then take the top 100 people running and lynch them at 40 mile intervals on route 95, between NYC and Washington so all can see what will happen to people like them...

This has turned into a great thread. Why?
Because for ONCE, thoughtful people have let their guards down enough to acknowledge
that our problems are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond the right/left paradigm

Hahahahahaha I really almost agree with you. YOu sounded soooo republican there.

Often they cut to the bone and keep the fat. The Director of Pens, Pencils, Office parties and Stationary stays and the engineers and floor workers have to go.

To my pal with the birds, pigeons..I'm sure you are trying to make a point.

IMHO what is needed is a worldwide standard on how and what constitutes fair trade, workplace conditions, environmental laws etc... 'In short, if you want our business, want our factories, want to make our products, and then expect us to buy them you'll adhere to the laws of our country, the USA.

I always found him a complete hypocrite.

Modern capitalism requires government. And a pretty damn big and sophisticated government at that. There's no government in Somalia - that should be a capitalist paradise. Without government complete with a legal system and agents to enforce the laws, capitalism fails. And nobody is advocating communism

And you live in a democracy buddy. I know the radical extremists always try to deny it, but you do.

Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order. This movement, in its Marxist-Leninist interpretations, significantly influenced the history of the 20th century, which saw intense rivalry between the "socialist world" (socialist states ruled by Communist parties) and the "western world" (countries with market economies), culminating in the Cold War between the Eastern bloc and the "Free World".[citation needed]

In Marxist theory, pure communism is a specific stage of historical development that inevitably emerges from the development of the productive forces that leads to a superabundance of material wealth, allowing for distribution based on need and social relations based on freely associated individuals.[1][2] The exact definition of communism varies, and it is often mistakenly, in general political discourse, used interchangeably with socialism; however, Marxist theory contends that socialism is just a transitional stage on the road to communism. Leninism adds to Marxism the notion of a vanguard party to lead the proletarian revolution and to secure all political power after the revolution for the working class, for the development of universal class consciousness and worker participation, in a transitional stage between capitalism and socialism.

In capitalism, private ownership is key. You own your capital, your property, and the profits you generate with it all. If you're more productive, produce quality goods, you can charge more, as long as people are willing to pay for it. Becoming your best is rewarded in the profits you can generate, everyone (or most) want to be better than the next guy because of competition for profits and rewards. Most don't try to just survive, they strive to achieve their best!

The government! They set prices and assign homes and so on to who they believe needs them the most. Everyone is suppose to work for the benefit of their fellow countrymen. Anyone see a problem with this?

WalMart's threats to close their store IF city council allowed a COMPETITOR to build in town, won out and the Meijers Store was history. While we could easily blame this one the short sightedness and corruption of "government", HOW do you rationally justify this as "competition"?

BUT they were duped into believing this by a financial industry willing to exploit their ignorance.

WalMart's threats to close their store IF city council allowed a COMPETITOR to build in town, won out and the Meijers Store was history. While we could easily blame this one the short sightedness and corruption of "government", HOW do you rationally justify this as "competition"? Is not "competition" the BASIS for a capitalist economy? If so, they WHY is WalMart terrified of "competition", and WHY the HEdoublehockeystick is WalMart allowed to dictate the economy of an entire town?

That is the way they "compete."

We've been fighting Wal-Mart in New York, Chicago, and here in D.C.," Hansen told me this afternoon. "They take jobs away from workers in unionized chains -- jobs that pay decent wages and have decent benefits. No company has done more to reduce the wages and benefits of American workers than Wal-Mart."

Not really, says a recent study that found almost no relationship between supermarket availability and fruit and veggie consumption. Fast food availability, on the other hand, was shown to strongly influence diet quality, especially among low-income residents. "It's not enough to say we will build it [supermarkets] and people will come," lead researcher Penny Gordon-Larsen told HealthDay.
Source: The Bay Citizen (http://s.tt/12T1h)

BUT, you know....you're talking about how we need to pay big wages as an incentive to get motivated and caring people in Washington, and I have 3 problems with that. 1)...WHY hasn't it even begun to start working that way...YET? And what makes you think that it's going to start now, after all these years?
2) You're using the "X Theory of Management" which works poorly with the undereducated to begin with, and turns into a real disaster when you start dealing with those of higher intelligence and ability.
3) LOL! You weren't paying attention when Deathspiral so astutely pointed out that it's NOT only GM which hires idiots to manage a company because they hold the firm belief that all degrees are created equal, and the more the better, regardless of what these people actually learned, hence....we have mega corporations in the hands of people with "degrees" in basketweaving, bowling, chug and puke technology, and naked jello wrestling.

Finally, an issue both Democrats and Republicans agree on: term limits. Nearly 8 in 10 American voters like the idea of imposing fixed time limits in office for all members of Congress -- including their own senators and representatives

How do you balance it... How do you take advantage of a large corporation without them taking advantage of you?