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But what if the D in math was the result of hard work? What if the student who didn't get top marks still worked as hard as he/she could? Isn't it more about the effort rather than the score?
Um...not when it comes to my children. I know what they are capable of and know if/when they are just being lazy, | |
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Posted: 6/9/2012 9:32:51 AM | @ bucsgirl : Agree completely.
OP: Last year I took on teaching 2 classes at a local university and would have failed 90% of them straight up, if it were up to me. Totally unredeemable. Couldn't string a sentence together let alone write an academic paper. The tertiary sector in Australia has become corrupt in its endeavour to stay afloat, and will pass just about anybody who has the money to pay for a degree.
Heaven help these kids when they eventually get out into the working world and learn that their underperformance just won't cut it when someone is paying them to deliver.
@want to travel :
read in the paper, about how tough it is for graduates to find jobs in their fields so they just refuse to work........
What? Are you saying that the government pays them to do nothing? Heck, I swept floors, sold dresses, pulled beer, cooked burgers till I got my first break.
@NDTfan : I don't think that McCullough's statements contradict your view necessarily. It seems to me he is against socializing education to the extent that all students are equal, which they are not. He's advocating that students recognize their own achievement - and that is a view with which I agree. Not everyone is cut out to be a rocket scientist; some are better with their hands, others music. It takes all kinds to make a world and all successful endeavours need to be rewarded.
But then it's 2:30am and I may be missing something.
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Posted: 6/9/2012 9:49:16 AM | I worked during h.s. Put myself through college and grad school while working full-time in my career. It was d*amn hard and I'm proud of myself. It was quite an achievement for me. All those years of waking up at 5:30 and not getting home until 10:30 at night and studying and doing my work from work the rest of the time (weekends/holidays etc)
Am I personally proud of myself? Yes, I stuck with and finished something that was long, difficult and challenging. Am I special? No. The kids I work with routinely make zero effort and do substandard work and are always telling me how smart they are and how proud of the work they are. Heaven help us. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2012 11:26:12 AM | But what if the D in math was the result of hard work? What if the student who didn't get top marks still worked as hard as he/she could? Isn't it more about the effort rather than the score?
Its a game. Do we give the team that loses a trophy because of good efforts? A "D" means try harder ... no matter how hard you THINK you tried you need to change course - whatever you are doing didn't work.
I had to be certified for my job just to keep my job. I got the highest mark and passed the first time unlike my collegues. There was no "good job" or "wow" ... just a bunch of people waiting for me to get back to work.
I got to work after the test and was told I had to work late because we were short-staffed.
This is the real world. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2012 8:16:13 PM | Mark inflation is rampant across Canada
Teachers are giving students higher and higher marks for less and less work ..
Its a whole new generation of teachers out there .. and a whole new generation of parents | |
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Posted: 6/10/2012 3:05:39 AM | What do you think? I think the message is important and meaningful. I think his method of expressing it was poor. As far as public speaking, he, as well, is not special.
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Posted: 6/10/2012 12:00:35 PM |
I dated someone years ago who had an entitled brat w/ 2 degrees...she sits home & doesn't work, period. Hasn't since she graduated...
Not an unusual story, a book on Amazon address this its called "Worthless: The Indispensable Guide to Choosing the Right Major". She likely got suckered into getting a couple of strange liberal arts degrees which have no value to any employer or most anyone else. Even worse is the debt load she has because of this. The schmuck who marries her gets this big bonus dowry of debt, two degrees, that could be pushing a 100 grand. You could pay for a home outright for that.
My older son is 27, lives w/ me & is high functioning autistic. He graduated w/ a GED & has been employed ever since. His current job, he's been at for 4 years...it's clerical & involves attention to detail, using an involved computer program.
I have a brother who has friedrich's ataxia, that's mentally retarded, and he works. He does not make a lot of money, still he gets up early and goes to work. I probably have aspergers, my employer pays me 50 bucks an hour. You have to do something people value and need.
You can Google "Americans Are Still Swimming in Debt They Can't Pay"
This is not a government debt problem its a personal debt problem. Student loans are a personal debt problem, the 2008 housing crises was a personal debt problem.
I remember posting here about the impending hosing crash and got my post deleted for pointing out the financial pearl people were putting themselves in. This all relates to the common entitlement, generation me thinking. I do think there the beginnings of an adjustment in attitude because of the ongoing economic malaise that has no end in sight. | |
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Posted: 6/16/2012 9:12:02 PM | Aristotle, cubanguy, Blalah hit it, I agree.
College isn't right for everyone and shouldn't be. And as Blalah proves, H. S. isn't right for everyone. The teaching methods don't work for MANY and with each passing year there is less and less educating really going on, of the intelligent variety.
Everyone in this cookie-cutter, no child left behind, politically correct society thinks they are special and entitled. People are getting progressively dumber, as a society, even with all of their education.
I agree with McCullough, however, his words will be wasted on 99% of those graduates. Why? The government pushes the opposite and you know how the younger generation droned up for the largest voter turn-out of 18-30 year old's ever in history to vote for A Change.
I have never seen such a gold rush of people wanting to build big government and lay down their rights. The younger generation believes pretty much all of WWII was fabricated, that there was no holocaust and no such thing as espionage.
I have to wonder what the hell is going on in the school systems or if this is some blanket knowledge "gifted" to this young generation. They sure believe their elders have destroyed the world and are idiots. Try to tell them governments did that and that is why we have to down-size it and be more self-sufficient and they are ready to euthanize you for being old and ignorant.
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| High School Graduates You are not special
Posted: 6/17/2012 5:39:38 AM | I saw it and watched it intently. My thought was, it's about time someone said it. He was absolutely 100% spot on with everything he said and I too chimed in with my 2 cents and posted when it came out. BUT, this needs to be said from the cradle on...not only at graduation. Probably the one thing I hate the most is giving children "stickers" for everything.
Great topic by the way.... thanks for posting it. | |
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