| | Rap Music and White MenPage 3 of 4 (1, 2, 3, 4) | | Just to clarify, just because I like hip hop and dislike metal and most country doesn’t mean I prefer black men over white, yellow, green and blue. That said, I cannot see myself with a Harley Davidson guy or Scottish man who dresses in a skirt... but of course there will be a special connection with someone who can appreciate the music that moves me regardless of his ethnicity. :) | |
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Posted: 1/1/2012 9:23:19 PM | | White guy here. I don't like rap either. But that doesn't make me a bigot and anyone who says that it does is clearly a bigot themself and trying to force their views on me. I have every right to dislike the attitude of rap and hip hop. I don't relate to it and I find it offensive as well as degenerative. I think we put except rap on our profiles because we are looking for a woman who doesn't want to listen to rap while driving in the car because it would completely annoy the hell out of us. It is our perogative there missy and you getting on here and ranting and accusing us of being racist is quite a stretch. It really pisses me off actually since I thought it was a free country. Rap and Hip hop does just fine without me and I am looking for a woman of integrity and who has the courage to stand up for herself against people who force rap and hip hop down our throats. I think it's funny that people think that because they listen to hip hop it means that they are hip haha. I see it as immature, degrading to mankind, and waste of good beats. If you want to listen to rap, understand what you're supporting. It's not a matter of race. (eminem, classified, and more). It's a matter of morals and standards. You might think you're cool, but that doesn't mean I have to think you're cool for listening and supporting the rap movement. I hate what it represents. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2012 11:28:32 AM | Wowww!!!! Really???? The OP, IMO, just might be more ignorant than racism itself.
So, because I don't care for rap, this makes me a racist??? Interesting logic. If I didn't like meat would this make me a vegetarian? Not necessarily.
This might be difficult to comprehend, but I strongly believe in an inner harmonic of the soul. Different types of music resonate differently within to determine what we enjoy listening to and what we don't. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it. What's next? If I told you I like a group comprised of a man from Ecuador and a man from Iran would you label me a drug trafficking Muslim extremist?
Lyrics to most songs convey a feeling or send a message. Many don't even listen to the words as they are captivated by the beat. If you do hear the words, then I think you have to agree with the message they send. I used to listen to hardcore punk in the 70's and 80's. Most of it is rebellious, anti-establishment, dark, suicidal noise. I like some rap, some, I feel, just sends the wrong message. Yes, I include country in my dislikes, as well. Why?, because most of it is "I got wronged," "poor me," and depressing. I like to be inspired, uplifted and moved by music, not feel worse.
Creating a wider gap between people just because of their taste in music or likes and dislikes that are different than someone else's is just plain worthless. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2012 2:05:44 AM |
In this GI's opinion, if you do not like rap its because you are listening to mainstream garbage like Lil' Wayne and his ilk. I defy any one to not like Eyedea and Abilities, Sage Francis, Atmosphere, and Immortal Technique.
Not to mention Aesop Rock, EL-P, Yak Ballz, Rob Sonic, Brother Ali, Cage, and about a hundred others. People are F'ing ignorant. Hip hop is FAR deeper than the six retarded artists on the top of the charts. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 6:24:27 AM | Rap isn't really a genre - despite what iTunes says - its a style. E.g. Hip Hop, UK Grime, Bashment etc are all genres that use Rap as a style.
But I agree with the general consensus - you shouldn't label someone as racist just because they dislike a style of music that is considered 'black'. In order for it to become racist they would have to specifically state they dislike ALL forms of music associated with black people JUST because the people involved are black. Otherwise maybe the OP needs to just relax, accept that people have different opinions on music and move on  | |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 9:40:18 AM | "ALL forms of music associated with black people..."
And that would be.... Blues, anything with syncopation, roots, rock and roll, soul, Mo-town, that really cool stuff the Zulus do - check this out.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBs1W5Zbk8Y, reggae, gospel...
If it weren't for the African influence, white music would still be ... I wouldn't say dull as there is nothing dull about Mozart, Boccharini, Vivaldi, Beethoven... but pretty much 4/4 time.... and oom pa pa...
So thank you, thank you very much....
As with the music of any era, most of it is crap. The same can be said of the music in Mozart's time. Yet in any era and any genre, there rises to the top some music that will define the style and become timeless and enrich our commonwealth of culture. The rest will be largely discarded as with Johann Strauss' younger brothers.
