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It should be but it isn't. Men and women in their 50's and older should be happy to meet someone who will be good to them and make them happy. But no, they want it all or nothing despite their own shortcomings as though they're still in their 20s and "all that." I find this very disturbing since most of us had very little when we were in our 20's..Also no one else can make you happy they can only increase your level of it. You make it sound like women are desperate simply because they are older.. That is not the case, otherwise they might just cling to any port in the storm, which most are not doing..
It should be but it isn't. Men and women in their 50's and older should be happy to meet someone who will be good to them and make them happy. But no, they want it all or nothing despite their own shortcomings as though they're still in their 20s and "all that."
While I've never been one to think that I'm "all that" ~ I know for a fact that today, I'm much more "all that" than I was in my 20's. Not due to material possessions or money, but because the inside is SO much more substance filled than in my earlier years. And yes, today? I want "it all." In my 20's I was willing to overlook personality traits and other not-so-positive things because I, at that point in life, didn't really know any better. I was much more willing, back then, to "settle" (so to speak.) I'm old enough now to have learned a little about life/love/loss and there is just simply NO WAY I'm budging on what I know I want and deserve. And I don't feel that anyone should be happy with "just someone to share life with" ~ what about passion and desire and that wonderful "WOW!" feeling that comes along when we are truly ecstatic about someone? At this stage in my life ~ I do want "it all" and I'm willing to go it alone if I can't find "it all." JMO  | |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 1:48:29 PM |
...and they'll call you 'lucky' to be able to take that cruise. Luck has nothing to do with. When I was a student and walked the extra mile to save 35 cents on a bus ticket...or, even later in life when, even though well off, took my thermos of coffee to work rather than spend a buck on a cup of the stuff.
Ah, the "luck" factor! After being married for 25 years (to a man who couldn't seem to understand the concept of saving money) and then in a relationship for seven years with a man who just couldn't seem to hold a job, I relish taking care of MY money. After my divorce, a bankruptcy, and starting over with nothing, I have managed to reestablish my credit to a very good rating, buy and pay off my car, and buy a house (yes, I have a mortgage).
As a salaried adjunct instructor, I KNOW how much my peers make, yet somehow, they can't seem to manage. One of my friends drives a motorcycle because he can't afford a car. Another lives with his brother because he can't afford a house or apartment of his own. When we are not teaching, we don't get paid, which means NO check in January or June. I hear my peers say that they don't know how they can make it during these months.
I make it by saving AND by working as an adjunct for an online school--I don't make a lot of money at my second job and I could survive without it, but I choose to expend the effort and time in order to have a cushion.
It was not luck that has brought me to where I am. If enrollment at my school(s) went down and I could no longer depend on them for an adequate income, I would seek work elsewhere. Nope, I don't want to EVER work at Walmart again, but I would if I had to. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 6:12:05 PM | | being disabled and on a fixed income is something we may all face in our lifetimes. i am in that position now. i do not pick my dates on who has money or who doesn't. my ex husband and i never had very much but we were happy for many years until he became physically abusive. men with money or without money can still be nasty and abusive. it's the personality that matters to me. what he makes comes next to last in my book, just before "is he breathing, clean and relatively housebroken?" seriously, people fell in love long before money was invented. they fell in love when times were especially hard, like in the depression. they can fall in love now too. money doesn't mean much when you need someone to turn to who is there no matter what and find no one. my ex fiance walked out on me three years ago before one of the hardest things i have had to face in my lifetime, losing my leg. i would have given anything to have had someone to hold my hand and love me through that event. dating is supposed to be something fun you share with another person. why does it have to cost alot? it honestly doesn't. just take the time to research your options. good luck folks! | |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 8:24:47 PM | | Puts me to mind of the classic Monty Python skit...shoebox?, you lived in a shoebox - were were lucky if we had a shoebox to love in! | |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 11:21:17 AM | People in my generation never had to deal with tough economic times until just recently, and really, it's still nothing like the great depression. So we all assumed the good times would keep on rolling. Some spent too much, some went into debt, some bought too much house, some invested in markets that they never took the years required to understand. It's a very, very common story.
