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 statemachine500
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Much of the modern anti-Islamic rhetoric that we hear time and again is simply THE SAME as rants historically about different "other" groups; the thing about the apparatus of persecution that we STILL use to this day is that it begins with identification of the other, then redefines the other, then isolates....then launches the attack. It's all so very clear--Michelle Bachmann slandering scary evil Muslims and/or thirteenth-century theologian writing about Christian heretics or Jews and/or fifteenth-century Dominican writing about witches.....whatever.


Agree,hate is the easiest thing to brew up.

But looking at Britain,I think they have a wee bit of a problem with that group.Those sharia courts are a mistake for one.People must assimilate.
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 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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Posted: 7/28/2012 8:48:34 PM

But looking at Britain,I think they have a wee bit of a problem with that group.Those sharia courts are a mistake for one.People must assimilate.

Do you understand that those courts have no jurisdiction over people that decide not to use them?

Should people worry about Halakha Courts or how about any other time two parties agree to have their dispute settled by any arbitrator and also decide that the arbitrator can be of a religious faith and rule in accordance with what their faith dictates?


Why does that concern you or anyone else for that matter?
 Reprmoreons
Joined: 7/22/2012
Msg: 103
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Posted: 7/28/2012 8:50:10 PM

What utter slop. I'm sure a diligent leftist who hates Christianity and bows low to Muslim jihadists--and there are few of them who don't--could find something Adolf Hitler said sometime that makes it sound like the Nazis were on the side of Christianity. And that would be a lie worthy of the Nazis themselves. Calculated lying was standard procedure for them, just as it is for their modern-day supremacist equivalent, Muslim jihadists.


I was reading your posts (and they are all of the same theme: hate) and I was thinking, only an insane person thinks like this. This is not normal. Something must be wrong with this guy. Then it struck me how wrong I was and how brilliant all your post really are; because I realized it is all a joke--like Andy Kaufman and the wrestling and telling southerners how to use a bar of soap and having Jerry Lawler punch him out on the Letterman Show. It's all an act. Great stuff. Don't let the fact that I figured it out make you give up on it because it's a riot. Even the photo you've got up is inspired--sort of like a skinny Captain Spaulding without the clown make-up. Keep up the good work. Man is it funny.
 matchlight
Joined: 1/31/2009
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Posted: 7/29/2012 11:38:37 AM
I'm not surprised to see this thread has veered so far off topic. The people here who condemn those five Representatives for sending a letter that was that was the topic of the thread almost certainly haven't read it or studied the questions it raises. And even if they had, none of them, on their best day, has enough game to put up a reasoned argument supported by specific facts.

So they fall back on the usual tactics of weak sisters--talk about everything but the issue and hope that if they throw around enough angry personal insults, no one will notice they can't even begin to make their case. Regrettable, but understandable.
 Reprmoreons
Joined: 7/22/2012
Msg: 105
John McCain Slams Michele Bachmann's 'Unfounded' Attacks On Huma Abedin, Muslim-Americans
Posted: 7/29/2012 12:35:10 PM

I'm not surprised to see this thread has veered so far off topic. The people here who condemn those five Representatives for sending a letter that was that was the topic of the thread almost certainly haven't read it or studied the questions it raises. And even if they had, none of them, on their best day, has enough game to put up a reasoned argument supported by specific facts.

So they fall back on the usual tactics of weak sisters--talk about everything but the issue and hope that if they throw around enough angry personal insults, no one will notice they can't even begin to make their case. Regrettable, but understandable.


Oh man, this is great. You make it sound like you really believe all the foolishness you write. I like the "Weak Sisters" bit. I'm gonna have to remember that one. Hope you don't mind me using it, but you come up with some great insults. Andy Kaufman would be proud.

You've got guts, I'll say that. Myself, I would not be having my photo up and toss the insults around like you do. There are some crazy people out there. Don't let that scare you, though. Keep going with it--it's like performance art; which is ironic because conservatives hate things like art (unless they can find a way to make some money off it).

