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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/5/2012 1:10:32 AM | sigh.. can't even ask a question without being harassed constantly...
even i was skeptical about posting this one. only did it to find out the truth asap.
since when did a free thinking person become classified as a nut job? nice nursing skills... drag me to a shrink so they can medicate me heavily regardless of my condition. i've taken myself off fluoride, aspartame & fast food so i'm a very healthy & fully functioning 34 male tyvm.
you do realize that all the flu shots you give out have thimerosal in them, a mercury–based preservative? According to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world’s leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our times , if an individual has had five flu shots between 1970 and 1980 (the years studied) their chances of getting Alzheimer’s Disease is 10 times higher than if they had one, two or no shots. When asked why this was so, Fudenberg said it was due to the mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot (and most childhood shots). The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction.
this has also linked to the skyrocketing increase of autism in children. in 1984 it was 1 in 10000 kids got the disease. now it's 1 in 54 for boys, 1 in 252 for girls.
sorry to change the subject but this proves that sometimes people find certain things hard to believe and dismiss it as tin foil hat syndrome without even doing any investigating at all. i think this is because when they're too close to an issue they just accept what they're told & move on. even if they're shown first hand info they'll just deny it, rejecting any notion that's going to disrupt their way of thinking & that's that. it's sad really...
we can go back & forth all day. let's just conclude that you have your opinion & i have mine & just let each other live the life they want to live. sound fair? | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/5/2012 1:26:02 AM | | I read your profile, and most of the information is very informative and accurate , as I have read and discussed a lot of the said subjects with many other people locally and across the world really, through forums, and sites... Strangely enough, I am in Saskatoon to,lol... | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/5/2012 2:28:08 AM | What's probably more disturbing is that all these 'conspiracy' web sites bought it, 'hook, line and sinker' and republished it.
Even if they are right some times about certain things (not saying they are) it just discredits them even further.
If ALL alternative media sources become tarred with the same brush then the majority will just look to mainstream media for news and that's really scary because there would be no balance.......unless you believe mainstream isn't somewhat 'controlled' then it's no biggy   | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/5/2012 3:01:41 AM | | Everything should be subject to open investigation. So finding another angle in any event, which happens to be very obvious mostly, shouldn't be labeled as a 'Conspiracy Theory'. It is foolish to call something a Conspiracy Theory when there is mountains of evidence to prove it. Infact the whole campaign of labeling every effort to uncover truth as a 'conspiracy theory' is deliberate and aims to make people believe what they want them to, because after all you're talking conspiracy theory and that makes u INSANE...... | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/5/2012 1:29:35 PM | since when did a free thinking person become classified as a nut job?
When "free thinker" is used to describe the uncritical acceptance of every vaguely possible "alternative explanation"...
To put it slightly more clearly, when the youthful "wouldn't it be neat if ... were actually true"/"wouldn't it be scary if ... were actually true" mental exercises become "OMG, look what 'they' are doing/hiding, be afraid, be very afraid"...
The first ("wouldn't it be cool/scary if...") is 'free thinking', the second ("OMG,... be very afraid") is delusional...
In the future, try presenting your thought experiments AS thought experiments rather than doom-saying "conspiracy theories" (in other words, as an idea of what COULD be possible, however vaguely, instead of a real/highly probable/proven 'truth') and you might get a lot less flak about being an unthinking, uncritical, gullible "conspiracy theorist"...
"Conspiracy theorists" don't differentiate between 'possible' and 'likely' and run around screeching about all the 'evil possibilities' as if they were 'likely'... "Free thinkers" have a clear understanding of the two and are clear about the 'possible'/'likely' nature of their thought experiments...
