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 thoughtful76

Joined: 11/28/2007
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Posted: 1/29/2008 8:26:40 AM
Sorry aces, it is stuff like what you said that confuses students into thinking they know more than they do. You are talking about one type of progression as a cornerstone of instruction. Major, minor, dominant seventh extends beyond just a progression. Major= scales, chords, etc.; Minor=scales, chords, etc.; Dom. Sev.= scales, chords, etc..... see where I'm going with this? It is grasping the basic knowledge of this formula that encourages musicians such as myself to explore triadic work and even quartic melodies/harmonies. In between the major, minor, dom. 7, you can add flatted fifths, suspended 9, or any number of things to make it more exotic. But it helps to know the driving force behind the music you're playing.
 OttawaSparkler

Joined: 1/22/2008
Msg: 227
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Posted: 1/31/2008 5:07:34 PM
I'm looking into learning guitar also, acoustic first, currently looking into getting a
first guitar, wow , I never knew buying such a item would be so complex , so many makes
and price ranges from 70 bucks and up, to 5000 lol

But I've seeing now, to make sure to buy a guitar that isn't so cheap or poorly made that
it will turn you off trying to learn how to play , so now I'm saving a bit of cash to get
a better tried and tested beginner guitar that I wont be disappointed in .

that's all I can add to this thread lol
 danielalexander

Joined: 1/18/2008
Msg: 228
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Posted: 2/1/2008 9:10:08 AM
Cherish that first guitar.lol..The better you get at playing,the more noticeable its

shortcomings will become..warped necks,intonation out of whack,floating bridge

adjustments,on and on it goes.My knowledge of theory is limited but my ear is very

good.Anyone with a natural talent for playing an instrument has probably also felt

the frustrations that go along with playing an instrument with these "issues".I can

play just about anything...from Abba To Zepplin..literally..but repairing and/or

setting up certain things on an electric guitar...I am hopeless.lol.I have been learning

by trial and error how to adjust the neck ..but by and large,I dont fix a guitar with the

same ease as I play it
 Musikmaker

Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 229
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Posted: 2/2/2008 10:38:52 PM
Alot of feedback here...and good replies!
I'm a veteran I suppose now.
Personal instruction is second to none....someone who can watch you play and correct/inspire you on the spot.
Being a teacher, I've had to learn how to teach, and in doing so, over 10 yrs teaching, I've had to learn from my own mistakes.
It's one thing to know how to play, it's quite another to make that guitar work in someone else's hands. But it is achievable and beyond.
You don't have to neccessarily master music theory....
you do have to learn to control your instrument....much like the computer you're using....tell it what to do. Most of us can't write the code that wrote the software that drives POF....most of us can;t re-build our car engines when they break down, but we learn to harness the basic utilities within these things to get us where we're going.
Same with Guitar.
Learn scales. Positions, root notes. If you know every root note on the 5th and 6th strings, the Pentatonic Minor scales, the Major scales, the main open and closed chords, and learn to work successfully within them, you'll be fine.
It's not just that simple, but if you find someone who has tread that path, you can get there in a hurry.
 TrulyStephanie

Joined: 5/5/2007
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Posted: 4/2/2008 2:36:43 PM
Want to learn to play acoustic guitar, any easy books/videos that fish can recommend?

Okay, I've got the guitar, and now I have to either find a place for lessons, or learn on my own... I'm thinking the latter will be more difficult.

But, I'd like to fool around with maybe a video or a book to "feel" it out before investing in the lessons, has anyone self taught? Can you suggest any books or videos that made it seem easy to grasp the basics?

PS... I just did a thread search, and found this post in the forums. I haven't gotten the chance to read all 10 pages of posts, but I will... if anyone has anything more to offer... please do.
 WonkaBar

Joined: 2/3/2006
Msg: 231
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Posted: 4/2/2008 7:06:10 PM
Stephanie,

I'm self-taught. I found the "...for Dummies" series quite helpful, specifically "Guitar for Dummies". If you want to teach yourself music theory on top of it, oddly enough "Piano for Dummies" has a couple of great chapters on constructing chords, and there's also "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Music Theory".

That said, looking back I probably should have had an instructor. You can teach yourself, but you'll be teaching yourself whatever technique seems right to you, even if it really isn't. When I started playing with a jam band at a local music school, this was really rammed home.
 letsgopens

Joined: 9/26/2007
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Posted: 4/5/2008 11:11:39 PM
MontrealGuy on the first post was pretty much right. But, I'd get some basic lessons for 6 months or so, then go on your own to develop what you learned. I think that if you get taught too much, you can become an excellent guitarist, but won't be a good guitar player. There is a difference. The more you learn (basically copy) from a teacher, the less of your own style will come through in what you play. There are very good technical players like Malmsteen, Vai, Satriani, but Angus Young still sounds better because he plays with more passion instead of just wanting to play perfect. Any instrument should be an extension of your heart and soul, not your brain.
 BLACKACES

Joined: 6/2/2007
Msg: 233
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Posted: 4/6/2008 8:17:41 PM
Well if you watch the video of Angus And Malcom playing with the Stones.............

You'll see with all Angus's talent he doesn't have the class or respect to let Keith Richards be the Best guitarist on stage!

Resulting in Angus and Malcom being tossed after one song.......
 Scorpiodaddy4U

Joined: 4/3/2008
Msg: 234
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Posted: 4/7/2008 4:00:29 PM
Your going to receive as many opinions as responses to this question. Instruments, especially guitar for some reason. inspire peoples passion. I'll throw my two cents in the mix. First I would ask myself at what level do I wish to play? How much am I willing to sacrifice to learn to play. If you just want to have fun and make yourself feel good , and you don't care how you sound. then theres no need to torture yourself. If on the other hand you would like to learn, Do your self a favor take lessons. Learn theory. Theres more to music than just playing. Learn to read music. learn to shape cords, not just play them. Learn scales and modes and arpeggios. Rock music can be the simplest 3 chord music there is. It can also be as complex as classical music with augmented and diminished cords. Learn about time signatures and beat. practice technique. Eric Clapton said the 3most important musical tools are practice, practice, practice. Either way in the end it will cost you something to learn to play. Either you will spend the time and effort in the beginning learning your instrument. Or you will pay in the end frustrated at your skill level and the bad habits you now have to unlearn , a much harder thing than learning properly from the beginning.
Above all though have fun.
I wish you the best in your endeavor.
 TrulyStephanie

Joined: 5/5/2007
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Posted: 4/13/2008 12:05:22 PM
Thanks guys, that gave answers to my questions. I appreciate all the great advice. I signed up for some lessons at a highly recommended place of instruction/supply.
Have a great summer!
 jacksonguitars

Joined: 7/10/2008
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Posted: 8/5/2008 11:40:19 AM
Ok my 2 cents. Reading music yeah it can be a good thing, but I have been playing going on 22 years now, and I haven't read music in probably 6 or 7 years. Don't ever let playing or learning become a dread or feel like it is a chore because if it does then you need to quit playing. Here are a few things I have done over the years and think can be helpful learn your theory both guitar and general music, learn your scales it makes a lot of things a lot easier, and another key is finger exercises and stretches. One other thing is get a metronome because that will help you mentally keep timing when you start playing with other people. Trust me when your in a band and your practicing and someone can't keep the timing right it really tickles the dingleberries the wrong way for the other band members. Especially when it is the drummer.
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