Right now, with rap being a newer kid on the block... it will continue to mature and find it's niche.. and prove itself.
So to the OP.... everyone is entitled to an opinion.. but that doesn't mean that everyone's opinion is entitled.
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Posted: 1/5/2012 3:27:25 PM | | I guess you have never heard of white rappeers. You using the phrase of racist because some white men do not like rap is racist in itself. I enjoy rap, blues, country, pop but I do not care much for jazz. Does this make me racist. I don't think so. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:33:55 PM | | As a black woman that loves heavy metal, I see it on both sides sometimes. I think people do, whether consciously or subconsciously, use it to state "This is not who I am". Like it or not, there is a stigma on what "type" of person likes rap. Yes, I know it's a universal thing, and everyone around the world loves rap now, but I know that when other people see that a white guy or girl is into rap, they sometimes think that they are "trying to be black". I get it as well because I am openly admitting that heavy metal is the main type of music that I listen to. This doesn't mean that I'm "trying to be white", or that I won't date black guys, but other people may take it that way. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2012 11:43:04 PM | | It's not racism at all for me. It speaks about nothing I can relate to or care about. It actually seems to all be about everything I'm entirely against =D The entire mindset is horrible. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2012 11:16:57 AM | REPOST
Back to the OP, I know what you're saying.... I hear ya...
She's not saying EVERYONE who says they don't like rap is racist, people...
there are those who do, (they know who they are and they won't come on here and admit it so everyone will just attack the OP and say she's looking for racism and touchy, it's her problem) nothing new....
on the lookout for racism, Buahahahahah!!!... | |
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Posted: 2/17/2012 6:32:20 AM | | Resurrecting this, I think I understand what the OP was trying to say and I have to agree. I see many, many profiles where waspy 40-60 men single out this particular type of music just so they can get something off their chests, like "Rap is C-rap". There is no need for the negativity. How many women in their demographic are hard-core rap fans anyway? | |
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Posted: 2/17/2012 7:13:54 AM | "How many women in their demographic are hard core rap fans anyway?"
Well, in mine, quite a few actually. I also used to include not liking country music because I, now, live in the South and it's like a 'second language.'
I have no problem with almost any type of music. Many of our greatest artists and songwriters and forms of music have black roots, yet, it's not an issue of black and white, per se..........
Who knows, maybe since I am a 'waspy,' mid-forties guy from the suburbs, I have not had the proper exposure to all forms of the genre, but in all honesty, this is my opinion:
It's not the genre nor the music. It's not a 'black' vs. 'white' thing. What it is, is the type of message great deal of it conveys; degradation and poor treatment of women, drug use, prostitution, gang violence and the like.
I think music is an important art form. It brings people together. Makes us feel. Rap, I think, is the one of the few, if not only, genres that divides and creates more harm than it heals.
How many 'white,' 'waspy,' singers, songwriters, artists do you know who have been gunned down? (other than John Lennon) | |
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Posted: 2/17/2012 8:00:53 AM | Ok, if we have now established that all waspy 40-60 y.o. men from the suburbs hate rap, why bother putting that in your profiles? Can it not just be a given?
What I don't like is autotune. | |
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Posted: 2/17/2012 5:35:39 PM |
Ok, if we have now established that all waspy 40-60 y.o. men from the suburbs hate rap, why bother putting that in your profiles? Can it not just be a given?
What I don't like is autotune.
Way to generalize!
It absolutely blows my mind that you would sit there, in front of your computer and pick out the demographic that is guilty of racism...
Seriously... do you own a mirror????
Go look in it. You will see a hypocrite.
:D
have a nice day | |
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Posted: 3/6/2012 7:48:56 AM | | I think there might be a prejudicial element because they could simply state the music they like and what they listen to without the addition of ....except rap. Funny thing is if you give most music a chance you will probably like it. You may not like all of it but you will find some you like. E.g, I can listen to Ramstein but dont care for marilyn manson's type of rock. | |
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Posted: 3/6/2012 8:56:47 AM | I've seen the same with women saying everything "except Rap". Not liking a genre of music doesn't mean that person is racist.
I don't like Country music (except Johnny Cash), so does that mean i don't like white men or women in the 18 to 65 age group who live in rural areas?  I don't think so. I don't have anything against Gregorian monks, but that doesn't mean i enjoy listening to Gregorian chants. I do like some Rap, older stuff like N.W.A. and Public Enemy. Since i only like some Rap, according to the OP would that make me partially racist?