Here is a 'guidepost' from back in the day... Thor Heyerdahl and his "kon-tiki" speculations... he went to great lengths to test them for 'possibility' and established that but was never able to establish 'likely'... It made for great SPECULATIVE thought but never rose to the level of great SCIENTIFIC thought.. despite that many people came to swear up and down that he had 'proven' his speculations and became convinced that mainstream non-acceptance was prima facie evidence of scientific conspiracy to bury 'free thinking'... The ones who understood it as speculative and said 'hey that's a neat idea, if you can prove it' were the free-thinkers... the ones who were convinced that 'mainstream science' was conspiring to keep his ideas from being accepted were the "conspiracy theorists"...
A free thinker questions everything but accepts little without clear, verifiable, independent PROOF... That's NOT what has been demonstrated in these threads you complain about everyone beating you up over... | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/5/2012 2:41:44 PM | ^^^^^^^ Some extremely good advice here too. You have to examine your information. The Internet so full of bad advice and extreme nonsense. Its also full of old information and past controversies that have been put to bed.
For instance the stuff you just posted.
you do realize that all the flu shots you give out have thimerosal in them, a mercury–based preservative? According to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world’s leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our times , if an individual has had five flu shots between 1970 and 1980 (the years studied) their chances of getting Alzheimer’s Disease is 10 times higher than if they had one, two or no shots. When asked why this was so, Fudenberg said it was due to the mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot (and most childhood shots). The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction.
this has also linked to the skyrocketing increase of autism in children. in 1984 it was 1 in 10000 kids got the disease. now it's 1 in 54 for boys, 1 in 252 for girls.
This has all been refuted. See the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal_controversy
As for Hugh Fudenberg, MD, he was discredited and his license revoked. See below.
http://www.casewatch.org/board/med/fudenberg/1995order.shtml
We also had the fluoride people here in town a few months ago. After city council spent some time and sought medical advice- their push to eliminate fluoridation was shot down based on lots of flawed evidence they presented. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/5/2012 4:16:26 PM |
In November 1995, the South Carolina medical board found Fudenberg "guilty of engaging in dishonorable, unethical, or unprofessional conduct," fined him $10,000, ordered him to surrender his license to prescribe controlled substances (narcotic drugs), and placed his license on indefinite suspension. The Board's order, shown below, said that he could apply for probationary status if he underwent a neuropsychiatric examination and was judged capable of practicing medicine safely. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/5/2012 6:09:35 PM | ^^^^^
I would say the congruity is quite high actually since we are on an internet board and really have no other way to communicate. My sources also have citations or links to other sources. Wikipedia does a fair job of background checks. Sometimes stuff does get on it that is later removed and they highlight articles that have not been verified. Or was that a joke? Sorry I missed it.
Well if you need more here's one that shows pictures of paper documents. Above that I'll have to ask folks to do their own footwork- if you have the time and money. Just like online dating, you have to weed through some stuff to get to the good and real ones. Good critical think skills and a lucid mind also help.
http://briandeer.com/wakefield/hugh-fudenberg.htm | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/6/2012 10:44:03 AM | "The US Congress cannot make you put anything on the flag for any reason w/o an amendment to the Constitution. You have the right of free expresson. You can't be forced to say anything, even symbolically, you don't want to say--not with your flag, your mouth, on paper, etc. Anyway, it's totally bizarre that the US Congress would vote for such a thing. "
Really?
Given some actual bills PASSED by Congress in recent times, most notably 2300 pages of insurance requirements falsely labled as health care, passed in the middle of the night in closed session, with no member having read the document, we now know that our government CAN force us to do absurd things, and most Americans will sip their Kool-aid and smile. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/6/2012 11:53:04 AM | A person's freedom to speak usually includes the freedom *not* to speak--but not always. A state law can force a private owner of a shopping mall that's open to the public to allow speech there that the owner disagrees with. So a group could pass out lefalets in the parking lot calling for heroin and cocaine to be made legal, no matter how strongly the owner of the mall was opposed to making them legal, and even if he believed shoppers associated what the leaflets said with his mall.
As for GreenThumbz18, I hope the authorities notice your negative attitude. The health of all the people is the concern of all the people. Reactionary thinking like yours needs to be eliminated from the collective consciousness. There is no room for anti-social elements who oppose what the masterminds know is best for all of us. Someday soon, I hope we will have camps where these dissident elements can be sent for corrective education. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/6/2012 12:55:58 PM |
Someday soon, I hope we will have camps where these dissident elements can be sent for corrective education.
