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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/17/2012 12:15:00 AM | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPT1YdN9tKA&list=HL1331968272&feature=mh_lolz
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NO such thing as too many push ups....but you should supplement your diet..... | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/17/2012 4:20:51 AM | | If you're trying to bulk up, then too-many is bad :) No offence intended, but the male physique reacts quicker and stronger to variance in muscle types than the female body does. Some things that don't matter that much to a woman can make a big difference to a man. | |
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Posted: 3/17/2012 9:40:38 AM | | i do way more than just pushups. but the pushup amount i do is wayyyyyyyyy dis proportionate to the rest of my workout. they are so easy anymore...when i 1st strated this thread i was doin 400 a day but decided to cut back to 300. now i barely feel the 300 and am considering going back up | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/17/2012 10:12:40 AM | If you continue to to repeat exercises every day then you really arn't going to get a full body workout, you are not giving the chest and triceps a rest, muscles grow with nutrition and rest, I would look to get yourself a good split routine were you train a large and a small body part each session, no more than 4 sessions a week, this will allow thew body time to rest and recover with good nutrition.
An example of one session would be chest and biceps with about 15 sets for chest and 9 for biceps, the next day you could train quads and hamstrings resting you upper body, then shoulders triceps, and lastly back and calves putting a rest day inbetween or just having the weekend off would I feel give you better results.
You obviously have decent genetics, I dont know about the 245lbs but I would rather stay the same weight but change your body composition, lowering your %fat and obviously then gaining in muscle, I hope this helps.... | |
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Posted: 3/17/2012 10:54:13 AM | If one has no joint issues, I doubt if there are 'too many' push ups. My girlfriend weighs about 115lbs and sometimes for fun she'll lay on my back and I'll do 3 or 4. (no jokes, yes know the girlfriend is usually 'under'.) A push up is far from max stress on a shoulder...it's like being able to bench press 225lbs but only doing 125lbs.
Anyways, I do my final set to failure and have done this for decades. Zero joint issues. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/17/2012 7:54:07 PM |
i do way more than just pushups. but the pushup amount i do is wayyyyyyyyy dis proportionate to the rest of my workout. they are so easy anymore...when i 1st strated this thread i was doin 400 a day but decided to cut back to 300. now i barely feel the 300 and am considering going back up
Something I do on a regular basis for pecs are ring flyes and presses.Supersetting flyes then presses is intense.Easy on the shoulders.Feet on a platform at the same height as hands,or lower or higher if you prefer. | |
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Posted: 3/22/2012 2:38:38 PM | Where did this myth come from that you can't put on muscle from body weight, and things of this nature? Thats pretty much all I do is calisthenics, sprinting, explosive exercises, yoga.. things of this nature(and I am 220 lbs). the only unnatural aspect to my fitness is the kettle bell, and even this ancient tool is ergonomic, and natural to the movements of the human body.. the key lies in your diet, and self discipline.
Of course, this is what my body responds to the best, I am a firm believer in individual fitness regimens, instead of conforming to what everyone else is doing. Instead of approaching fitness as building yourself, and trying to create something out of thin air, cut away the excess.. find out what your body responds to.. utilize those tools, and throw away what doesn't. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/22/2012 3:10:32 PM |
Where did this myth come from that you can't put on muscle from body weight, and things of this nature?
People trying to sell stuff, specifically related towards putting on muscle. | |
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Posted: 3/22/2012 3:34:02 PM | | We all lift the majority of our body weight with our legs every day...that's over 100lbs - 150lbs+ for most of us with each step we take. Why don't we all have legs like tree trunks? Maybe it's not a myth after all ;) | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/22/2012 3:56:51 PM |
Why don't we all have legs like tree trunks? Maybe it's not a myth after all ;)
Or maybe it is because are bodies will not grow beyond what is needed.
So if you want bigger legs and you are not to find a time machine to go back and preselect your ancestors, then grab a back pack and put 50lbs in it and carry it everywhere you go.
Report back in one year. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/22/2012 3:59:54 PM | Aristotle_Amadopolis
Or maybe it is because are bodies will not grow beyond what is needed
Exactly! If you're "benching" a fraction of your body weight by doing push-ups, and your weight remains fairly constant (don't bother telling me it'll increase due to you doing the push-ups, I'm not talking about grams) then why would your chest muscles develop beyond what is needed? To do 1000 push-ups vs 10 push-ups does not need bigger, stronger muscles, it needs more efficient muscles that can process the lactic acid better, and doing push-ups will develop that type of muscle.
Your heart beats every second for its entire life and doesn't grow (it's a very special muscle, but it's like the muscle you'll get from push-ups only much more extreme). | |
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Posted: 3/22/2012 4:13:13 PM | Exactly! If you're "benching" a fraction of your body weight by doing push-ups, and your weight remains fairly constant (don't bother telling me it'll increase due to you doing the push-ups, I'm not talking about grams) then why would your chest muscles develop beyond what is needed?
well for one, when you are doing a push up you are lifting about 98% of your body weight and done with feet on top of exercise ball with hands on the bar in the smith station is a lot more challenging to your whole body than doing some bench.
The main reason why it does not matter is because you are still doing it to failure.
What is important to understand is your body is adaptive, so when you ask it to do something that is can't and you keep trying, it is adapt to be better at doing what you are asking it.
A If you ask it to bench 400lbs and if it is genetically possible for you, your body will adapt and it will happen.
B If you ask it to do 400 push-ups and if it is genetically compatible for you, your body will adapt and it will happen.
The types of muscle fibers you have stimulated will be different ones, and the fast twitch ones that you stress doing the bench will be a bit larger than the slow twitch one you would have stimulated doing the push ups.
