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| | USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 thPage 3 of 4 (1, 2, 3, 4) | Definition of FREETHINKER from merriam-webster.com : one who forms opinions on the basis of reason independently of authority
 And yet... you are using an authority to affirm your independence of authority...
to be open minded is to take in information from various sources. to be wise would consider these other opinions to be logical would be to do what you know is right regardless of what others say
 Well... at least now we can see more clearly where you are "going wrong"... I'll give you a little "push start" on sussing this out...
"to do what you know is right regardless of what others say" is NOT logical thinking... it's actually called "being moral/ethical"...
being logical is "using logic" (which, unfortunately, requires things like 'facts' and 'reason' and 'proof'... you know, those things which conspiracy theories tend to be seriously lacking in)...
You may also want to look into just what is required to be considered 'wise'... | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/8/2012 4:09:32 AM | i'm sorry. i must be using too many words for some of you to understand. let me make it simpler for you:
i don't believe the Israel flag will be on USA flag. never did. i only ask a question.
still too much? sorry let me slow down further - north..... american.... union.... USA flag... bye... bye...
understand yet or do i need to break out the arrows & colored pictures for y'all? | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/8/2012 8:25:27 AM | So you're not really just spewing forth the crazy stuff people with websites make up for fun and attention? So when someone says...."The USA is putting the star of David on their flag"...you've consulted enough information and gathered enough knowledge in your life to say, "Ya, that seems like something that might actually happen."?
Interesting thing is that all of the websites the free thinking "CS" got his information from "accidentally" left out one crucial fact about that article. That is the beginning, where the author CLEARLY states the word "SATIRE" right from the start. And their (crazy websites) intent was obviously to misinform all of those paranoid and delusional "free thinkers" by leading them around by the nose. Free thinking implies THINKING. It does not mean believing only those things you want to believe regardless of them being true or not.
still too much? sorry let me slow down further - north..... american.... union.... USA flag... bye... bye...
understand yet or do i need to break out the arrows & colored pictures for y'all?
Oh would you oh wise one? Perty pitures two? | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/8/2012 12:45:49 PM |
Saw this at work. Passing it on. Is this legit?
Congress passed a bill that requires Americans to put the Star of David on the flag during the week of July 4th. usmediaandisrael.com/?p=475 ZION# This satire is for suckers who are dying to believe the worst at every turn.
So if everybody is so gung ho on what the American flag means to them, how come none of you are fighting to keep the freedoms and sovereignty your forefathers fought so hard to establish in the first place? How many executive orders is Obama going to be allowed before he declares martial law & suspends the constitution forever? It's closer to happening then you are lead to believe... enjoy your holiday USA What kind of nonsense is this? Who starts a conversation by attacking strangers you know nothing about for not doing [something] that you personally feel is necessary? You're not looking for discourse, you're looking to provoke.
Nice try, joker. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/8/2012 1:34:41 PM | MSG 28: The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction.
Sorry to hear about that, CST, but thanks for "sharing." That really does explain things. I think we are all more sympathetic with your plight. 
MSG 24: How many executive orders is Obama going to be allowed before he declares martial law & suspends the constitution forever?
Well, so far he has issued 127 Executive Orders.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/obama.html
George W. signed 291 during his two terms (USA Nat'l Archives).
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/wbush.html
MSG 24: How many executive orders is Obama going to be allowed before he declares martial law & suspends the constitution forever?
You mean like George W. Bush supposedly did in 2006?
I think you need to "catch up" on your conspiracy theory reading. Your hysteria is old news. George W. Bush was accused of imposing martial law in 2006:
President George W. Bush has signed executive orders giving him sole authority to impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus and ignore the Posse Comitatus Act that prohibits deployment of U.S. troops on American streets. This would give him absolute dictatorial power over the government with no checks and balances.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/martial_law_bush_signed_martial_law_order.htm
In spite of your attempts to diss Americans as idiots, I believe your false info campaign regarding this topic will go down the tubes. And the self-imposed hysteria about impending martial law will do the same (much as it did in 2006).
