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part of the problem with donations is that people would rather do it on thier own free will rather than constantly being pestered to donate
That. Almost every friggin' time you check out at any given higher-profile groceries store, the cashier will ask you to donate a small amount X to [enter good cause of the day], and it annoys THE HELL out of me, that I can't go shopping at specific places without being asked to leave EVEN MORE of my hard-earned $$$ than what I am already spending on my purchases. Your company wants to be charitable? Fine, let THEM be charitable. Instead of pestering customers to leave EVEN MORE money in the store, so that YOUR company can get a great rep as a charitable company donating THEIR CUSTOMERS' monies to [enter good cause of the day], while receiving the donation receipt for YOUR company, just take a certain percentage of your revenue and donate that. Period. Yeah, your already filthy-rich stockholders will take a small hit, but let's be honest: Most store goods are overpriced to an extent where a fully tax-deductible donation of .01% of the revenue doesn't hurt your financial performance; besides, the PR value gained by that may be huge.
I am nowhere near being wealthy; I get by just fine and live comfortable enough, but I am working like a horse to afford my life and accumulate some savings, and I resent anyone asking me even for ONE CENT of my hard-earned $$$ as if they had a right to access my money or make me feel bad, if I refused the donation. That said: I am a charitable person. I give to causes of MY choice, I pay annual dues to non-profit organizations and I donate 100s of work hours worth 1,000s of $$ every year to good causes. But enough is enough. If I am coming to your place to spend money, don't try to coax me out of even more money during the check-out process (after I have already been begged for money by the annoying baseball kids or the squeaky girlscouts or the bell-ringing Salvation Army dude or god-knows-who when passing your entrance doors). It's annoying (and it is - quite frankly - one of the many reasons I prefer shopping at places like ALDI and Save-a-lot on one hand or the local farmers' market on the other hand over places like Wholefoods and Publix.
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Posted: 6/18/2012 9:53:44 AM | | Wealthy folks not wanting to donate a dime is just as terrible as me not wanting to get up outta bed for my morning wiz. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 10:36:01 AM | | As others have said, I don't think it is about the amount of money, even only a dime. It's about other things, like being able to do your shopping and not be harangued to make a charity donation when you are checking out. It is about being asked every time you turn around to donate to one thing or another. It is about donating to a charity you don't know. For example, I did my research and chose a charity that is way at the top of the list for having most of its proceeds (90%) go directly to those it is helping. In lots, actually most, charities, far less goes directly to those they are purportedly helping. A lot goes to administrative costs, advertising costs, and salaries for those who work for the charity, etc. (In a lot of cases, I think people would be very surprised, disappointed and even appalled.) I chose this charity to be the one I turn to when I want to make charitable donations because of its record for using such a high level its funds in direct aid and for the specific cause, which I care about. There are organizations that research and rate charities according to how much of their funds go to ‘costs’ and how much go directly to the actual cause of those in need. You can find those organizations on line. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 11:06:17 AM | I get an absolute "F" for the way I worded my initial post. I got an "A" in Effective Communication when I was in college (many moons ago) and I guess all that learning went out the window. I DID title the thread as a rant because I was PEEVED when I wrote it. Usually, if the word "rant" is involved, I doubt it's going to come out well.........and it SURE didn't! :)
It was the post from Blalah, msg. 17, that made me go back and re-read my OP. I did NOT set the appropriate stage for the scenario that I was writing about (the SPECIFIC scenario).
- The store offers a ten cent credit for every bag brought in by a customer
- They can choose to donate it to the SPECIFIC (quarterly) charity or take it off their bill. There is no unspecified "charity" pot that the dimes go in to for later distribution.
- The quarterly charity is within the community.......always local. The regulars know this. Those that aren't familiar ask about it and we explain it.
- We have a lot of regulars.........tons. They bring in their bags and are familiar with the credit and the options. MOST begin their transaction with "donate to the local"..........they don't need to be asked their preference.