My mother's generation that was born around the great depression are savers that always kept their spending low and the amount of money saved was never enough. My aunt owned a 40 room apartment building, she had over 1,000,000 in T-Bills, she would save jelly glasses to use as water glasses. Just the way she grew up.
I know a few things about getting out of debt and making money. It's like losing weight, just because you achieve your goal, get out of debt, have a good income, doesn't mean you can't slip right back in the same old bad habits.
And I know a lot about financial markets, and I always take 100% responsibility for losing money, especially since I know better. IMO if you don't understand your own role in your own financial situation, how are you ever going to make permanent changed for the good? Emotionally it might make you feel better to blame your spouse, or the GOV / economy, but it financially it harms you to not be aware of your own mistakes.
IM experience long term inventing is no more difficult than flying a 747. If you have years of training it's fairly easy if you invest for the long term. And that also meaning at times selling everything, putting it in T-bills and waiting for the shit to settle at the bottom, which takes at least 18-48 months.
Day trading on the other hand is more like playing chess with your enemy while sitting on the front lines of a battle field.
With investing you can't rely on financial advisers / brokers, I have talked to over 300, only 2 I thought were good. I talked to them because I got on a list that is circulated, nothing I can do about stopping them from calling. Most are like the ticket sellers at the airport, they know a lot about how to get on a plane, but nothing about how to fly one.
As far as who has the more tragic story, most stories I have heard including my own, the person who got into trouble had many ways to have avoided it. I say MOST, some of the hardest to avoid are health care related financial problems, but even there while you are healthy and working you can sign up for long term care / excess health insurance. Not that it always works for every situation.
As far as dating others, IMO most hard line opinions are from those who are over compensating for their past mistakes in choosing a marriage partner or live in partner. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 1:19:43 PM |
People in my generation never had to deal with tough economic times until just recently, and really, it's still nothing like the great depression.
Speak for yourself.
Until I was six years old, my family lived in rural Oklahoma. We didn't have running water. My mother finally got a wringer washer but before that, she washed clothes in a pot in the yard. We hauled water out of a well with a bucket and we had an outhouse. My father worked in a distant town and now, the distance would be a daily commute; then, it took hours to drive over the narrow, winding roads, so he came home on weekends. Before than, he did other jobs such as chopping and hauling wood for charcoal. He always worked, but it didn't alleviate the grinding poverty.
When we moved to California, things were better, but it wasn't until workers went on strike (lumber mill) that the workers began to get wages that actually paid the bills.
My father learned to read and write in the CCC in the 1930s. He was a smart man, but he went to work as a boy and never had the opportunity for education; considering this, he did well in his life. My mother went to eighth grade, but she never learned to drive and did not work outside of the home. Even in Calif, I grew up in a low socioeconomic area where everyone was poor; it wasn't until we were bussed to town in sixth grade that we realized what freaks we were.
In the 50s, 60s, and even the 70s, rural areas of Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri and other places were third world "countries." People in ghettos in urban areas had it no better--they did not even have the opportunity to hunt or raise food.
Don't make judgements or statements about others based on your experience. As an adult, I continued to live in the same low socioeconomic area. The last ten years of my marriage were financially comfortable, but early on, there were times when we worried about paying bills because my ex was laid off during the winter. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 2:46:40 PM | gwen,
it wasn't until we were bussed to town in sixth grade that we realized what freaks we were.
With that statement you make my point. Your poverty was the exception, I was speaking about the majority.
Though my father worked in the CCC camps and was an upholster, not a very highly paid profession. If it wasn't for my mother working, we would have never been able to leave the apartment and the city. Though there was good entertainment, we would sit in the living room and watch the fights across the street. They tried to raise chickens in their apartment, and the father and son used to have knife fights. Once I got hit with a pork chop bone from someone throwing it at me as I walked done the street.
I grew up in a bad neighborhood in North Chicago, and when going to school I moved to an even worst neighborhood on the South Side, 54th and Ashland. In that place you don't pick fights because they use shotguns, and I was the minority. I have known, worked with and dated others that are similar to what you describe. When I was a paperboy, there were several men that worked as paper boys, one sleeping in a cart in the office. Or in winter, one guy would commit a minor crime so he could go to jail for the winter.