But thanks for bringing this to our attention! 
Now, please lay off the caffeinated beverages. Thanks!  | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/8/2012 2:28:25 PM | Here's another link warning that President Clinton was planning to declare martial law on the eve of Y2K:
Clinton will impose Martial Law on Dec. 28, 1999
I would not be surprised if this is true. They won't dare do it on or before christmas. Then I hear a special foreces guy said the Feds may have a hard time closing all highways, bridges within 45 minutes, maybe 72 hours after declaring martial law. If you have not left town, pack up by the 27th with enough gas. Get all the maps and AAA tour book you need with telephone numbers of all the cities. That way, you can call up the towns ahead of you to see if the road ahead is blocked, assuming the phone works. I think they will control the major cities first. What do you think? Can someone call to verify this news?
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001xWT
Dude - you are really falling behind on the "upheaval of society as we know it" bandwagon!  | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/8/2012 2:38:03 PM |
I think you need to "catch up" on your conspiracy theory reading. Your hysteria is old news. George W. Bush was accused of imposing martial law in 2006
It is not really the OP's fault. What we are seeing here is a direct result of Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, the Tea Party, and the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision. This type of thinking will become much more common. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/8/2012 2:42:59 PM | Almost as bad as that terrible dictator Abe Lincoln. He suspended habeas when it was far from clear the Constitution gave a president any authority to do that. That meant that where the Union armies were in control, the general in command could do pretty much whatever he thought was necessary to keep the locals in line. And not surprisingly, these men took a dim view of Northerners who agitated for the Confederacy.
An editor might have soldiers break down the doors to his newspaper and destroy everything there. Troops sometimes arrested private citizens at home in the middle of the night and hauled them off to a brig. If they got any trial, it was a brief affair conducted by a military commission, with no jury--and some were sentenced to death. In one case, it was only a Supreme Court decision that saved one of these disloyal citizens from the gallows.
and the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision.
I've read Citizens United. You've never read a page of it, and what you've said about it makes very clear you don't understand the issues involved. So instead of offering your own analysis of the decision, all you have done is recite the leftist party line about it. Why a thinking person should give that any weight, I don't know. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/8/2012 6:26:30 PM |
Why a thinking person should give that any weight, I don't know.
Your petty little responses are not worthy of my time. None-the-less, I'll honor you with thirty seconds.
What would you know about thinking, Matchlight. It is obvious you respond to these threads by rote from script supplied by your employer. What does that pay? Not much is my guess. And I do hope you are indeed getting paid something for the hours and hours you spend online servicing the interests of the wealthy. If not, then you should get up off your knees and go find someone to service who actually will pay you. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/8/2012 9:54:33 PM | | Wooo this post has become the war of words and ideologies,lol...All I want to know is what people think, about the hundreds of Fema Camps, and command centres sprouting up all around the U.S. ,lol.... | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/9/2012 12:05:34 AM | All I want to know is what people think, about the hundreds of Fema Camps, and command centres sprouting up all around the U.S. ,lol....
I find it very suspicious that is "all you want to know." Why aren't you voicing yor concern about FEMA crossing the border to set up housekeeping by building concentration camps in Canada? Holy cow!?!? One is near you at Primrose Lake Air Range:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoQtM-p4-_4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
All of Canada's military installations have been set up for the purpose of performing FEMA's well known personality transplants:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8En_mn2AF0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I do wonder why Canadians are being targeted for personality transplants, eh? 
This will help all Canadians prepare for inevitable internment:
http://sask-preppers.weebly.com/big-brother.html
Good luck, you guys. It looks like they are coming for Canadians, first! :bye;
I have received numerous reports from Canadians of RUSSIAN TROOPS arriving a major airports in Canada, including ABBOTTSFORD, BC, and LETHBRIDGE, Alberta, CA.
