| | The Irish Government Page 2 of 3 (1, 2, 3) | | Hi all, I have a question that some of you may be able to help me with. I have no opinion one way the other but this may help with a college paper I have to write. From what I understand of the politics N.I. Ireland all the sectarian issue basically started in the 17th century and progressed from there . It would seem to me that Ireland as a whole would want to unite after Margret Thatcher (for the most part) stated that G. Britain no longer wants too or holds any interest in N.I. In my view (which may be wrong) the Loyalist have been abandoned by the English. My question is; "why wouldn't the Loyalist want to unite with the R.O.I"? My intent is not to start "The Troubles" all over again and I understand this is a very complicated issue and I would like to hear from both sides of this issue from people living in Ireland. I don't want to start a debate I just to see the different views. If this is the wrong forum I apologize. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2012 5:04:56 AM | | The troubles started long before 17th Century you really have to look at Irish History from the Norman invasion and upwards from there.Ireland can't really afford to be part of the North now because of a current Economic problems in our country which we can't even afford to run at the moment. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2012 6:05:55 AM | | Hey biggles5000 thanks for the post. Best of luck to you and I will see if I can find a timeline of Irish history prior to the 17 century. Sadly, the current economics problems seem to be effecting every nation on the globe right now........... | |
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Posted: 3/30/2012 1:18:11 AM | | Right who is going to pay the household tax 100 euros i heard 85% of the population havent paid it already i don't have to pay it cause i'm renting but my landlord is putting the rent up to cover the charge.Are yo going to pay what do people think? | |
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Posted: 3/31/2012 4:31:42 AM | | I also rent, but if my Landlord even attempts to put up my rent to cover the Household Charge, then I will give him my notice and get somewhere else to rent, where I live there are plenty of other places on the DAFT website that landlords have had empty for months and will not only be willing to rent, but negotiate down the price as well. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2012 5:27:37 PM | | In response. Human nature has been the downfall of this great country for centuries. Hasn't this country always stood by and watched the fall? My family immigrated from Ireland years ago yet always spoke of the same plight. Yes, this is a golobal event, The gov't wants others to believe the lies (they always have) there most likely isn't any debt other than what has been lied about for too many years. When will Ireland respectfully stand up intellectually? Respectfully yours. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2012 3:10:03 PM | I wont be paying either the household charge, water charges or any fines associated with either...
Our government insists the revenue generated will go to local services while they have slashed 170 million from the LGMA budget to pay back unsecured bondholders.
In the minutes of the Jan. 30th monthly meeting of my local council the treasurer states that monies collected will not go into the LGMA fund, so where is it going to go?
Since 1977 and the abolition of rates 7.5% of all road tax has been kept by the councils to pay for water services and now the government are attempting to what amounts as double taxation and have plans in the pipeline to charge home owners 300 euro to install a smart meter. | |
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Posted: 4/17/2012 4:03:54 AM | | so what do people think on there new idea introducen a tax the water we use. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2012 12:01:43 PM | I think that it will be the final straw for a lot of hard up people, you can forget about peaceful protests when the supposed Leader of this country starts issuing threats of disconnection before informing us how much we will be charged.
Either way it won't happen, people aren't going to pay and these meters located outside our houses are going to be smashed to bits. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2012 3:43:20 PM | I agree, it will push a lot of people over the edge, especially as the 100 house hold charge will go up as well next year for most house holders and like most taxes they will simply go up and up. It will also have a knock on effect on an all ready depressed housing market, as all these extra costs will have to be factored into the running of any house hold, and I bet the banks will make provision for it when calculating any mortgage, making it even harder for people to buy a house.
Everything this and the previous Government has done has had a disastrous effect on Irish society as a whole, we are back to the bad old increasing taxation, mass emigration, increasing poverty, wholly arrogant politicians who stride around like lords of the manner, issue edicts and expecting that the people will not only suffer in total silence, but be grateful for it too.
But, the people of this country can not go without blame either, scandal after scandal about politicians taking backhanders for the last 25 years, and people still voted for them, still would not hear a bad word said, the "sure, he is one of us," mentality prevailed, people knew that the leaders of the country were on a gravy train, milking the system for all it was worth, AND STILL PEOPLE VOTED FOR THEM!!! It was only when the entire country was driven to the edge of economic oblivion that people woke up, and then what happens, they vote in FG as our rulers, the wishey washy FF wanabees.
May what ever GOD you believe in have mercy on us all, cos our Government sure as hell won't. | |
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Posted: 4/19/2012 4:18:17 PM | "But, the people of this country can not go without blame either, scandal after scandal about politicians taking backhanders for the last 25 years, and people still voted for them, still would not hear a bad word said, the "sure, he is one of us," mentality prevailed, people knew that the leaders of the country were on a gravy train, milking the system for all it was worth, AND STILL PEOPLE VOTED FOR THEM!!! It was only when the entire country was driven to the edge of economic oblivion that people woke up, and then what happens, they vote in FG as our rulers, the wishey washy FF wanabees."
I agree with you 100%, between parish pump politics and traditional voters the electorate is far from blameless in the mess we are facing.