When I was 20 I worked for a year in a chemical plant where I was one of 2 white guys and the rest black and Mexican. Interesting times. For a while I was working 2 jobs and didn't have a car to sleep in, I tried to sleep on a bench, the police don't like it and people keep waking you up. I hated to waste the time on the bus getting back to my apartment. I didn't last long working 2 full time jobs.
Dated a woman once in Maryland who was the rich one in her family because she could afford teeth. Also dated people in Asia that have dirt floors, no running water and charcoal stoves.
My experience has ranged quite a bit, I am comfortable with people that still have to use ice to keep their food cold to others that currently earn over $250,000 a year.
It's tough to impress me with either riches or poverty. Woobytoodsday story impressed me , I was impressed that she was able to both live in NYC and build her own composting toilet. And I thought you did well for yourself to end your marriage and start out on a new life, you were successful in losing weight and establishing a new career. But you are a bit too combative with mostly men, IMO perhaps overcompensating.
I make statements about the majority because I deem them to be true, the exceptions won't influence me to think otherwise. But I don't judge people till I get to know them personally, everyone has their own burdens. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 4:58:34 PM | I wrote:
it wasn't until we were bussed to town in sixth grade that we realized what freaks we were.
Dragon responded:
With that statement you make my point. Your poverty was the exception, I was speaking about the majority.
Sigh. Again, you assume too much.
When we were bussed into town, it was 50/50 between the more affluent kids and the poor kids. Until then, we were basically segregated. As we went into high school and more students were bussed in, the poor kids were the majority. However, it was the affluent minority that ruled the roost--they were the jocks, the cheerleaders, and the ones who were awarded the white sweaters.
In Oklahoma, poor people who lived in rural areas were the majority--I don't know how the cities were at that time. I did, however, just watch a documentary about the Pruitt-Igoe housing development in St. Louis that was built in 1954. The project was an unmitigated disaster--and it was poverty stricken people who lived there.
But you are a bit too combative with mostly men, IMO perhaps overcompensating.
This made me laugh. I am "combative" (not the word that I would use) with people with whom I disagree: I disagree with things that you say. I find that any time a woman disagrees with SOME men, they find her "combative." In my not so humble opinion, perhaps you are used to compliant women who agree to be agreeing or who are reticent to voice an opinion. My brother-in-law is like this: if I don't agree with what he says, then I am argumentative. My sister gives non-committal replies to him because she says it isn't worth listening to his BS when she disagrees. She smiles and says, "Uh-huh" and goes on with what she is doing.
I won’t stop pointing out what I see as fallacies in your posts—just as you won’t stop pointing out the fallacies that you perceive in my posts. I am not calling you combative because you have rebutted and downplayed everything that I have said! | |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 6:10:03 PM | gwen, you tend to do this more with men than women, just something I notice, maybe I am wrong, what do you think?
If my sister-in-law should call, I seldom disagree with her even though I think she is a biopolar fat slut, but she is a little nuts and I don't want her to focus on me. As an example, when her child was a baby, she slipped tranquilizers into his milk and feed him beer to keep him quiet. This AM a strange woman called the house saying if she (sister-in-law) doesn't stop harrasing her, calling at all times, she is contacting the police. She appealed to me to talk to my brother about it. She does have good days when she is pleasant on the phone. But if somehow I have to talk to her, usually I say "uh-huh". If my brother should divorce her, then it would be easy. Of course, after talking to my brother who doesn't have a job, he says he owes the DMV $250 and has no money, is $123 short in his checking account, so now I have to run around to put money in his account. Or his registration is canceled.
So maybe I had a bad morning and maybe I made a mistake about you being combative, don't have time to think about it right now.
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Posted: 7/5/2012 10:08:21 PM | | A $200,000 income will never make up for a $500 personality. I live below the published poverty line, but that's my choice and the time I spend looking after my 3 year old grand-daughter is priceless. The advantage I think I have is that when I go back to making a modest yet more substantial living I'll be less likely to waste money. There's some truth in the idea that we all meet on the long journey back to the middle. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 4:39:10 AM |
Ready_Real: Well. I guess old English teachers never do retire altogether. To be more specific: message #238 employed direct address to the username of "Welsh." However, username "mjincit" replied to the message (#238) intended specifically for "Welsh" .