No need to worry. If the conservatives get their way with privatization of public education, the wealthy will be deciding the curriculum and what corrective education will be necessary. Here is a preview of what is coming:
http://abytesgen01.securesites.net/ryan_murdock/2009/11/inside-the-north-korean-school.html
Instead of American GIs, the school children will be drawing pictures of killing liberals. Instead of pictures of the Dear Leader hanging on the walls, here in the United States pictures of Washington and Lincoln will be switched out for pictures of Charles and David Koch. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/7/2012 2:16:36 PM | thanks for your concern Blade, but i'm good.
personally i've only been awake for 3 years & i'm at a disadvantage of learning on the fly, but learning none the less. how can i mislabel myself as a free thinker as i make everyday decisions on my own without having to contact god, a spouse, my boss, any of my friends, the government or even the TV? isn't that how a free thinker is supposed to behave? take in info & make the best possible decision based on the evidence available until proven otherwise? even if every thing i do is the same as everybody else around me because we think it's right, by living in that perfect society would i not lose my claim as a free thinker?
i do read a lot & sorry if my opinions tend to mirror the articles i put up here. i'm just trying to make a point with them since everybody is demanding proof every single time. for example, i'm sorry if i believe someone like Max Keiser for financial advice over anybody on here. granted the guy is a lil off the wall about various subjects but it just makes sense to pay attention when the man when he's speaking about money & the financial state of the world.
for the sake of argument, perhaps i should label myself as open minded then. i try to see things from different angles, but at some point you need to take a stand on the issues. i'm not saying i can't bend on them, more like sway. that way i get to keep my perspective on the issue while leaving the door open to the possibility of a new point of view. i'm not talking Mittens Romney swaying either. that guy's a rubber tree; i'm more like a popular. i honestly try to take the time to read & think about what each of you say yet i don't get the same amount of respect at all which is fine. some people need time to soften to an issue. others will never change. those that will change are already looking into it.
i've said no less than 3 times that i was just asking a question in this post. even i don't believe they'd do that. from what i find, the government would have given at least 3-6 month warning before doing something with the flag. just like SISPA, SOPA, NDAA, etc there would be outrage at first. then a month goes by... then a sports show or Jersey Shore/Dancing w/ the stars would come on.... lil by lil everyone would lose steam & either forget about it completely or just fall in line saying "oh it's not so bad..." sorry i'm just not the type to go along to get along over the big things.
once again - i posted the thread AS A QUESTION when i was at work wanting to know the truth. when i got home, i tracked down the original article & it said in big capital letters SATIRE. whom ever reposted the article mislead the readers & i corrected myself on here already. but is it really that unbelievable that the States would show it's loyalty to Israel when they are going to war with them soon? does Israel not heavily influence the UN who in turn give orders to Obama to bomb without congress's consent ( march 8 2012)? look at the list of Jewish people who own, operate & control vital parts of the USA & tell me that this thread doesn't start to make sense.
1. Ben Bernanke: Chairman of the private Jew-owned Federal Reserve Bank. Term ends 2020.
2. Lloyd Blankfein: CEO of Goldman Sachs Bank of NY. Goldman Sachs is one of the owners of the Federal Reserve Bank consortium, made up of 8 banks, the House of Rothschild being the principal owner.
3. Harvey Krueger: Chairman of Lehman Brothers Bank of NY. Lehman Brothers is one of the owners of the Federal Reserve Bank consortium, made up of 8 banks, the House of Rothschild being the principal owner.
4. Michael Chertoff: Secretary of US Homeland Security. Chertoff is the son of an Orthodox rabbi. A dual-citizen of both Israel & America. Guess which nation the Jew Chertoff’s first loyalty is to? Chertoff is chief architect of the North American Union Plan and the Orwellian Real ID Card.