Canadians have told me also of sightings of PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES, including those evidently from GUNDERSON STEEL OF PORTLAND OREGON, painted UN WHITE and heading far north into BC from Portland, OR. Previously, photographs of these boxcars were sighted on the Internet, but later they could not be found. They were allegedly taken far north, to a FORT RICHARDSON (or RICHARDS?) in BC.
http://americanholocaustcoming.blogspot.com/2009/08/nwomartial-law-warnings-for-canadians.html?m=1 | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/9/2012 12:42:35 AM |
I find it very suspicious that is "all you want to know." Why aren't you voicing yor concern about FEMA crossing the border to set up housekeeping by building concentration camps in Canada? Holy cow!?!? One is near you at Primrose Lake Air Range:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoQtM-p4-_4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
All of Canada's military installations have been set up for the purpose of performing FEMA's well known personality transplants:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8En_mn2AF0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I do wonder why Canadians are being targeted for personality transplants, eh?
This will help all Canadians prepare for inevitable internment:
http://sask-preppers.weebly.com/big-brother.html
Good luck, you guys. It looks like they are coming for Canadians, first! :bye;
I have received numerous reports from Canadians of RUSSIAN TROOPS arriving a major airports in Canada, including ABBOTTSFORD, BC, and LETHBRIDGE, Alberta, CA.
Canadians have told me also of sightings of PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES, including those evidently from GUNDERSON STEEL OF PORTLAND OREGON, painted UN WHITE and heading far north into BC from Portland, OR. Previously, photographs of these boxcars were sighted on the Internet, but later they could not be found. They were allegedly taken far north, to a FORT RICHARDSON (or RICHARDS?) in BC.
Wow, I do enjoy your perspective on the situation,lol...Yes I am more interested in the strange set ups in my own country, I just mentioned the U.S, as Canada is usually a second thought,lol....First, second third, I am not sure the order matters,lol....I can verify second hand accounts of Russian Soldiers in Lethbridge, AB, from numerous friends I know their, who have witnessed them first hand...I have herd of most of what you have provided, and I hope it does make people at the very least think, why....Never mind the have an infection control centre, here in the city, which I frequent,lol, regularly, and there are some out of the ordinary activities happening recently, recently meaning the last 5 months,lol, so not sure if that becomes regular activities and personnel now,lol.... | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/9/2012 12:53:03 AM | After reading the forums and noticing that many Canadians attempt to draw attention to political issues in the USA, I have to wonder if these parties represent a cadre of "mind controlled" forces who may be on a mission from the Canadian government to distract the populace from what is really happening in Canada.
Is this "zombie army" the first sign that the North American merger has already started and that the concentration camps in Canada have been activated?
It seems likely that the "proof of concept" would be tried out in Canada, since, with the vast expanse available, people could be easily disappeared without causing much notice.
Further, would the internees even be aware of the fact they have had a personality transplant?
This is a grave matter because it will inevitably work its way south after FEMA has got the kinks worked out in their trial run on Canadians.
Here is proof of the systematic approach to personality transplants occurring with our neighbors to the North:
All of Canada's military installations have been set up for the purpose of performing FEMA's well known personality transplants:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8En_mn2AF0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Have any Canadians noticed the effect of such transplants on their friends, neighbors or families? Have you "lost time" and awoken to find yourself more interested in reality TV or craving commercially prepared and pre-processed snack foods containing potentially carcinogenic ingredients? Thanks in advance for your response and observations!

P.S. As further proof that the Canadian government is pulling out all the stops to get Canadians comfortable with the concept of a personality transplant, I offer an article from a well-known Canadian News Source published last year (during the SAME timeframe the renovation of FEMA camps was occurring):
Title : Do you need a personality transplant?
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/small-business/sb-money/valuation/do-you-need-a-personality-transplant/article1811973/?service=mobile
I sincerely hope Canadians come to their senses soon and defend themselves from the assault on their liberties! | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/9/2012 4:18:10 AM | Creativestoryteller really needs to study some epistemology. That's the study of truth/knowledge and how it can be known and proven. Scientific method and all that.