Another observation....neither usernames uses the quote feature. Hmmmmm? | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 5:07:37 AM | gwen, regards subservient women, I think those are metaphysical creatures that are rumored to have existed a 100 years ago. Others think that they are an invention of the porn industry.
There have been reports of such creatures spotted in some Asian countries, but I suspect another internet rumor. As I have dated in Thailand and Hong Kong, I would beg to differ with that common myth put forth that Asian women are subservient.
If you google "world's leader in penile reattachment surgeries" you will find Thailand has that distinction.
Then you find the following link.
http://www.thaimedicalnews.com/thai-girls-cut-off-penis-video/2007/12/08/
They have been boiled, fed to ducks, even attached to hot air balloons and cast into the night sky – when it comes to permanently depriving a cheating lover of a recently severed penis, the imagination of the wronged Thai woman knows few bounds.
Not sure if this is a retro or progressive feminism movement. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 5:21:54 AM |
gwen, you tend to do this more with men than women, just something I notice, maybe I am wrong, what do you think?
I think that you spend too much time wondering about what I do and why I do it.
As for submissive women, if you think that they have not existed in the last 100 years, you have never been to a potluck of fundamentalist (or even fairly fundamentalist) Christians or southern women who fill up their husbands' plates for them.
If you google "world's leader in penile reattachment surgeries" you will find Thailand has that distinction.
Cutting off a penis isn't a feminist act: it is an act of desperation on the part of mistreated women. In a sense, it is the ultimate passive/aggressive action. Loreena Bobbit cut off what's his name's penis after he came home drunk and raped her (even though he was acquitted). He had physically and emotionally battered her for years. I imagine the Asian women do not wake up one day and say, "Oh, I think I'll cut off his penis this morning because he didn’t take the trash out yesterday."
Of course, female genital mutilation is rampant in Islam. Girls are most certainly given an option as to whether they want their clitoris chopped off, eh?
You trivialize the status of abused women throughout the world, and you wonder why I protest your claims and statements?
he imagination of the wronged Thai woman knows few bounds.
Oh, yeah? Tell that to the daughter of my deceased best friend—her mother was shot and left to bled to death by her father—another stat in the world of men whose quest to right imagined wrongs knows no bounds.
And you are way off topic—this thread isn’t about my combative nature or penis replacement: it is about dating when one is poor
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Posted: 7/6/2012 8:42:15 AM |
They have been boiled, fed to ducks, even attached to hot air balloons and cast into the night sky – when it comes to permanently depriving a cheating lover of a recently severed penis, the imagination of the wronged Thai woman knows few bounds.
Oh my talk about a woman scorned EEEEK..What is the point in attaching it to some hot air balloons is this some kind of sic ceremony? | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 11:32:16 AM | I'm so damn poor I can barely afford to pay attention, but despite that fact I have noticed that this thread has veered wildly off-topic.
Now I have this horrible visual in my head of a squadron of hot-air balloons dangling severed penises...
Can we please get back to talking about dating on a budget?
Cindy O | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 11:40:00 AM |
...this thread has veered wildly off-topic. Now I have this horrible visual in my head of a squadron of hot-air balloons dangling severed penises...Can we please get back to talking about dating on a budget?
I'm thinking a well-filled helium balloon would get the severed appendage, thus referenced, air borne well enough to take flight. AND I'm certain they are far cheaper than the hot-air balloons. :))) and ;) | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 11:48:23 PM | | i think a lot of the responses are just way off when it comes to money. while i do think that men can be very judgemental about women's socioeconomic status (usually liberal men, cough cough), i think there is something to be said for being with someone who is financially responsible and able to at least take care of themselves. look, money does matter. i don't think money is the root of all evil, but rather, i think the lack of mney is the root of all evil. if you've ever been really broke and just scraping to survive, then yeah, you know how stressful and desperate life can be. it's hardly enjoyable to live with the knowledge that just one unexpected expense (like a costly car repair, or needing a new tire, etc) could possibly cause you to default on a payment or set you back on paying your rent. it isn't enjoyable to live this way, and really, only those that have money can say that money doesn't matter. that sort of attitude is very waspy-middle class. that being said, people should be able to take care of themselves and demonstrate some interest in creating wealth - at least from my perspective - this is what i look for in a partner. i want to make lots of money, and i'd like to be with someone that is interested in being successful as well. i don't need to be with someone that is rich, and i don't need someone to pay my way. but i do need someone that has similar financial goals as i do. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 11:58:26 PM |
i do think that men can be very judgemental about women's socioeconomic status (usually liberal men, cough cough),
Apparently they are no more judgemental about it than some conservative women. (lol)
May I offer you some cough drops ? | |
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Posted: 7/7/2012 9:45:04 AM | Ms. larissan04 wrote:
i don't think money is the root of all evil, but rather, i think the lack of mney is the root of all evil. if you've ever been really broke and just scraping to survive, then yeah, you know how stressful and desperate life can be.