5. Howard Kohr: Executive Director of the most powerful lobby group in the world, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). AIPAC is made up of both Republican and Democratic Jews who have one single purpose -to secure Jewish-control of the world.
6. Malcolm Hoenlein: Executive Chairman of the second most powerful lobby group in the world, the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. Has 50 (!) Jewish member organizatons under him.
7. Abraham Foxman: Executive Director of the third most powerful lobby group in the world, B’nai Brith’s Anti Defamation League (ADL).
8. Norman Podhoretz: Key member of The Project for the New American Century, a Jewish ‘think tank’ (jew-lobby), dedicated “to promoting America’s dominance globally.” (Translate: ‘Promoting Jewish dominance’).
from 1999 - Jew Dominance since 1929
http://www.rense.com/general59/sdom.htm
-for the record i'm not against Jews or anybody else for that matter. most of the elite & controlling Jews are probably Zionists which is way different than being Jewish. then again, most are Freemasons too which is a contradiction to their Jewish religion. then there's the difference between being Jewish vs Hebrew... sigh i need another thread for this... | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/7/2012 7:49:34 PM |
how can i mislabel myself as a free thinker as i make everyday decisions on my own without having to contact god, a spouse, my boss, any of my friends, the government or even the TV? isn't that how a free thinker is supposed to behave? take in info & make the best possible decision based on the evidence available until proven otherwise?
Philosophically this makes you the opposite of a freethinker. Freethinkers consume information from everywhere and then make the best possible decision. And I think this is your problem. You've decided that media is always wrong and conspiracy theories or alternative news sources such as infowars are always correct and that's that. That's not free thought. For example, if you had consulted your boss, your friends, or your spouse, or anyone who you consider sharp, or Google, or any real news channel in the days before the 4th, they all would have told you that there's no way in hell the States is putting a star of David on their flag anytime soon.
It kind of reminds me of people who think music, real music, is only found on the indie scene. It absolutely kills them when amazing talent passes by the radio waves every day. Same with film. I've known people who suffer through "8 1/2" on an annual basis to remind them of what real film is while missing the beauties of Hollywood simply because they were produced by jews in southern California. Speaking of which...
from 1999 - Jew Dominance since 1929
http://www.rense.com/general59/sdom.htm
-for the record i'm not against Jews or anybody else for that matter. most of the elite & controlling Jews are probably Zionists which is way different than being Jewish
How in the free thinking world can you quote an article that describes America as having the same jewish problem Germany had before world war two and claim you're not against jews? You're becoming a scary one now. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/7/2012 8:14:31 PM | no good doctor, it is you that is wrong
Definition of FREETHINKER from merriam-webster.com
: one who forms opinions on the basis of reason independently of authority
you're confusing free thinker with open mindedness.
to be open minded is to take in information from various sources.
to be wise would consider these other opinions
to be logical would be to do what you know is right regardless of what others say
i think you numbed your brain up on that glacier today good sir, but i do agree with you though that the USA were never going to put an Israel patch on their flag. that's because it will be replaced by the North American Union flag - as well as our Canadian flag - in the very near future.
thank you. come again
ps.
the link was to show Jewish influence since the peeps want proof. nothing more | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/7/2012 8:41:19 PM |
Definition of FREETHINKER from merriam-webster.com
: one who forms opinions on the basis of reason independently of authority
Uh huh. So you've passed the open minded stage in your intellectual journey,the collection of knowledge and opinons, and now you're forming opinons based on your own thought? So you're not really just spewing forth the crazy stuff people with websites make up for fun and attention? So when someone says...."The USA is putting the star of David on their flag"...you've consulted enough information and gathered enough knowledge in your life to say, "Ya, that seems like something that might actually happen."? Gotcha.
i think you numbed your brain up on that glacier today
Yep. No doubt. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/7/2012 9:18:23 PM | Definition of FREETHINKER from merriam-webster.com
: one who forms opinions on the basis of reason independently of authority
And yet... you are using an authority to affirm your independence of authority...
to be open minded is to take in information from various sources.
to be wise would consider these other opinions
to be logical would be to do what you know is right regardless of what others say
Well... at least now we can see more clearly where you are "going wrong"... I'll give you a little "push start" on sussing this out...
