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 serious_one_wam
Joined: 4/30/2012
Msg: 15
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Oh Goldenmonkey :)

I'm just counting down til your post gets deleted. And mine...
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 16
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the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/10/2012 4:32:12 PM

the non caucasian button is racism

Racism is generally understood as either belief that different racial groups are characterized by intrinsic characteristics or abilities and that some such groups are therefore naturally superior to others or as practices that discriminate against members of particular racial groups, for example by perpetuating unequal access to resources between groups*

Ergo a search feature on a web site that give you the ability to filter other users by multiple categories can not be racist and this is a non issue other than for people that do not actually understand what racism is.


Under the advanced search I can do the same search by only selecting races that are not Caucasian, does that also make the advance search racist?




* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
 serious_one_wam
Joined: 4/30/2012
Msg: 17
the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/10/2012 4:41:45 PM
"Under the advanced search I can do the same search by only selecting races that are not Caucasian, does that also make the advance search racist?

Uhh, yeah. That's what racism is. By your own definition!

"discriminate against members of particular racial groups".

That's EXACTLY what the search feature does. Why don't people get this? I'm not saying that it's not ok to have the feature. Only that THIS IS RACIST.

Seriously... You don't see this?
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/10/2012 4:47:33 PM

Uhh, yeah. That's what racism is. By your own definition!

"discriminate against members of particular racial groups".

That's EXACTLY what the search feature does. Why don't people get this? I'm not saying that it's not ok to have the feature. Only that THIS IS RACIST.

Seriously... You don't see this?

So then they need to remove all features that let a user filter out other users based on but not limited to:

Height
Body Type
Eye Color
Hair Color
Age
Location
Sex
Smoke/s
Has kids
Does Drugs
etc.....


You do not seem to understand that someones preference is not racism, it is a preference and nothing more and a web site letting you filter accordingly is not racism, it is a search filter.
 serious_one_wam
Joined: 4/30/2012
Msg: 19
the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/10/2012 4:51:55 PM
If a preference discriminates against race... Then its racist. So yes, I do get it. But you don't seem to.

Again, I'm not saying its bad or wrong. Let people search for what they like. BUT ITS STILL RACIST. And your posted definition clearly spells that out.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/10/2012 5:12:34 PM

If a preference discriminates against race... Then its racist. So yes, I do get it. But you don't seem to.

It does not discriminate against any race, it is simply a selection tool.

If you fail to understand that, then you have failed to understand.
 serious_one_wam
Joined: 4/30/2012
Msg: 21
the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/10/2012 5:17:39 PM
So, "non-caucasian", is fine with you?

Where's the "no blacks" button. Oh wait, that would be racist.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/10/2012 6:34:12 PM

Presently, one can choose to exclude ONLY whites, but leave ALL the of other races intact in the search parameter ... there is NO equivalent feature to exclude only latinos from the search, or only Asians, or anyone else. Comprende so far?

100% wrong.

You can go to the advanced search and select as many or as few races as you want thus creating a search for all but any race you decide not to include in your search.

The other point is you are not selecting race you are selecting ethnicity.

So suggesting that a web site providing a search button for ethnicity and allowing users to eliminate or add said users for their search is not racist.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
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the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/10/2012 7:11:03 PM

Plenty of folks here get it. Please don't try to derail the issue at hand.

My apologizes for using common sense and rational thought, please continue to rant away about something that has zero importance in the world.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/10/2012 7:53:08 PM

Since it is so unimportant to you, this matter, how about you kindly get out of our thread, and let us get back to discussing this matter, without having a guy like you come in and try (unsuccessfully) to totally invalidate our grievance, which we just clearly spelled out here in numerous postings. (And, you are the ONLY one so far that doesn't get it.) The issue:

Sorry you do not get to decide who are who can not post on a thread.

As to the validity of your grievance, if you feel it is valid make an official complaint to the Human Rights Commission and see what they have to say about it.




As has been pointed out before, if this feature did the exact same thing, but with NON-African Americans as the option, there would be a HUGE outcry, and the feature would have been taken down promptly (and a swift apology would be issued to the upset community).

FYI: Coming up with erroneous theories to support your claim still makes them erroneous theories.
 rinnaye
Joined: 10/3/2010
Msg: 25
the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/10/2012 11:36:39 PM
The "NON Caucasian" Option is an Epic Fail.

How could this not be viewed, a form of race based discrimination? It's so clear, even Ray Charles could see it.

Though I've seen that option before, however, since it does not affect me/my race, then I guess I never realized the offensive nature of it, for others.

I reckon that's how racism goes. Until it happens to you, it is not apparent.
 femaleconnection
Joined: 8/12/2010
Msg: 26
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the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/11/2012 11:01:21 AM
If you are going to allow a search that eliminates one group of people, you should have the same option to eliminate any other group represented on pof.

I agree, that if it said 'only non black' or 'only non hispanic' there would be he ll to pay, but it is fine to say 'only non white?'

I think people should be allowed to search for what they personally prefer, but make the options the same across all ethnic groups, or face being called racist.
 romeostarr
Joined: 4/12/2009
Msg: 27
the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/11/2012 4:41:02 PM
I'm Black and I agree it's racist. If there is a Non Caucasian option then there should be a Non black, non Asian, Non Hispanic option. ect ect.
 romeostarr
Joined: 4/12/2009
Msg: 28
the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/11/2012 4:52:18 PM
We should also be able to weed out those people who don't find us desirable. For example, I'm black so when I do a search I should be able to choose by Ethnicity and the search should also eliminate those who don't like black people. like an "open minded" option Or an "ethnicity doesn't matter to me option." That way people can be more subtle and discreet about their racism, Instead of having to read profiles where someone rants about how much they hate a particular race.
 GoldieLox0818
Joined: 4/10/2009
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the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/11/2012 10:08:41 PM
White is the color of snow
 plentyofscoobysnacks
Joined: 12/29/2011
Msg: 30
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the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/15/2012 4:59:04 PM
the topic maker is absolutely correct.

All the people saying "i dont care" or "what does it matter?" are missing the point.

Your entitled to not care at a personal level but that doesn't stop the feature being very out dated. Im not going to lose any sleep over it myself either but the fact remains that its 2012, had this feature been exclusive to ANY OTHER race other than Caucasian then it would be deemed racist. This is a fact and it is wrong.

Racism is racism.
 internetdatinglol
Joined: 5/17/2007
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the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/15/2012 7:45:46 PM
It's somewhere on the fuzzy border between discrimination and outright racism. In any case it should be rectified.
 acsmith72
Joined: 12/3/2011
Msg: 32
the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/17/2012 12:07:58 AM
I didn't even notice that until I read this post. It is stupid, but what if it's meant to select non-Caucasian Hispanics? Then it makes perfect sense as there is such a thing as Caucasian Hispanics.
 acsmith72
Joined: 12/3/2011
Msg: 33
the non caucasian button is racism
Posted: 5/17/2012 8:47:51 PM
Maybe the owners are Black or Hispanic and just don't like Whites and wanted that option. It's not like it's limiting anyone in any way on here.




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