Oh, wait, I've got to say something on topic to keep with the spirit of your act. Let's see...um, I've got something:

I think Michele Bachmann is a nut and a hypocrite. Some have said she is doing what she is doing to help her raise funds. I don't agree with that. I think she is doing it because she is brain damaged.
 Earthpuppy
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Posted: 7/29/2012 3:19:59 PM
Understand the context of the guy who accuses things of going off topic. To him, everything boils down to a constitutional issue and even then only certain beloved parts of it.

Even Backmanns allies on the right have accused her of McCarthyism in these wild allegations. Match worships McCarthy and would therefore worship Bachmann's McCarthyism. Bachmann, Gaffney and Bolton...lovely bunch of witch hunters. Bolton is the Romney surrogate.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/romney-adviser-john-bolton-defends-michele-bachmann-witch-hunt
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
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John McCain Slams Michele Bachmann's 'Unfounded' Attacks On Huma Abedin, Muslim-Americans
Posted: 7/29/2012 3:48:50 PM
I agree EP!

"everything boils down to a constitutional issue"

Yes, that is true, but only the way the republicant/conservatives see it! See what happens in this case, they throw "freedom of religion" out the window, or the many rules of law "fair and speedy trial"...

To them it's....we don't need no stinkin constitution, no laws...their muslim...so we can do as we please...

The only time they quote the constitution is when it suits one of their issues...
 matchlight
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John McCain Slams Michele Bachmann's 'Unfounded' Attacks On Huma Abedin, Muslim-Americans
Posted: 7/29/2012 5:31:20 PM
#131

You make it sound like you really believe all the foolishness you write.


Thank you for proving my point. So far, you have said nothing at all about the topic of this thread, because you don't know anything about it.



There are some crazy people out there. Don't let that scare you, though.


You can be sure I won't be losing any sleep over it.


I think Michele Bachmann is a nut and a hypocrite. I think she is doing it because she is brain damaged.


Thank you for your insightful analysis. It meets the standard I've come to expect from people who share your views, and I will give it all the consideration it deserves.

#132

To him, everything boils down to a constitutional issue and even then only certain beloved parts of it.


I don't think you know enough about the Constitution to judge whether someone was distorting one part or the other. And I don't recall discussing any constitutional issues in this thread. You are claiming that because you don't have anything of substance to say about the topic of this thread.



Even Backmanns allies on the right have accused her of McCarthyism in these wild allegations.


I haven't heard anyone who's even close to being a conservative accuse her of any such thing. Rollins' statements about Sen. McCarthy are false as a matter of fact, and I could prove it if I wanted to bother. I don't know whether he made them because he's a liar, an ignoramus, or both.

John McCain's statement that there only "a few unspecified and unsubstantiated associations" between Ms. Abedin's family members and the Muslim Brotherhood is also false. There are several specific connections and they are substantial, as I've already documented in earlier posts.


Bachmann, Gaffney and Bolton


Brilliant, all of them. You can't refute specific arguments any of them has made, so you take the easy way out by attacking them personally--and based on someone else's claims. I've heard Michele Bachmann debate on Islamic jihadism, and she knows her stuff--I doubt it would take her five minutes to shred the best argument you could put up.

#133

See what happens in this case, they throw "freedom of religion" out the window, or the many rules of law "fair and speedy trial"...To them it's....we don't need no stinkin constitution, no laws...their muslim...so we can do as we please...


I have no idea what you are talking about, and it's very clear you don't either. It is you, not me, who is trying to introduce constitutional issues here, where they don't even exist. The five Representatives have done nothing whatever to interfere with anyone's constitutional rights--neither the ones you pulled out of who knows where, or any others. It's interesting that you attribute your own disdain for the Constitution, which you've expressed many times, to other people without any basis. It's a poor substitute for intelligent comments about the points raised in the letter.
 mungojoe
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John McCain Slams Michele Bachmann's 'Unfounded' Attacks On Huma Abedin, Muslim-Americans
Posted: 7/29/2012 5:47:52 PM
as I've already documented in earlier posts.