So regardless what you do, as long as you do it to failure your body will change.
Getting bigger is not better, it is only getting bigger, and with getting bigger comes with its disadvantages. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/22/2012 4:17:26 PM | | You're not getting "bigger" though, that's what we're discussing - reps are not a substitute for resistance. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/22/2012 6:55:58 PM |
You're not getting "bigger" though, that's what we're discussing - reps are not a substitute for resistance.
I did a lot of pushups from an early age,high reps do lead to a good quality of muscle,but some heavier,or max effort movements certainly will add size.For lower body power weights will speed the transformation.Some people of course overdo it and become the walking wounded.Just look at a gymnast....bodyweight with some velocity.... | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/23/2012 12:17:29 PM | didnt read through it all, but yes they can be. now pull ups, can never do too many imho
constant pushups will give you bad posture and aggravate shoulders, sit ups are a waste of time as they only really work hip flexors. which isnt a terrible thing but they can cause more harm than good. i never do abs but would suggest crunches or ab wheel roll outs.
if your going to workout at home, purchase some iron woody bands or something similar and dont forget legs. high jumps or some sprints, as in running as fast as you can be great for your legs. just dont over do the high intensity | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/26/2012 8:22:22 PM | | in your case yes because you want to bulk up. you want to do 3-5 sets of 6-10 reps with as heavy weights as you can manage. These types of exercises will add muscle mass. Right now your basically building yourself for endurance. A little cardio is ok to get your heart rate up but don't be riding that bike till your legs fall off! Take out the 100 dips as well. Search online and you will find people can gain about 1 lb of muscle per week so you could gain 15-20 lbs just won't be all muscle:P you have 2 months(depends when summer starts where you live, lol) and i am sure you could get some pretty decent gains by then. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/26/2012 8:54:03 PM |
constant pushups will give you bad posture and aggravate shoulders
I've done over 50 push ups a day for about 40 years...zero shoulder or posture issues. One isn't doing enough weight for problems. If you have this issue it is from something else.
Re legs...I'm a runner. I never work my legs with weights. Running will give most guys and gals all the muscle and tone they want in legs....expecially the calves. If someone wants even larger muscles in the upper legs then 'heavy' weights are needed. however, larger upper leg muscles aren't all that attractive to most people. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/27/2012 6:40:48 PM |
If someone wants even larger muscles in the upper legs then 'heavy' weights are needed. however, larger upper leg muscles aren't all that attractive to most people.
Bony knees are not attractive either. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/27/2012 10:24:20 PM | | Bony knees are bony regardless. The muscle around the knee can be firmed up with a running or moderate weight exercises. However, anyone doing weights to tone up those muscles should listen to their body and err on the side of caution. I have zero joint issues but I've known guys with a messed up knee and it puts a damper on their life. I live in what's perhaps the word's best downhill skiing area and I stopped skiing years ago because of friends wrecking their knees. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 3/30/2012 6:37:40 PM |
I live in what's perhaps the word's best downhill skiing area and I stopped skiing years ago because of friends wrecking their knees.
They wreck their knees because their quads are not strong enough.Steve Podborski from Canada could get 30 reps with 315 in the squat.At 165 lbs.Speedskaters as well are incredibly powerful in the squat.I stopped skiing after a dislocated shoulder. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 4/1/2012 10:59:31 AM | me_dl is exactly right. The OP's shoulder issues would likely improve drastically, and posibbly even disappear, within a year if he did more upper back work. Posterior-chain neglect is all too common amongst many of today's gym-goers.
Regarding the OP's original question: yes, I think you can add the muscle that you want to add by your goal date. I think a couple things in your programming need to change, though. You certainly have the volume taken care of, but I would cut down on exercise variety and increase intensity (resistance).
Remember, there are three things that can be accomplished with a training program: hypertrophy, strength and general conditioning. For optimal results, the focus can only be on one area at a time. If you try to get results in all three areas at the same time (or even just two), then all areas will suffer and results will be poor. Pick one area and stick with it for 3-4 months, then focus on a different area. If you want hypertrophy, you cannot train for PRs and maximal strength, and your conditioning has to drop off significantly. If you want strength, then you have to drop the volume and not overdo your conditioning. If you decide to improve your conditioning, then expect to lose a little bit of mass and see your strength level drop a little bit. That's the nature of the beast. | |
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| Can excessive pushups be bad
Posted: 4/5/2012 3:08:19 PM | Had the same thing happen to me... like I hit a wall, no progress.
You're 6'3" so 250 should be about right, even 270 probably fine. 6' myself and 225 is still thin.. depends on the individual. I'm back down to 175, but shredded. lol- my abs got abs.
I am a fan of explosive movement,and slow controlled stress.. now that you have the basic fitness, I'd go with explosive movements one day/ slow controlled the next
pushups w/ butterfly kicks on the upstroke(one leg at a time) fast
pushups w/ knee raises on the downstroke(one at a time -lol- knee in the armpit) slow
against a solid wall- put your hands on the wall at the up position(stay there) might want to start with hand claps - fast
alternate hand positions and "walk" all over the room. Add height to it when you get smooth- slow
Bodybuilders= 8 ct. great exercise
burpee=8ct. another
mountain climbers=2ct. till you puke on your puddle
diamonds=4ct. hands together in a diamond
dolphins=4ct. down, forward, back,up
pullups/dips are the best combination upperbody workout ever, period.
also have a huge variety of different variations(lol redundant?)
when my grandmomma was 94- she did diamond dolphins on the kitchen floor
try doing 4count p.u. down is 1, up is 2, down is 3, up is the rep count........ 4cts. will lower your 3-400 by half LOL
good luck and be safe, an injury will strip away progress fast. Tj | |
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