- I ask the way I d0......"Would you like to donate your bag credit to charity?".......because that's how I ask! And, AGAIN, MOST know what I'm talking about.
- The guy I ranted about is obviously a "regular" (though I'd never seen him) because he said he'd "never been asked that way"
You may wish to re-read the initial (poorly worded) post that says I kept my mouth shut (at first). That he kept throwing out comments.......after about the third one.........I commented back. The freedom of speech Flaneur spoke of in post 30 applies both ways. I wasn't RUDE to the guy. I kept my mouth shut! UNTIL....he wouldn't drop it and I commented back. Even then, I wasn't exactly RUDE.
Also, in the initial post, I wrote: "I'm asking your thoughts on very well to do people hanging on to ten little cents".
No one except SpringDive, Igor, B33 actually responded to THAT. (If I missed anyone.......my apology)
And when I said I don't care how much you give to the charities of your choice it's because that has nothing to do with giving a dime to the local charity OR taking it off your grocery bill. In other words, there is no other option (at my store) so the POINT of the thread was saving ten cents on a bill.
I'm still not sure I explained this well but this thread is now so convoluted I doubt it's worth trying to explain. I DO see how all the hostility started though............I was having a "rant" and didn't describe the actual situation well.
Some of the responses though have been so hostile and vile......WOW! I've been called many things!!! Though I should have calmed down before posting.....and pretty much opened the door for SOME of what I got.........some of you must be seriously sad people!
Jac's last paragraph in msg. 22 blew my mind. Slow day in the village?
A couple of posters are so far off base I'm not going to comment.
HOWEVER!! Blahlah!!! Please send me the address of Blalah Corp. of the Pacific (msg. 17)!!! I have a soft spot for homeless mollusks off the coast of Kaho'olawe. I'd like to send your organization a check.............for a dime! :)
For those that have taken personal pot-shots.......my supervisors get positive comments all the time about me!! It's because I really like my little part-time job. It's fun, most people are really nice, I learn a lot about healthy good food, can offer my two cents on something if a customer asks.......many positives. Doesn't mean a jerk won't get me riled. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 11:14:35 AM | it annoys THE HELL out of me, that I can't go shopping at specific places without being asked to leave EVEN MORE of my hard-earned $$$ than what I am already spending on my purchases. Your company wants to be charitable? Fine, let THEM be charitable
You will find that big box retailers are forever asking thier customers and employees to donate to some cause or another but kick in very little themselves ( proportionally to what thier net income is in a year considering that they are the ones championing the specific cause). Who is cheap I say the owners of the stores are the ones who are so tight they squeak when they walk. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 11:36:15 AM | Some of the responses though have been so hostile and vile......WOW! I've been called many things!!! Though I should have calmed down before posting.....and pretty much opened the door for SOME of what I got.........some of you must be seriously sad people!
No worries organicquestionmark! Ignore the rude comment directed at you, there are always a few bozos on this bus. However you opened the door for us to rant about the store policies(mostly the big chains) and IMO we have a valid point and it's a nice release. Thank you for that. It's not about you, pls don't be offended. Join in on the rant! | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 12:29:17 PM |
OP -"Would you like to donate your bag credit to charity?".
I don't see anything wrong with you asking him in this manner. Whether or not employers should ask/tell their employers to solicit donations is another matter. Many people get annoyed by such actions, yet many also donate to worthwhile causes.
OP - But he kept throwing out comments.........such as, he felt I was pushing my "agenda" by asking him in the manner in which I did.
If you indeed asked him in the manner you stated, I believe HE was out of line. Many people look down on people performing jobs they may consider menial. I have had similar experiences with MORONS.
OP -Well, duh you fricking MORON! Of course I am! Because I find it really hard to believe that Mercedes, Lexus, Range Rover riding tight wads really want to save a dime on their grocery bill.
