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When meat is the cause of 78% of the deaths in america. I mean it is a great way to gain some fat and muscle quick but its not healthy at all. Im allergic to dairy, glutton, and dyes in meat. And you lose all credibility with such an absurd suggestions that meat causes 78% of the deaths in America.
Allergic to glutton?? Who can possibly be allergic to a glutton? Unless you mean gluten. If you can't even spell it properly, I can't imagine you avoiding it. You said you eat Sunchips. Sunchips aren't gluten free. And *only* the original brand are dairy free.
I have no problem gaining muscle or fat. But apparently you have a big problem keeping your facts straight. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 2:47:57 PM | Dairy is not all fat.
Almond milk only has 1 gram of protein per 8 oz serving.
The only dairy I ingest is fat free Greek yogurt for the protein a couple times per week.
78% of the deaths in America result from general stupidity or lack of education about healthy lifestyles, not animal flesh itself. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2012 1:56:05 PM | there are lots of diets (or ways of eating)
and the one I believe in the most is"
The Primal Diet
some call it the caveman diet (or cave-persons to be politically correct)
not sure if links are allowed, if so, here is more info
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-primal-blueprint/#axzz1ySrHC7Ex
food list here
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-shopping-list/#axzz1yZ9TUH6A | |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 7:22:35 PM | | Hmmmm. I do not go by the food pyramid because I do NOT want all those processed carbs in my body. Yes, you are correct that we need fats, carbohydrates, and protein but I do believe the source of those fats, carbs, and proteins are vitally important. Would you rather have a burger filled with fat or an avocado full of fat? Processed bread with a lot of carbs or a banana with carbs? I'll take the banana thank you very much. My diet includes higher amounts of protein and fats than carbs. I hardly eat any processed carbohydrates and get them all from fruits and veggies. Around 150 carbs per day, mostly from fruit. The only processed foods I eat are Cliff bars and that is before or after a workout. The benefits from my personal experience is higher energy levels and feeling better all around. I've cut out the processed crap and it's amazing how much better I feel. | |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 7:48:39 PM | I follow the
Primal Diet
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-shopping-list/#axzz1yZ9TUH6A
it makes sense to me, and I have lot of energy.
It's a moderate carb, high protein and moderate fats. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 3:51:01 AM | I believe people need to find what works for THEM and take it from there. What one may want to believe in & what may work have at times been 2 different stories. Just like the rumors what someone * needs * can also be false. If someone is hurting their bodies, there are normally ( not always ) signs. Some of us do well on a high protein lower carb diet. Some just the opposite. Why let it irk you? Why not find what works for you personally , including goals etc. and let it be kept at that? Benefits I have found on super high protein ( for me ) is maintaining size, energy & sleep. And so far, I have felt just fine. And who cares? It works for me.
This is where people get silly. Belief's. Sure we all have them. But not everyone is programmed the same way. So it does not good to get irritated over what works for someone else. The only thing I get pissy about is food bills. Mine tend to be a little higher than someone who can wolf down carbs. LOL | |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 12:30:37 PM | I'm over 55...all my vital signs are healthy. I'm a vegetarian and pay zero attention to protein, carbohydrates, etc. I just eat healthy whole foods.
Simple...exercise and eat REAL food. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:21:44 PM |
Benefits I have found on super high protein ( for me ) is maintaining size, energy & sleep. And so far, I have felt just fine. And who cares? It works for me.
How many grams per kg or pound are you consuming? | |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 3:54:35 AM | | 1.5 grams per pound of protein. Carbs I keep at 50 grams or less per day. Feel wonderful. But that is me. A lot of people do not prefer to do this. Good to see you again. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 8:22:56 PM | | Missed you during the uprising lol.I get around 100 grams carbs,a lot less than I used to.I may need to lower this to get leaner yet.Do you really notice it if for some reason you were to consume a plate of pasta? | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 3:00:43 AM | | If you say 'protein diet' people say 'noooo it is bad', then you call it 'Dunkan diet', you charge 50 pounds for a book and everybody think it is the best idea ever. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 4:00:57 AM | State ~ I notice any carbs like pasta, potatoes, grains. I am not diabetic ( tested a few times ) . I just have one of those systems that any of the typical carbs people like to eat make me feel horrible. So I stay off them. I get mine from green veggies. And 90% of the time stay at 20g or less, it just works. I know...it is low. But I do not get the side effects most people get from low carb eating. I also on the flip side, keep fat & calorie intake high. Atkins style without all the bacon.
On my cheat meal which is about every 2 weeks now, or once a week if I want, I do eat anything. However, not a lot now. Lately what I do for a cheat meal is a small lasagna or eggplant dish type thing. Or pizza...depending on my mood. Or where I am !
I am glad I can live and feel good on low carbs. I take a 16oz rare Ribeye over anything else anyway. :) | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 11:54:19 AM | Diets don't work. Going on a diet somehow implies you're going to come off it at some point.