AND you have to be able to evaluate sources; peer-review means that others have had the opportunity to criticize and evaluate criticism of theories or contentions.
Here on the web, Wikipedia has tried to do this, but one of the oldest and best places to go for research on circulating netsludge is good old snopes dot com. They have a long tradition of tracking down the sources and truth of what's going around, and should be the MINIMUM of checking anyone does before passing on ANYTHING that comes down the net.
Are they perfect? Undoubtedly not. Do they have a viewpoint? Certainly. But they are a great starting point, do not show a consistent bias to most readers' assessment, and huge numbers of people send things to them as soon as they appear. They judge things as true, false, mixture of truth and falsehood, or indeterminate. You may disagree but they provide sources that can be followed up, and they understand rules of proof and evidence.
In fact, Snopes is one site that I am GLAD doesn't allow its text to be easily cut and copied, because nobody can alter and pass on their articles: you shouidl insist on seeing the original online. Especially in all the BS items that say, "I checked on Snopes and it's rally true!"
Shermer's SKEPTIC magazine often writes about deliberate falsehoods and misinterpretations, and how they work.
The Thimerosol case is a good example of fear mongering that persists today even though the allegations were never replicated AND the original researcher was proven not just wrong but fraudulent AND paid by anti-vaccination groups. Thimerosol was removed from a great many products despite this, AND a US federal court forced vaccine makers to pay settlements based on fear rather than science. None were ever repaid, either. Even after the revelations, Hollywood based the first episode of ELI STONE (a very promising series, BTW) on the case (fictionalizing it as "Mercuritol") and showed their battling lawyer winning the suit against the vaccine producer on the basis of its president not giving his children that vaccine. They never hinted that the truth of the story was the reverse.
There's an election on in the USA at the moment. The lies and distortions are flying from all sides. The TV ads usually get called on the lies, but political campaigns have learned to use direct mail, e-mail and web sites to target primarily their own supporters, who will trust them and not search any further. Those "close" sources rarely get any peer review, because only the faithful see them.
Jon Stewart (ANOTHER JEW! THEY OWN THE MEDIA AND LIE ALL DAY AND NIGHT!) does a good job of rooting out everything from hypocrisy to creative editing. He's very partisan, but shows what a good critical press should be doing to unchallenged falsehoods and distortions. Even he often takes Democratic Party propaganda to task, too. Stephen Colbert's schtick is holding Republican propaganda to the fire to illustrate the dearth of self-criticism on the right, but he also presents Democratic fallacies, too.
It's odd - a friend of mine went out with a guy who really opened her eyes about religious propaganda, but was a devotee of conspiracy theories. I pointed out that the "God is in the gaps" fallacy is an excellent analogy to how conspiracy theorists try to make doubt into proof of something that has no proof at all. The World Trade Centre/Pentagon murders conspiracy theorists keep repeating and citing each others' thoroughly-disproven and blatantly-false claims, as does much of the "alternative health" fraud industry. AND much of the advertising about "healthy" food products, too. Freedom of speech allows anyone to say almost anything (there ARE limits) about whatever they want; people have to hear and protest lies being asserted.
The morals: 1. NEVER pass on anything without verifying, and when you find something is BS send references to the person who sent it. Tell them you think they should let other recipients know, too. 2. Listen to critics of things that you doubt, and evaluate them, too. (Like asking vendors what's wrong with competitive products, then testing the allegations.)
ED BEAR | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/9/2012 4:21:10 AM | I JUST stumbled upon this on ther interweb so it MUST be true!!
Preparations for the COMING INVASION OF AMERICA by Russian/NWO FORCES are progressing rapidly in Canada! As candidly admitted to me by many Canadians [including author and lecturer Grant Jeffery of FINAL WARNING and many other books explaining the coming New World Order takeover
Here's the link! http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/omegafile36.htm
Our own CST broke the news over the last month or so. Certainly on top of things, he is.
Oh...if you check out the link you will notice, should you choose to, that the info is about 16 YEARS OLD!