For far too long the Irish have preferred to moan from their bar stools and over the neighbours fence instead of taking to the streets to register their discontent, government ministers, TD's, local councillors have had it far too easy secure in the knowledge that they can still walk down the street in peace. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2012 12:40:32 AM | | Good point there lads i think were a very mellow race of people when you consider what has happend in France,England,Greece they just ripped the place apart here.I think it was disgusting to see those two old people been evicted from there house the other day it looks like the gardai are new SS the way they carry on,i know they have a job to do but in fairness there gone a disgrace.i think we call massive strikes and hold massive marches i wonder then will they listen. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2012 4:34:37 PM | Will they listen?...........most likely not, they got slammed on the household charge despite their threats and a few weeks later we have Enda and Co. threatening people with disconnection for non payment of water charges and a metering system that is years from being rolled out.
The only people this government are listening to are the private banks. | |
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Posted: 4/21/2012 6:50:42 AM | | I still think that its funny that no one as been actually jailed yet for the corruption that was caused even in the last Government it like when they started looking into Bertie Ahern affairs.I wonder will Brian Cowen or Enda Kenny will ever face charges of corruption probably not it be swept under the carpet or made a mockery out of like it always is,the rich seem to be getting richer and poor are getting poorer the sadest thing is that this country well never be sorted out not from years to come anyway 1000 are forced to leave Ireland to look for work you think Kenny would of seen this back when he was younger and probably would try to prevent it from happening again he's not even trying to bring any companies from overseas to invest it took Bill Clinton former American President to bring the subject up at an early meeting which is shamefull and a disgrace it just goes to show how lazy this Government really is .I don't think he will serve another term but who will be good enough to replace him and can the problem be sorted out? | |
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Posted: 4/23/2012 6:32:24 PM | Jailed for corruption?
Jesus christ the shower we have in power at the moment despite all their spin about new policies on political donations corruption, accountability ect. are pushing for a yes on the fiscal compact.
Voting yes among other things would mean that you agree tothe text of article 27 of the treaty.
ARTICLE 27: Legal Status, Privileges and Immunities.
2. The ESM shall have full legal capacity to institute legal proceedings.
3. The ESM, it's property, funding and assets shall enjoy every sort of immunity from every sort of judicial process.
We should be more worried about the consequences of ratifying the fiscal compact which is permanent rather than a government that can be replaced after 1 term or before should our president and TD'S call for a council of state. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2012 3:42:36 AM | ^ you forgot to blame the Martians and the Unicorns......
Or perhaps Santa is in cahoots with the Chicken in the Sea?
Seek help! | |
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Posted: 4/29/2012 9:11:33 AM | O well in that case I humbly apologise, I sometimes get you guys confused with the space cadets in government.
Back on topic, I see the emergence of the fascist state is going as planned with the army now flying above spying on our citizens for the blueshirts. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2012 1:34:02 PM | | Bryanvall, with those opinions you make Anders Breivik look like a philanthropist! | |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 2:58:23 PM | | What do you think of kenny new statement say that ireland has to balance the books.i think its going to get worst hes going to hit the poor again as always. | |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 4:03:47 PM | Kenny makes lots of statements, most of them are either pure lies or what the money tell him to say...the man is nothing more than an EU quisling.
The books do need to be balanced, that's obvious enough but as long as we have a government that is spineless the same pattern of taxation and public service slashing will continue.
Kenny and Co. wont burn the bondholders, wont rip up the CPA, wont play hardball with EU IMF,.
Kenny and Co. will sell our state assets and natural resources from under our feet, impose taxes dictated by the EU IMF, continue to ignore the idea of any sort of wealth tax , hand over complete control of our finances to a private organisation that cant even be held accountable.
The books need to be balanced but fairly and by a government who's primary concern is the Irish people not the Eurozone. | |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 4:15:47 PM | | I hope you are attempting some form of satire and that rabble mess isnt your "informed" opinion @ bryanwall | |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 4:44:12 PM | | Yes I agree it is scripted. The conglomerates rule the world and spiel propaganda through their news outlets to the easily brain washed masses. People should read more about facts online not in newspapers and learning about history wouldn't hurt either. | |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 5:06:42 PM | | I am one of the few from USA who managed to leave before doomsday. For many of the reasons you have stated pj 121 what I am having difficulty with, on this site, is that I spelled out in detail what has occurred in the USA starting with the Reagan Administration and I can not find it anymore. It appears that it was removed. So let me leave you with this thought. Poor quality in education over a protracted period of time,decades, disrespect of friends & family on sitcom television but, make it seem humorous. Send all manufacturing to third world countries with the ridiculous notion that it is an attempt to raise the standard of living around the world. When it is only the conglomerates who actually make much more. Control of mass media, tell you what they want you to believe. Less middle class jobs in strongest countries. No time to spend with family or the elderly who can provide wisdom for our youth. what do you have divide and conquer or a better world?I could expand with facts but, I am afraid this too may be removed so I will say that one should do the research then maybe the average person will wake up and put forth real leaders who are truly interested in the welfare of the common man or should I say society at large. | |
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