I hope those reading this post realize that this was sarcasm, and not what you actually said. Correct me if I am wrong. IF you did indeed respond like that, I can see why so many people seem irate in regard to your "behavior". I don't think that is the case.
OP - I told him I thought it was very philanthropic for people to part with their DIMES for a good cause (end sarcasm). Finally told him is OPINION was duly noted.
THIS I do feel was unnecessary and unprofessional. However, having dealt with such people before and having made similar statements at times when I probably should have remained quiet, I understand.
So this is part of what I have gotten from this thread:
1. People have gotten very tired of being asked to donate to charities at checkout lines and elsewhere.
2. Many people donate in other ways or at other times. They may have donated earlier that day at a different store. There is a limit for most people.
3. People want to know where their money is going and how much it will actually help. They may research charities that interest them and donate in such a way as to have more control and receive tax benefits.
4. They do not want to made to feel bad if they choose not to donate. That seems reasonable to me. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 12:51:16 PM |
I freely admit I ask in the way I do because I'm hoping they'll donate. So what?
I'm talking about people dressed to the nines, driving expensive cars, staying in their part-time condo on the beach wanting to take a DIME off their bill!
What do you think? I'm not asking for a critique on how I ask..........I'm sure some will agree that it probably isn't the BEST way but it's how I choose to do it. I'm asking your thoughts on very well off people hanging on to TEN LITTLE CENTS!!! I would more than likely suggest to your manager that your tone of asking is out of line since after all, it's my dime that you're asking me to donate to what you feel is a worthy cause.
To you, I'd probably suggest that you donate your own dimes to said cause and take the fking ten cents off my bill tyvm.
I'm normally a generous person and toss my extra change into collection boxes for children's charities and I almost always give to the little kids at the entrance of the store when they're selling apples or candies or whatnot to raise money for their little leagues. What I absolutely will not do is donate to any charity when someone suggests either by words or tone that this is the correct thing for me to do with my dimes. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 1:03:04 PM | To me "solicitation" is asking for monies in exchange for a service. We aren't dime whores and that isn't what's going on. Believe me.........if I were to "whore for money"........it'd cost way more than ten cents........and I would ignore your request for a refund!!! :)
The company I work for isn't perfect. But it's a darn good company that OFFERS customers a bag credit. How many of you out there being so critical can argue that that's a bad thing? It's to encourage recycling.....(just in case you didn't get that). And PLEASE let us all know how many stores you frequent that do that.
Springs: I absolutely DID ask him in the manner in which I stated......as I have every customer for the eight months I've worked there! NEVER had anyone take issue until this guy. And.......like I said.........I kept my mouth shut until he just wouldn't shut his.
My telling him that his opinion was "duly noted" was to get him to STOP making comments!! He (seriously) kept making them. What the hell else should I have said???? (Please.....no comments needed. I have the job I have on purpose......I WANT to be a "lowly" cashier!!! :) )
He had a big order so it took a while to complete his transaction. Thankfully, a co-worker was bagging his groceries as I rang them through. Sometimes we, as a cashier, do both. Sometimes, we get help from a co-worker to bag the groceries (when it's a big order) as we ring them through.
When this guy left......... TWO co-workers were VERY "befuddled" as to what took place.....they heard it......they know me.......they thought Mr. Dime was JUST as sweet of a man as I thought! End sarcasm. It was NOT a situation where I was being rude or disrespectful.....or any of the other adjectives that have been used to describe me (from strangers on a website).......................
When you work in customer service......you get all kinds. Sometimes it makes you sad.
Just a thought......if you're rude to a cashier anywhere.......a desk clerk, a receptionist, a phone clerk, a waitress.............or whomever. If you look "down" on them?
Perhaps wonder if they are doing what they're doing by choice. While you're there......still working at whatever you're working at.........because you have to.