True, money is not the root of all evil, money is just a tool allowing individuals or groups to reach a particular end. It is the LOVE of money that causes the problems. Whether your love for money causes you to spend as if there was no tomorrow or hoard to the exclusion of all else, it is our relationship with this tool that can so influence how we relate to others.
Son's mom was a case in point. She followed her dad's example and tried to squeeze the last breath from each penny. To a degree that is good (i.e., I'm still driving the truck I bought in 2000: looks great, runs better, meets my needs - wish it got better mpg) but when squeezing a cent denies your partner pleasure, causes you to buy crap that doesn't last, and otherwise interferes with a life with others, you've wasted the blessings a tool like money can bring.
On the other hand I've known folk who have no concept of the value of money, esp. if it comes from others. Setting aside the profligate waste of most of our elected officials (Calif. [and then the Fed] approved spending billions of scarce taxpayer's earnings on high speed rail!!!) I am currently in the midst of extricating myself from a business situation in which the developer must have mistakingly thought he was Congress the way he was spending funds without sufficient due diligence and with little regard for the bottom line. My only chance of redemption is to take over the project and apply some common sense and fiscal stewardship.
Personally, I like people with money. They are the engine of the economy. As has been said many times in other venues, poor people do not create jobs. When I was poor I either did it myself or did without. I had very little to give to help others, and I certainly did not have the were with all to invest in opportunities that would provide others with jobs and would ultimately benefit others with fewer blessings.
One other area I disagree with Ms. l is her take that it's the lack of money is the root of all evil. When I was poor, in material wealth, my lack of funds did not cause me to commit crimes or other evil acts. Again, it is our relationship to material things (i.e., the love of money) that will cause us to sin against others. If it was the lack of money that causes evil acts then people like Mr. Madoff and other rich folk would not exist.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 9:51:07 AM | | ^^^^Then I guess you've never heard of a mother turning tricks and stealing food just to put a roof over her children's head and food in their mouth? | |
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Posted: 7/7/2012 10:05:35 AM | Ms. luv,
It wasn't the lack of money that caused the woman to enter into a line of work I consider shameful, it was her lack of self respect.
There are plenty of other opportunities to put food on the table other than selling your body to the cheapest bidder. Her choice puts not only her health and welfare at risk it endangers her children.
We could go round and round on this issue, but people make their own decisions. Is it justified to steal bread to feed your family. Or stated another way, are permitted to impoverish others to elevate ourselves? My answer, of course, is NO! Yet it is this thinking that has fueled the ignominious slide of the United States into poverty.
By justifying one's poor behavior due to circumstances we demote our fellow travelers to less than animals with no morals.
Are there no churches? Are there no food banks? Are there no friends and families?
I don't know about you, but I give and/or assist all three. I hope and pray that others do too.
TK | |
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Posted: 7/7/2012 10:44:48 AM | ^^^ I hear what your saying and completely agree with you.....however, one of my biggested downfalls (if that's what you can call it) is being able to see "both sides of the story"....and all I'm saying is sometimes desperate people do desperate things.
Imagine a mother that has a couple of kids that hasn't had anything to eat....there is a guy that is offering money right then in exchange for sex. She might NOT have have family or friends that can help her. So in alot of way's I think wat she was saying is true...LACK of money is the root of evil. But I do get what your saying...and like I said, I agree. There's just a lot of really sad situations out there imo | |
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Posted: 7/7/2012 10:47:48 AM |
It wasn't the lack of money that caused the woman to enter into a line of work I consider shameful, it was her lack of self respect.
