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Tah,
| | Joined: 11/18/2008
Msg: 26 | |
| | Coal Seam GasPage 2 of 2 (1, 2) | Imagine a christian nutter who looked up to jesus as our savior and who could perform miracles like being able to turn water into wine .
here you have the miracle taken even further with water turned into fire....
food for thought or should i say water for flame grilling? | |
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Posted: 2/27/2012 7:00:29 PM | Was chatting to my Dad yesterday. My Dad is not a greenie by any stretch of the imagination and has no idea how my brother and I ended up being such tree-huggers (I tell him you can aaaalways blame the parents). But based on what he’s read, he is definitely against coal seam gas mining…too many uncertainties, and the cost will be high in the long run if the powers that be are getting it wrong. He definitely agrees that it should be stopped until they have the facts, which right now, they clearly don’t, except for the negatives which they are choosing to ignore. One of my step-brothers (nice bloke) has taken a job in coal seam gas mining. It was actually reading that on step-brother’s facebook that inspired me to start this thread in the first place. Anyway… when I was chatting to Dad yesterday, he admitted that he’d been the one to encourage him to take the job. He laughed when I went Grrrrr…he expected it. 
I said, ‘aren’t (step-brother) and (partner) planning on having kids…and don’t they worry about what future they are ensuring for those kids’. He said, ‘well, it’s a matter of money and it was a good decision for the two of them’. And I said, ‘yeah but they make money now, at the cost of their own children…how do they reconcile that’. And he said,’ well it won’t be (step-brother’s) fault…it’s the authorities who are responsible for ensuring they are getting it right’. …I know life can entail making some lesser of two evils choices at times, and I still think my step-brother is a nice bloke, but is it really “not our (collective) responsibility”? We’re not slaves, or drones…we’re not oppressed, starving or ignorant…we are not deprived of information. Do we have to help mining companies fukc up our water?
Next family gathering should be fun.  | |
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Tah,
| | Joined: 11/18/2008
Msg: 28 | |
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Posted: 2/27/2012 7:27:20 PM | how do they reconcile that’
They build a pipeline from ord river or a desal plant and they add more chemicals to the soil to make shit grow again then they hold more cancer fundraisers for the make a wish foundation as these choices ruthlessly come out in our kids health like a pimple does when we eat chocolate...
and so the cycle goes.... | |
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Posted: 3/14/2012 10:18:29 PM | Had two students in my class this week who live out west. They were telling me about the destruction being caused to their local area by the coal seam gas companies...kilometers of wide stretches of tree clearing...pollution....bore water supplies being ruined ...land that is currently used to grow us food, now going to be ravaged for gas. They said these companies just come in and start dictating...and that the whole thing is going to completely kill their communities.
They also told me that there have been major stuff-ups...pipes that were put in, then dug up (twice) because they were faulty and then had to be sent back to China to be re-manufactured. Not just a few...but many many kilometres of these huge pipes. Apparently they would have exploded with the pressure...lucky they realised sooner rather than later I guess. But like they said...this has put the companies behind schedule, and they already have contractual commitments to o/s buyers they have to meet. So who knows what shortcuts might prove necessary so they can meet schedule.
And apparently these companies plan to go for the coal once they have the gas...they have plans for the next 40 years or something, to mine the beejezus out of some of our prime food growing areas.
Funny thing...they said that for the first time ever, the views of people in their area are more aligned with The Greens than with any of the other political parties who supposedly have the interests of farmers in mind. | |
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Posted: 3/15/2012 5:49:25 PM | Just read this and thought I'd share...regarding where politicians stand in relation to coal seam gas. Looks like the two major parties are under complete control of the mining companies, and it's only the Greens who agree with the 68% of Australians who want to hold off until we know it's safe.
Both the Government and the Coalition have chosen to stay in the dark about the real impacts of coal seam gas mining in Australia, by today voting down the Greens' proposal for the first nation-wide coal seam gas Senate inquiry.
The refusal to support widespread community concern about the impacts of CSG after today's public revelations that Bob Katter, now a vocal opponent of coal seam gas, in fact vetoed giving farmers any right to say no to mining on their land when he was Queensland Mines Minister in 1989.
"This inquiry would have looked at the big picture of coal seam gas across Australia: what CSG mining is doing to our communities, our health, our economy and our coasts, as well as our land and environment," Greens' mining spokesperson Senator Larissa Waters said.
"What does it say about the old parties that they don't want to know? Don't they want the facts on the true climate impacts of CSG? Or the real picture of what's happening in Gladstone harbour for coal seam gas exports?
"While Bob Katter and his party have said they support farmers in their fight against CSG, only the Greens have taken any action on CSG in the Federal Parliament - and it was Katter himself who refused to give back farmers' rights against mining when he had the chance.
"Likewise Senator Barnaby Joyce today again demonstrated that the Nationals have sold out the bush on CSG, and even tried to gild the lily by making out that this inquiry was repetitive of the last CSG inquiry. Any cursory read of the terms of reference shows it is nation-wide and would include coastal impacts which the last inquiry did not consider.
"The Government has rushed blindly ahead with the new fossil fuel industry, even though the CSIRO and the National Water Commission have both said that we don't yet know the long-term impacts of coal seam gas on groundwater resources.
"The Government and Coalition are also trying to ignore the outpouring of community concern about CSG - a Newspoll showed 67 per cent of Queenslanders don't support coal seam gas, echoing a similar poll last year that 68 per cent Australians want to press pause on CSG until it's been proven safe.
"The only choice in the Queensland election is Green for anyone who wants to slow down this runaway industry, given that the old parties have chosen to support the fossil fuel giants over Australian communities and Bob Katter has been revealed as all talk and no action."
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