If you want to avoid putting on weight or lose weight and keep it off then it has to be a PERMANENT lifestyle adjustment.
Maintaining a healthy weight is so very complicated though. I mean, sensible balanced diet and regular exercise is such a diffiult concept to grap isn't it ? ;-) | |
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Posted: 7/14/2012 8:51:22 PM | I agree with that statement, "diets imply that you will stop it at some point." And, in my opinion, you shouldn't strive to lose weight for one particular time in your life, it should be a lifestyle change that lasts for the rest of your life. Honestly, it's not difficult! Beyond that, I want to address some of the way people consume foods. Now, it's easy to just assign a ration of macronutrients to the body in hopes of either building muscle, or losing fat. But, to truly be effective at achieving one or both of these goals, you have to understand a few things. For a lot of us, we spend a lot of time in a glycolyctic dominant metabolism where we use glycogen as energy. Diet's low in carbohydrates do make sense because a lot of the carbohydrates we ingest are foreign to the body (grains/refined sugars) ,and due to the fact that we spend most of our days in a fed state (eating anywhere from 3-12 times a day) we not only limit the amount of fat we can burn, but cause harm to our body's over a period of time. A very effective way to increase the amount of fat we burn is by increasing the amount of dietary fat we ingest to switch from a glycolytic dominant metabolism to a fat burning metabolism...this allows your body to not only utilize dietary fat as a fuel source, but utilize fat from your body's adipose sites for fuel.
In regards to protein, a common problem found with excessive protein intake in most diets is the fact that at some point it becomes superfluous. The body only cares for a sufficient quantity, not excessive amounts. In fact, if your goal is to burn fat and you are excessively consuming protein in an attempt to build more muscle you run the risk of having more glucose in your blood due to the process of gluconeogenesis, where the body breaks down amino acids in attempt to provide the body with much needed energy...What does that mean? Well, if you've lowered your carbohydrate intake your body will simply get the glucose it needs by breaking down amino acids to maintain blood sugar levels and provide you with energy. So, how much protein should you be consuming? Well, it depends on your body weight, metabolic rate, and daily calorie consumption. It can be a bit tricky, but there are ways to get as close as possible.
The only point I wanted to make is, protein is overhyped, carbohydrates are great (if you eat the right ones in the right quantity at the right time), and, contrary to popular lore, fats are not bad for you! | |
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Posted: 7/21/2012 2:17:41 PM | | the amount of carbs that the average person consumes is way too high, which probably accounts for the fact that we have so much obesity in western nations, especially the US. it's not that people shouldn't eat carbs, it's a matter of how much and what types. some carbs have a high glycemic index, which elevates blood sugar levels quite quickly and also causes the body to release a lot of insulin. one can eat lower levels of carbs with a low glycemic index and experience greater weight loss benefits. let's face it, not everyone's body is the same, but within a certain range there are certain things that work and do not work when it comes to weight loss. for me, i do not do well on a high carb/starch diet. for me, it's a once and while thing. i generally do better with a higher protein diet. i also do not watch fat, and since i stopped caring about fat intake so much, my cholesterol levels have dropped from 245 to 189. i have always had issues with high cholesterol, which is primarily genetic, imo. i think the atkins diet is great for short term, but i prefer the zone diet for ongoing weight maintenance. the zone diet is based on a balance of 40 percent protein, 30 percent fat, and 30 percent carbohydrates. i weigh the same as i did in high school, and i do work out regularly. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2012 12:37:27 AM | I've read that ratio (40/30/30)is ideal for ongoing weight maintenance, also. .but what ratio is good for losing weight? Also, I'm curious what people's opinions are on how many grams of carbohydrates one needs, say on a 1300-1400 calorie diet. I eat pretty clean for the most part, dinner is usually a serving of quinoa with salmon and veggies, with a salad (kale, spinach, red and yellow bell peppers, cucumber, green onion with fat free dressing), snack is an egg white, almonds (15 almonds)veggies like mushrooms if I get hungry again, grapes after dinner, breakfast is a banana with tbsp of almond or peanut butter, after workout fuel is tofu or fat free greek yogurt. lunch is salad again with veggie entree. Workout 4 times a week for 1 1/2 hours, 30 minutes free weights, 50-60 mins cardio
Yep, I'll agree with the statement dairy is not all fat, especially if you get the non fat or low fat version. I'm also wondering if limiting dairy would help, too, say get protein and calcium from soy and veggies one day, then dairy the next day. . | |
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Posted: 10/15/2012 4:06:58 PM | I do 1500 calories on a light training day and about 1700 on a heavier training day and my diet's not nearly as clean as Jpw's. Generally speaking, every meal I eat will have a source of protein, a fruit or veggie source and and some source of carbs, usually whole grains. It seems to work for me even though I'd never be able to give advanced nutrition advice.