The joke may be on you! :) | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 1:56:19 PM |
OP - To me "solicitation" is asking for monies in exchange for a service. We aren't dime whores and that isn't what's going on. Believe me.........if I were to "whore for money"........it'd cost way more than ten cents........and I would ignore your request for a refund!!! :)
From Dictionary.com (emphasis added)
1. to seek for (something) by entreaty, earnest or respectful request, formal application, etc.: He solicited aid from the minister.
2.
to entreat or petition (someone or some agency): to solicit the committee for funds.
3.
to seek to influence or incite to action, especially unlawful or wrong action.
4.
to offer to have sex with in exchange for money.
verb (used without object)
5.
to make a petition or request, as for something desired.
6.
to solicit orders or trade, as for a business: No soliciting allowed in this building.
The definition you allude to is only one of many.
I agree with the poster above. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 2:43:16 PM | Lordy. I agree that everywhere we go, we are asked to give. My work place alone, there is a never-ending "charity" fundraiser for their kids who attend some of the nicest schools in the state.
Neighbor from down the street comes up our driveway with his H.S. age son:
Him: "We're selling frozen pizzas for skippy's football camp." (Bear in mind, affluent area.)
Me: "Sorry, we don't eat frozen pizzas."
Him: "Well, we accept donations anyway..."
Me: Saying nothing and walking inside.
"Donations." Uh-huh. Because football camp is every American child's "right" I guess...
Charity starts at home. I see PLENTY of McMansions in foreclosure, so stop making wild assumptions about people on where they shop.
And as someone who NEEDS to shop at such a grocer as your own due to food allergies, I find it VERY offensive for you to make such assumptions. That $250 bag of specialty groceries hurts at the checkout, and is much less food than another person can get for $250. You are so myopic in this...just stop...please... you wanna dump on supposed "rich people" go protest Wall Street.
I "reuse/recycle" my bags as garbage can liners, negating the need to buy trash bags.
Some of us were "green" long ago before we were told to be. But it's new to you kids and your demanding attitudes of entitlement.
"Donate to local?" is not a way to begin a transaction. Whatever happened to "hi, how are you today?" or "Did you find everything OK today?" Sometimes, you just throw people off and startle them and they have NO IDEA what the HECK you are talking about, thus setting up an exchange complete with friction. Re-think YOUR role in this. | |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 11:22:26 PM | Forget all the donations ,
Lets GET A DIME FOR EVERY BAG TAKEN OFF OUR FOOD BILL...
They wont rage then will they .... Greed???? wow , Just a Punt of what really ID like ! I buy 90% orgainc & know where you work.. it would be bomb huh!
LOL...Thats a good choice... take it all of the bill, charity's are filthy rich & squander millions !
whoop whoop S_n____eRs | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 2:58:12 AM | OP - I think you should put the shovel away. The hole is way bigger than a dime's worth already.
I think no matter how the OP wants to rewrite the original post, the matter of his self-righteous attitude toward these customers' donations and his indignation when they don't donate comes across quite clearly, and it probably comes across when he asks people the question about using the dime for charity or putting it on account. It's not the amount that is at issue but some self-righteous prig telling me what to do with my money that is the problem. Where and how and for what reason I spend any of my dimes is my business and mine alone. 'Judge not, that ye be not judged,' OP. As you see in this thread, you've been judged quite harshly. Something to think about instead of digging a deeper and deeper hole trying to defend yourself.
….stop making wild assumptions about people on where they shop …..And as someone who NEEDS to shop at such a grocer as your own due to food allergies, I find it VERY offensive for you to make such assumptions. That $250 bag of specialty groceries hurts at the checkout, and is much less food than another person can get for $250. You are so myopic in this...just stop...please... you wanna dump on supposed "rich people" go protest Wall Street. Excellent point. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 8:05:49 AM | Your store offers both options, as an employee you need to confirm which the customer chooses....and that is it. You should not be offering your opinion as well.