Yes, you've documented the delusional lunacy of Bachmann and her psychopathic "counter jihadi" whackjob ilk very well...

say anything intelligent about the points raised in the letter.

Considering how hard it is to find anything intelligent in the delusional, lunatic rantings of a band of psychopathic "counter jihadi" whackjobs it is not surprising that there is nothing about which to have an intellectual discussion...

That would be somewhat akin to trying to have an intellectual discussion of the political implications of Pingu...
 Reprmoreons
Joined: 7/22/2012
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Posted: 7/29/2012 5:59:37 PM

Thank you for your insightful analysis. It meets the standard I've come to expect from people who share your views, and I will give it all the consideration it deserves.


Thank you for saying so, Matchlight. That is very nice of you. You messed your quotes up, though. Andy Kaufman would never of made that mistake. These other guys must of rattled you or something. Anyway. don't let these guys rattle you. They just don't appreciate your comic genius. Keep it coming. I don't usually do the LOLs, but I'll make an exception. Here are some LOLs for ya. LOL LOL.

Edit to add: You fixed your quotes I see. Good Job. Here are some more LOLs for ya. LOL LOL and an extra LOL. Keep the laughs coming.
 Coma White
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John McCain Slams Michele Bachmann's 'Unfounded' Attacks On Huma Abedin, Muslim-Americans
Posted: 7/29/2012 9:34:03 PM

Agree,hate is the easiest thing to brew up.

But looking at Britain,I think they have a wee bit of a problem with that group.Those sharia courts are a mistake for one.People must assimilate.


They won't assimilate. Islam is an ideology against assimilation. I don't agree that it's pointing the finger and demonizing Muslims. I think people are just waking up to what's going on. It's not like someone rolled some dice and decided to have a problem with Islam. No one seems to have a problem with Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, etc. The 80 and growing Sharia courts in Britain aren't the only "mistake". People that criticize Islam like the Danish cartoonist or Geert Wilders are marked for death. People like Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh have already been killed for speaking out. In 2009, a makeshift Sharia court in Spain voted sentenced a woman to death for adultery. Luckily, she escaped and alerted the police. In 2011, a Sharia court opened in Belgium.
 matchlight
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Posted: 7/29/2012 11:39:48 PM
^^^^^Islamic jihadists can never be appeased, although that hasn't stopped a lot of Europeans from trying. Look where it's gotten them. And the shameful toadying to these savages isn't just confined to Europe.

Several decades on, millions of statist dopes in North America have now undergone a Howard Zinn-style "education." Education as Mr. Obama's America-hating terrorist pal William Ayers views it--indoctrination. They don't know much, but they're d----d certain of it. Almost as naturally and effortlessly as a good North Korean can sing the praises of the Dear Leader, these deep thinkers can recite the litany of America's supposed sins, from witch-hunting to slavery to the Trail of Tears to intervention in banana republics to Hiroshima to Vietnam to Iraq--and any other offenses, real or imagined, against the multiculturalist ethos. Whatever is wrong in the world, it is either the fault of America, white men, or American white men.

Leftists are the natural ally of Muslim jihadists, because each hates the U.S. and all it stands for as much as the other. Many of them seem to be just as prejudiced against Jews. And leftists, for all their sanctimonious pap about tolerating everything, are at heart authoritarians as intolerant as any Taliban. Watch how they try to silence and vilify anyone who dares disagree with whatever they consider the correct view on any issue. And watch them carry water for these vicious, woman-hating, Jew-hating, freedom-hating supremacist lice. As if, given the chance, the jihadists wouldn't walk all over their useful idiots like any other unbelievers.
 unYOUsual
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Posted: 7/30/2012 5:02:42 AM
Wild allegations really? Does the woman in question have family members with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood? Yes or No? Many of you have admitted that she does but you don't think is relevant as family members have no influence on us and our beliefs...some people think that may cause a conflict of interest..but I guess its a lot easier for you guys to ridicule people disparage them and what not as you lack the ability to defend your unrealistic position...