"to do what you know is right regardless of what others say" is NOT logical thinking... it's actually called "being moral/ethical"...
being logical is "using logic" (which, unfortunately, requires things like 'facts' and 'reason' and 'proof'... you know, those things which conspiracy theories tend to be seriously lacking in)...
You may also want to look into just what is required to be considered 'wise'... | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/8/2012 4:09:32 AM | i'm sorry. i must be using too many words for some of you to understand. let me make it simpler for you:
i don't believe the Israel flag will be on USA flag. never did. i only ask a question.
still too much? sorry let me slow down further -
north..... american.... union....
USA flag... bye... bye...
understand yet or do i need to break out the arrows & colored pictures for y'all? | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/8/2012 8:25:27 AM | So you're not really just spewing forth the crazy stuff people with websites make up for fun and attention? So when someone says...."The USA is putting the star of David on their flag"...you've consulted enough information and gathered enough knowledge in your life to say, "Ya, that seems like something that might actually happen."?
Interesting thing is that all of the websites the free thinking "CS" got his information from "accidentally" left out one crucial fact about that article.
That is the beginning, where the author CLEARLY states the word "SATIRE" right from the start.
And their (crazy websites) intent was obviously to misinform all of those paranoid and delusional "free thinkers" by leading them around by the nose.
Free thinking implies THINKING. It does not mean believing only those things you want to believe regardless of them being true or not.
still too much? sorry let me slow down further -
north..... american.... union....
USA flag... bye... bye...
understand yet or do i need to break out the arrows & colored pictures for y'all?
Oh would you oh wise one?
Perty pitures two? | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/8/2012 12:45:49 PM |
Saw this at work. Passing it on. Is this legit?
Congress passed a bill that requires Americans to put the Star of David on the flag during the week of July 4th. usmediaandisrael.com/?p=475 ZION# This satire is for suckers who are dying to believe the worst at every turn.
So if everybody is so gung ho on what the American flag means to them, how come none of you are fighting to keep the freedoms and sovereignty your forefathers fought so hard to establish in the first place? How many executive orders is Obama going to be allowed before he declares martial law & suspends the constitution forever? It's closer to happening then you are lead to believe... enjoy your holiday USA What kind of nonsense is this? Who starts a conversation by attacking strangers you know nothing about for not doing [something] that you personally feel is necessary? You're not looking for discourse, you're looking to provoke.
Nice try, joker. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th
Posted: 7/8/2012 1:34:41 PM | MSG 28: The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction.
Sorry to hear about that, CST, but thanks for "sharing." That really does explain things. I think we are all more sympathetic with your plight. 
MSG 24: How many executive orders is Obama going to be allowed before he declares martial law & suspends the constitution forever?
Well, so far he has issued 127 Executive Orders.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/obama.html
George W. signed 291 during his two terms (USA Nat'l Archives).
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/wbush.html
MSG 24: How many executive orders is Obama going to be allowed before he declares martial law & suspends the constitution forever?
You mean like George W. Bush supposedly did in 2006?
I think you need to "catch up" on your conspiracy theory reading. Your hysteria is old news. George W. Bush was accused of imposing martial law in 2006:
President George W. Bush has signed executive orders giving him sole authority to impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus and ignore the Posse Comitatus Act that prohibits deployment of U.S. troops on American streets. This would give him absolute dictatorial power over the government with no checks and balances.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/martial_law_bush_signed_martial_law_order.htm
In spite of your attempts to diss Americans as idiots, I believe your false info campaign regarding this topic will go down the tubes. And the self-imposed hysteria about impending martial law will do the same (much as it did in 2006).
But thanks for bringing this to our attention! 
Now, please lay off the caffeinated beverages. Thanks!  | |
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