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Posted: 5/24/2012 9:50:29 PM | It isn't racism. Musical choices can lead to polarizing discussions. I don't like Rap/hip hop/ dance/ because it grates on my nerves. Simplistic, purely electronic, and rarely original song structures that are usually based on a 10 second riff, with lyrics that do not move me in any way. People that like that music would have a laundry list of negatives about my music. Who is right? Who is wrong?
It is an important thing to get in the open. Try living with someone that absolutely hates all your music and vice versa. It gets old real quick. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2012 10:35:19 AM | Best stay at HoJo
Playin ya radio
Eat'n a HoHo
Dance'n AuGoGo
Lookin to cast playa's for a Polka Square Dance Opera entitled
Reggae Rocks | |
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Posted: 5/29/2012 1:53:00 PM | I like some Rap.. mostly older rap from when I was younger that was more like Party music .. I have a buddy that listens to Immortal Technique and while I really enjoy the music itself, and his rapping skills - I feel like an ass when I listen to it, because I had a pretty good life, childhood, and currently a good career and place to live - and he's going on and on about these atrocities... it makes me feel like what he's rapping about is my fault.
But otherwise I just don't really listen to most new rap because I've been a guitar player for 20 years, and there's not much guitar to be found in it (though there is some). I love just about any other kind of music - folk, jazz, death metal, rock, alternative, you name it. And Rap is great, for what it is, but it doesn't take long for me to tire of just the beats and samples, and want to listen to something with some guitar in it. (Other than bass)
Whatever moves you, and resonates in your heart - shouldn't matter what others think. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2012 11:08:00 AM | It could be racism or it simply could be that it is a rather in yer face style. It might be that white people that have said they don't like rap have been called racist or they have felt that assumption has been silently made of them and they are saying it as if they are saying 'I'm not backing down to these assummptions' That's just a stab at it if it is not because they are racist.
It could be that there is not a type of music that is particuarly known as 'white music' like Rap is rightly or wrongly known as 'black music' and some white people might feel that their identity is not allowed to be expressed due to overuse of political correctnesss and the use of Rap as a vehicle to promote political correctnesss and a more diverse society.
I have heard people say Rap is is immature (that thought might/might not be racially motivated). So maybe the men are saying 'I am too mature for that'. They might not think to say the same of other music younger people tend to listen to that does not appear to be so in yer face.
Rap can often be found as annoying because of the talky style rather than singy style.
I quite like some rap (though I'm not a fan) but I do find a lot of it sounds annoying (I have sensory intergration disorder). I often (not always) find it annoying when you have song with a beautiful melody and singer (that is often black) with a beautiful voice and then you get some rapper come in suddenly with a whiney voice, whatever the raper's race.
It could also be, perhaps, that some men do say 'exept, Opera' 'exept, County and Western' but that is not noticed by the same people that notice 'exept rap' when reading profiles as it is not considered to be racist not to like it. I see quite a lot of men saying they don't like Opera. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2012 4:19:48 PM | | You ARE aware that black people make music other than rap, right OP? | |
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Posted: 5/30/2012 7:51:01 PM | Hrm... I think I'm going to go with many of the posts here saying you might be looking for racism. It is certainly interesting that you have noticed this "except rap" trend on male Caucasian profiles, but real world experience no doubt lets you know that non-white people can also dislike rap. I mean, I don't particularly enjoy country music, but that doesn't make me a racist. I am curious, however, why these men have to explicitly say they don't like rap.
Perhaps they are simply trying to find a woman with similar dislikes instead of just likes. I know if I say "I really don't like bagpipes", the chances of someone saying "OMG I DISLIKE BAGPIPES TOO!" is rare. If anything the response would be "really? I don't really think I've listened to bagpipes...." Whereas with rap, if you say you dislike it, the chances of someone saying they also dislike it is much, much higher - simply because of the presence rap has. This applies to disliking any of the other major genres of music.
Don't stress yourself out over it. If anything, ask them why they dislike it (if that is what is turning you off bout them) and see how they respond. If they can't respond why, then maybe you can accuse them of simply being ignorant. But if they present a fair argument, which is very possible, let them think what they think and like what they like. | |
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