In a typical week I'll do 4 30-minute runs, 2 spin classes, a 20-minute bag session and 2 one-hour weightlifting sessions along with three martial arts classes. Tends to work off my imperfect habits and my cheat meals.
I think people can do a lot if they exercise more and control intake, even of they don't immediately switch to 1200 calories and no soda. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2012 6:53:41 PM | I started the year 2012 with the goal of being able to see my abs. In January I weighed 170lbs and was 38-1/2” across the stomach. I change my lifestyle diet and have been exercising with resistance and cardio training and walking three miles a day.
I have lost 14lbs and 6” on the stomach, average; there have been days here and there were the scales were lighter and the tape smaller. Should have been more but I am not an intense exerciser and life happens, threw my back out and now I am in allergy season which I suffer from allergy induce asthma.
Early on I journal my diet and I never knew I ate so many carbs. Since then I have reduced my carbs. While my calories vary daily from surplus to deficit, I run a weekly deficit and this has worked for me.
I’m at the point where I am trying to loose the last few pounds of fat, not weight, which could be muscle or water, but loose fat.
This is a long lead up to my question to the POF populace. I have read that you should use protein as your fulcrum in your diet, by that I mean that you should never eat carbs and fat together when you are trying to get lean, trying to drop those last few pounds of fat; that you should eat either one with a protein but not combine them together.
The claim is that this combination will make fat storage easier, even if it is at a calorie deficit and make getting leaner harder.
But I wanted to see what you folks thought because I am at that last stage. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2012 8:31:18 PM | | You guys are talking about some crazy stuff. If you want to get down to like a bodybuilders contest body fat %, then yes you can eat protein with only a carb or a fat, yes you can do a carb depleation/loading diet, but if your just the average person that wants to look nice and lean you don't have to do any of that craziness. All you have to do is keep your macros in check, portion your meals properly, and eat your fats/carbs earlier in the day. If your active I don't get why carbs are bad, they are the most readily available source of energy for the body, so as long as you know your going to use them, why not eat them? | |
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Posted: 10/15/2012 8:50:29 PM |
I started the year 2012 with the goal of being able to see my abs. In January I weighed 170lbs and was 38-1/2” across the stomach. I change my lifestyle diet and have been exercising with resistance and cardio training and walking three miles a day.
I have lost 14lbs and 6” on the stomach, average; there have been days here and there were the scales were lighter and the tape smaller. Should have been more but I am not an intense exerciser and life happens, threw my back out and now I am in allergy season which I suffer from allergy induce asthma.
IMO if you are 5' 9" and 154lbs and you can not seen you abs you are never going to see them, as it sounds like you are mostly ectomorph.
Understanding your body type is key when thinking about how you can change your body.
Early on I journal my diet and I never knew I ate so many carbs. Since then I have reduced my carbs. While my calories vary daily from surplus to deficit, I run a weekly deficit and this has worked for me.
How are you able to determine if you are running a surplus or a deficient?
I can see how one could somewhat estimate what they would need per day based on height, weight, age, sex etc..., but how do you determine how much you are consuming?
A food item may contain "X" calories, but that is only a measure of its potential, as how well you chew it, how fresh it is and many other factors come into play including how much passed right through you.
Manufactured foods that have constant calorie readings are a bit misleading, because they are nothing more than chemical representations of food.
So eat when you are hungry types of foods that at one time where alive and exercise for your health and do not worry if you can see your abs or not. | |
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Posted: 10/16/2012 8:00:26 AM | I do understand that. . that it is ok to eat carbs, as long as you are going to use them, but I'm wondering what the general consensus is on what percentage of carbs from total calories should one have? Say, you have about 7 -8 lbs you would like to lose. There is varying advice out there from different sources. .I've heard that one should start with the minimum amount of carbs one needs, but who knows what that is, and then gradually increase it to see how the body responds in terms of weight loss or whatever one is trying to accomplish.
I'm wondering how does one determine what body type you have. .ectomorph, etc. | |
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Posted: 10/16/2012 1:06:41 PM | [http://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-primal-blueprint/#axzz1ySrHC7Ex
food list here
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-shopping-list/#axzz1yZ9TUH6A]
Love the links | |
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Posted: 10/16/2012 3:38:08 PM |
you should never eat carbs and fat together when you are trying to get lean
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You should not eat animal fat/ protein and carbs together for opt weight loss and health IMO.
Acidic forming..
A chicken leg with skin and a potato or brown rice
Pineapple with pork loin
Any animal product and a starch or fruit at the same meal
Alkaline forming and balancing insulin would be..
Adding a good plant based fat like organic olive oil on a baked potato or organic coconut oil on a sweet potato adding a dash of cinnamon and you will think its a desert.
A bit of flax oil on top of brown rice and veggies ( after cooking) if you eat grains. | |
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