There are plenty of other opportunities to put food on the table other than selling your body to the cheapest bidder. Her choice puts not only her health and welfare at risk it endangers her children.
We could go round and round on this issue, but people make their own decisions. Is it justified to steal bread to feed your family. Or stated another way, are permitted to impoverish others to elevate ourselves? My answer, of course, is NO! Yet it is this thinking that has fueled the ignominious slide of the United States into poverty.
By justifying one's poor behavior due to circumstances we demote our fellow travelers to less than animals with no morals.
Are there no churches? Are there no food banks? Are there no friends and families?
I don't know about you, but I give and/or assist all three. I hope and pray that others do too.
How many food banks have you been to? How many churches? How often have you stood in line to get food for your children?
Until you have been there with hungry kids you have no clue what a mother will do to feed her kids--and yes I have done all of that--and no i didn't whore myself out--not much of a call for a bald slightly green tinted woman going thru chemo--assuming cause you give to a church or even better the American Cancer Society that the aid gets to those in need is just wrong to use as a base to JUDGE others.
Friends and family have to have more then you do to help you, don't they?--well one of the things about society is when a woman has difficulty at times she becomes isolated from her friends and family--I was living 4 hours away in a town I had only been in 3 years. The churches here were so great but yanno they had this thing that different churches would give out food certain days--in different parts of town--so you had to get there (gas isnt cheap) and then wait in line and hope that by the time it was your turn there was actually edible food left. So at times I had to have a 4 hour chemo session in the morning and then stand in line to get food for my kids when the doctor has said to go straight home and not expose myself to anyone for fear Id catch something since my immune system was so weak.
When I was going thru cancer--the American Cancer Society told me that the only amount of support they could give me was $75 toward my $100 electric bill and a wig that had never been styled--it was very nice to be in their building with their extremely rich looking furnishings and all the cars in the driveway were brand new and everyone walking around in their nice suits--that made the trip so worth while; knowing I had a day to come up with $25.00; so i took all my jewerly to a pawn shop--talk about someone stealing something!
Again people want to believe if you do everything right that nothing bad is going to happen to you--just because nothing bad has happened to some doesn't mean that others haven't had the bottom fall out of their world. I do not support the claim that women turn to selling their bodies to the cheapest bidder but as a mother I can understand why one might. I know I wouldn't ever consider judging someone for anything they did if they have reach that low of a point in life. --you consider shameful--you should feel the shame when you look in the mirror! She wasn't stealing bread, which is impoverish others to elevate--she was using the only thing she had left to provide for her kids. Keep looking at the world with your rose colored glasses and passing judgement on what is shameful -- and pray to god one day you never really need help.
I have never been so humbled as I was then; when random acts of kindness from strangers helped lift my life up--I still cry over what people did for me then--and I try to help as many people as I can--I dont give to organizations so the people working there can have a good life style I actively seek out those in need--you continue to feel so great about your giving when you have no clue that what you give ever gets to those who need it and keep on judging something you could never possibility understand. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2012 11:02:56 AM | Baloney:
Poverty is no excuse for poor behavior...whether it's theft, dealing drugs or selling one's body. It's an insult to the hundreds of millions who have been or are poor and but still 'do the right thing' to get by in life.
How often have you stood in line to get food for your children?
Zero. I'm sure however that the women I know would stand in line a thousand times before they'd sell their bodies. You might prefer to sell you body than stand in line but the women I know wouldn't. | |
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Posted: 7/7/2012 11:07:25 AM | Luckly, I've never been in a situation where my kid's had to go hungry.....BUT if I had ever been faced with that situation...I probably would have done just about anything it took.. to keep my kid's from going hungry...even if it was against my moral code.
And I agree with Giggles....I don't think there is as much help out there as people think there is.
ETA: Anyone that know's me will tell you if there is ONE thing I despise that would be a thief. I have never stolen a thing from anyone. But again....when you start thinking about all the people out there that can't even make ends meat to feed their family or pay the light bill.....it's easier to understand why they would resort to doing desperate acts. | |
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