The guy that wants the dime back may cut large checks towards charities every year and just prefers those he can keep a record of, you should have more respect for the customers and your employer.
Personally I resent when a store asks me for donations. My groceries are pricey enough and I prefer to dontate to charitites of MY choosing not someone else. Ever since the United Way scandal a few years ago, I really pay close attention to where my charity dollars go. Some 'charities' spend more money on advertising and salaries then even gets into the hands of the people that need it. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 8:24:57 AM | | ^^^^The United Way scandal was a horrible blow to non-profits. I was working at a non-profit (had been for years) and it gave a whole new perspective to sitting before the United Way board to "appeal" for funding......it was awful. I chose to resign soon after. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 8:51:18 AM | I am wondering, OP, if working in a customer-oriented environment is the ideal choice for you? Where I grew up, everybody working in retail knew that "the customer is king" and had to be treated as such - with the utmost respect. You don't judge a customer, and you don't shut them up. You SERVE them and you make THEM feel good, period. If that's not what you're willing to do, then maybe looking for a job away from those annoying filthy-rich people who obnoxiously insist on making their own decisions about their own money might be a good idea?
To me "solicitation" is asking for monies in exchange for a service. We aren't dime whores and that isn't what's going on. Believe me.........if I were to "whore for money"........it'd cost way more than ten cents........and I would ignore your request for a refund!!! :)
You're doing something even worse: You're asking for money WITHOUT an exchange for a service or a good. You want money for nothing, so your company/employer can look good, when THEY officially make the tax-deductable donation to whatever the cause may be.
The company I work for isn't perfect. But it's a darn good company that OFFERS customers a bag credit. How many of you out there being so critical can argue that that's a bad thing? It's to encourage recycling.....(just in case you didn't get that). And PLEASE let us all know how many stores you frequent that do that.
Target, for instance, does it. You get 5 Cents back if you don't need a bag. And there are plenty of stores (like Aldi and Save-a-lot) that charge for bags, so if you don't need any of their bags, you won't get charged. Which is, in effect, the same thing. Your employer is nowhere near as special as you seem to want for us to believe.
Also, what you don't seem to understand, OP, is the fact that it doesn't make a difference if that dime gets added to the bill or just not returned with the change. Either way, there are 10 cents that the customer is entitled to missing in his wallet.
Springs: I absolutely DID ask him in the manner in which I stated......as I have every customer for the eight months I've worked there! NEVER had anyone take issue until this guy. And.......like I said.........I kept my mouth shut until he just wouldn't shut his.
Unfortunately, though, it's not just the wording, it's also the TONE in which you ask someone for THEIR money. Chances are that your tone was obnoxious or condescending and that he didn't like that. Ever thought of that?
My telling him that his opinion was "duly noted" was to get him to STOP making comments!! He (seriously) kept making them. What the hell else should I have said????
You shouldn't have said ANYTHING. It's not your place and not your position to shut up customers; see above.
When this guy left......... TWO co-workers were VERY "befuddled" as to what took place.....they heard it......they know me.......they thought Mr. Dime was JUST as sweet of a man as I thought! End sarcasm. It was NOT a situation where I was being rude or disrespectful.....or any of the other adjectives that have been used to describe me (from strangers on a website).......................
So let me get this straight: You resent being judged by "strangers on a website," however, you think it's perfectly acceptable that a store customer is being judged by a stranger ringing uo his groceries?
Just a thought......if you're rude to a cashier anywhere.......a desk clerk, a receptionist, a phone clerk, a waitress.............or whomever. If you look "down" on them?
I don't look down on anyone for their choice of job, and I am NEVER rude to anybody - unless they are being jerks to me. I will then put my foot down and make sure to get heard by their supervisor pretty much immediately. Had you displayed a judgmental attitude towards me, chances are that I would have talked to your supervisor.
Perhaps wonder if they are doing what they're doing by choice. While you're there......still working at whatever you're working at.........because you have to.