Guess what? There are Witches and one of them is your ally on these Forums.
 GreenThumbz18
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Posted: 7/30/2012 8:37:07 AM
Re: msg 127 - "Why does that concern you or anyone else for that matter?"
I agree completely. If it doesn't relate, then stay out of it.
You would never tell people of another country how to think, right?
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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Posted: 7/30/2012 8:49:27 AM

Re: msg 127 - "Why does that concern you or anyone else for that matter?"
I agree completely. If it doesn't relate, then stay out of it.
You would never tell people of another country how to think, right?

Right, and nor would I tell people in my own country how to think either.

What I will do though is provide my opinion and from time to time back those opinions up with facts and or other reference material.


So you would never attempt to show that you can not offer up a valid objection to something someone has posted by pulling the old "...you don't live here so you do not know..." bullshit would you?
 matchlight
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Posted: 7/30/2012 10:17:45 AM

and from time to time back those opinions up with facts and or other reference material.


What interests me most about some of the website facts you have cited from time to time is the fact you considered them facts.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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Posted: 7/30/2012 10:53:22 AM

Leftists are the natural ally of Muslim jihadists, because each hates the U.S. and all it stands for as much as the other. Many of them seem to be just as prejudiced against Jews. And leftists, for all their sanctimonious pap about tolerating everything, are at heart authoritarians as intolerant as any Taliban. Watch how they try to silence and vilify anyone who dares disagree with whatever they consider the correct view on any issue...

What interests me most is your obvious hater towards other people who do not share the same political belief as you.

Ironically much in the same way that jihadists do.




...And watch them carry water for these vicious, woman-hating, Jew-hating, freedom-hating supremacist lice. As if, given the chance, the jihadists wouldn't walk all over their useful idiots like any other unbelievers.

The irony, do you see it?
 unYOUsual
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Posted: 7/30/2012 11:34:11 AM
Thing that gets me is how Liberals are so blinded by their beliefs that they can't see the possibility of a person with access to classified info and acting as an adviser who has family members with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood being influenced by these family members....you guys just keep attacking everyone and calling people whack jobs and what not just because you constantly repeat it it doesn't make it any more true...Does the lady in question have close family members with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood ? YES or NO? If so is there absolutely no possibility that these family members might influence her in her role as adviser?
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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Posted: 7/30/2012 12:56:05 PM

Does the lady in question have close family members with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood ? YES or NO?

Is there any evidence that the lady in question has done anything wrong? Yes or No?
 matchlight
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Posted: 7/30/2012 1:17:44 PM
What interests me most is your obvious hater towards other people who do not share the same political belief as you.


I don't have any "hater" toward dim, ignorant, America-hating statists. I have an absolute determination to reveal as many of them as possible for what they are--liars, control freaks, and enemies of freedom. Much like the Muslim jihadists they're always so ready to stick up for.


Is there any evidence that the lady in question has done anything wrong? Yes or No?


No, nor does there need to be any. Even a remote possibility of undue influence in a position as sensitive as Ms. Abedin's is reason enough for the Inspector General to look into her family's contacts with radical Islamists who are hostile to this country.

None of the Representatives has even suggested that Ms. Abedin has broken any laws--as anyone who had read the letter that is the topic of this thread would know.

 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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I have an absolute determination to reveal as many of them as possible for what they are--liars, control freaks, and enemies of freedom. Much like the Muslim jihadists they're always so ready to stick up for...

So you are absolutely determined to get rid of the control freaks.

That is some comedy gold right there.
 Reprmoreons
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Posted: 7/30/2012 4:16:21 PM

That is some comedy gold right there.