So much for "progessing rapidly" eh? | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/9/2012 9:55:34 AM | I sincerely hope Canadians come to their senses soon and defend themselves from the assault on their liberties! You're barking up the wrong tree...
There's a reason why the Canadian conspiracy theorists focus on the US... They can't get any 'traction' with other Canadians (at least not enough of them to warrant meeting anywhere other than "mom's basement")...
Besides, there wouldn't be any point to getting worked up about it... They haven't interfered with the hockey season and they would just sic Canada's secret adamantium-armoured, self-healing 'supersoldiers' on us (and THAT would interfere with hockey!)... | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/9/2012 3:56:57 PM |
The flights by the Russians are part of a treaty to verify weapons installations.Americans get to do the same on Russian soil apparently.No biggie.
NO...NO...NO... It's a huge part of the NWO. Apparently, the Russians have been going about this since 1996!
They will be rounding us up and sending us to FEMA death camps around July 1st. Wait that date passed so now it's taking place in October.
If it doesn't happen in October I'm certain it will happen in January, at least on the East coast, because it's cold and the Russians like their Vodka COLD! | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/9/2012 7:45:27 PM | | President Eisenhower proposed mutual overflights way back in the late Fifties as a confidence-building measure. The idea was to decrease the risk of underestimating the other side's strength--and therefore doing something dangerously aggressive--by letting each side see just what the other had. I think it was called the "Blue Skies" program. It never was put into practice, because the Soviets wouldn't agree. They were probably afraid of what the U.S. might do if it learned how weak the USSR's nuclear forces were in comparison at that time. | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/9/2012 7:58:28 PM |
The Treaty on Open Skies entered into force on January 1, 2002, and currently has 34 States Parties. It establishes a program of unarmed aerial surveillance flights over the entire territory of its participants. The treaty is designed to enhance mutual understanding and confidence by giving all participants, regardless of size, a direct role in gathering information about military forces and activities of concern to them. Open Skies is one of the most wide-ranging international efforts to date promoting openness and transparency of military forces and activities. The concept of "mutual aerial observation" was initially proposed to Soviet Premier Nikolai Bulganin at the Geneva Conference of 1955 by President Dwight D. Eisenhower; however, the Soviets promptly rejected the concept and it lay dormant for several years.[citation needed] The treaty was eventually signed as an initiative of US president (and former Director of Central Intelligence) George H. W. Bush in 1989. Negotiated by the then-members of NATO and the Warsaw Pact, the agreement was signed in Helsinki, Finland, on March 24, 1992.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Open_Skies#section_2 | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/10/2012 10:12:39 AM | After reading the forums and noticing that many Canadians attempt to draw attention to political issues in the USA, I have to wonder if these parties represent a cadre of "mind controlled" forces who may be on a mission from the Canadian government to distract the populace from what is really happening in Canada.
newp, not "mind controlled" at all, it's just really hard to ignore the piles of shit the elephant in the room keeps dropping . .
CST, dewd, you need to take a road trip to BC, this would undoubtedly confirm for you the Chinese have arrived, en masse | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/12/2012 6:27:56 AM |
why don't you explain to me now all the lil explosions that were shooting out the sides as the collapse was happening. lots demolition experts have agreed it was a controlled demolition. just compare the video to stadiums & building being taken down. it mirrors them
Why bother? It's like talking to a wall. Unless an explanation is something other than hologram, elf, Russian, Chinese, or conspiract related there no hope of convincing you of anything.
There's a saying at the FDA. If it isn't written down in your notebook, it didn't happen.
Or in your case: If it's on a conspiracy site, that's the only possible explanation.
Dude...get out of your bunker (aka mom's basement) and THINK! | |
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| USA to have Israel's star of David on flag for July 4 th Posted: 7/12/2012 7:18:06 AM | 9/11 conspiracy threads were banned from these forums years ago. My understanding is that they were just too damn much trouble.
If this has morphed into one, then it should be taken down. The original thesis was nonsense; the OP wants to make it about other nonsense now. | |
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