The joke may be on you! :)
Oh, so now the poor, poor lawyer or heart surgeon or travel writer who "have to" work for whatever reason (even though they might tremendously enjoy what they're doing) are the ones that get pitied by you, because you "choose" to work in retail? So in your opinion, not "having to" work is a better thing that not having to work, but working anyway and occupying a job you don't need "just because," despite millions of Americans being in dire need of a paying job, because they HAVE TO work to pay their bills? Now THAT's really charitable of you (not!) - and now the joke may be on you. Again.
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Posted: 6/19/2012 9:01:31 AM | I know a well off guy that would scratch your eyes out for a dime. Guess what he has for dinner...half a can of soup. It's why he is loaded.
If you are rich, and you don't donate like a buck once in a while you are the George Costanza of this world. Don't get me
wrong, they don't have to give money if they don't want too. But I can't stand cheap people.
Landra2, maybe if you we're in a situation where you wished a millionaire would give a tiny tiny tiny fraction of their money you would think different.
Whats the issue here, giving money or being bugged?? | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 10:21:13 AM | It's obvious that trying to explain the train wreck I didn't mean to start............isn't going to help the actual point I was trying to make.
I used the words "rich cheapskates" in the title because it's odd to me when people on foodstamps donate while people like "him" (like lots of "you") don't.
Don't care anymore to try and make my point clear. It isn't going to happen.......obviously.
This has become so convoluted.......it's gross.
Justmytypewriter: You're so off base it's ALMOST funny! :) | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 11:30:56 AM |
I used the words "rich cheapskates" in the title because it's odd to me when people on foodstamps donate while people like "him" (like lots of "you") don't. You get a lot of people on foodstamps shopping at your workplace do ya?
Mayhap if these people on foodstamps took the dime rather than donating it, then they wouldn't need foodstamps to begin with... regardless, I don't see where anyone has the right to tell me where or if I should donate any amount of money.
Suck it up princess... or donate your paycheque to the cause... or are you too damned cheap? | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 11:33:14 AM | One in six is on foodstamps in this nation. If they are giving what little money they have away, how does that help?
(And does it dawn on your that is OUR taxes at work?) Does it have to surpass the Great Depression before people wrap their entitled minds around how screwed up everything is? If they are giving away their foodstamp money, that is telling.
Wake up, OP. Put away that shovel. I can barely hear you anymore you're so deep. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 11:43:13 AM |
It's obvious that trying to explain the train wreck I didn't mean to start............isn't going to help the actual point I was trying to make.
I used the words "rich cheapskates" in the title because it's odd to me when people on foodstamps donate while people like "him" (like lots of "you") don't.
Don't care anymore to try and make my point clear. It isn't going to happen.......obviously.
What's OBVIOUS (to everyone but you) is that you refuse (or are unable) to get the point. Every single participant in this thread has understood EXACTLY where you were going, however, they HAVEN'T AGREED with you. And obviously you can't stand people to disagree with you. You want us to tell you that you were right when you were being judgmental and rude. Well, guess what, you were NOT being right. You were WRONG.
This has become so convoluted.......it's gross.
Self-righteousness is gross.
Do you have a mirror? Take a look at the face of self-righteousness. Gross, eh?
Justmytypewriter: You're so off base it's ALMOST funny! :)
Actually, I am spot-on, but you are so intent on revolving around yourself that you can't even see all the good points everybody else has been making. I am glad I am not you. It must be terrible to never get the point, never understand the joke, never see the irony. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 11:49:12 AM | Wow Lint....you sound like a real peach! Do you find people in the real world wanting to get as far away from you as possible?
There are many "regulars" at the store that receive foodstamps. What's your point?
You're suggesting that the people on foodstamps might not need foodstamps IF they DIDN'T donate their dimes? WOW! You're not JUST a peach!!!
You're a fruit salad!! :) Princess! | |
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