It sure is. Matchlight is one funny guy. It's all performance art, like Andy Kaufman. It's great comedy, but he gives it away. He winks at the audience. Andy Kaufman said never wink at the audience. For example, Matches mentions going to law school...is he claiming to be a lawyer? I'd say he jumped the shark with that one. His bit is to act like a bitter, insane, hateful racist who posts his insane ranting and hate filled drek on a dating site forum; but what kind of Lawyer does that? It doesn't work for comedy because no one will believe it. A real lawyer isn't going to do that, no matter how hateful and insane he is, unless he's getting paid to do it, I suppose. Now, Tony Clifton worked for Kaufman, because you could believe it. But the bitter, hateful racist doesn't work as a lawyer. Perhaps it would works as an accountant, but not as a lawyer. I know, how about an accountant who embezzled money and went to jail and is now a homeless guy posting his hateful racist insane ranting from the local library computer. Now that's comedy.

So that's your new act, Matchlight. Forget the lawyer bit. Try the accountant who embezzled money and went to jail and is now a homeless guy posting his hateful racist insane rantings from the local library computer. That's funny stuff.

Keep the laughs coming, Matchlight. And remember, don't wink at the audience.
 mungojoe
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Posted: 7/30/2012 5:16:46 PM
BAMAKO (Reuters) - An al Qaeda-linked Islamic militant group in control of northern Mali stoned to death a married couple accused of engaging in extramarital affairs, the group's spokesman said.

well... I'll tell you what... The minute any of the gov't employees mentioned in Bachmann's delusional psychotic "letters" stone someone you get back to us and then we MAY consider you to have a point...

Beyond that, you are just engaging in ignorant, bigoted fear-mongering... but not surprising from someone who tries to justify genocide when his own national/ethnic group does it... I wonder how long it will be before the poster tries to justify rounding up and murdering Muslim children in the US...
 matchlight
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Posted: 7/30/2012 5:48:33 PM
#148
None of your incoherent maundering about what you imagine I am personally has anything whatever to do with the original topic of this thread. I think you will find that continuing to go off topic by directing personal, derogatory remarks specifically at another poster is against the rules of this forum. You started doing that to me before I had ever said a word to you, and you have done nothing but that for several posts now.

I'm not surprised to see you making lame attempts to insult me, because ad hominem attacks take so little thought. They're tailor-made for a weak game like yours. You obviously don't know enough about the topic of this thread to say anything of substance. Debate the issue, if you can, or please keep quiet.
 OyVay...
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John McCain Slams Michele Bachmann's 'Unfounded' Attacks On Huma Abedin, Muslim-Americans
Posted: 7/30/2012 5:48:54 PM
Paul, who in their right mind would condone a stoning? Then again, suppose I say that because you own guns, and advocate the same, you are part of the reason the Aurora shooting happened?

Neither owning guns make someone responsible for Aurora. Neither does being a Muslim make all Muslims responsible for this heinous act.

Bottom line, we don't control what happens in other soverign nations, so get a clue.

As for matchstick, he still refuses to understand that a person being a Muslim doesn't automatically make them a terrorist or jihadist. All he wants to do is spread fear. We have no part of our nation run under Sharia law. We have no part of our government controlled by Muslims.

Frankly, what you seem to misunderstand, or comprehend, is the fact that many of the posters who align with people like me, dislike ALL folks dominated by a "man in the sky". I think most of them have a screw loose. Whether Muslim, Christian, Jew, or any other that surrenders common sense, to a being that exists ONLY in their own mind!

There isn't one group of them, who DOESN'T want their beliefs, to supercede my rights. They will condone any of dozens of things based on their man-sky/book, and explain to me, what standard I MUST live to. I am moral, have standards, live to a higher standard than most religious folks...because they believe they can get forgiveness, by just asking the guy in the sky!

"you really don't understand what he writes"

What do you mean? Is it the insults? No, they come across clear enough. Is it the bigoted nature of his personality? NO that sure enough is clear...I'm sure it might be clearer if I saw him in his KKK get up. Is it his judgements on people he doesn't know? Nahhh...again he is crystal clear that he has contempt for anyone not a biogt, racist or conservative nut-bar...
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