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| Fornication vs Adultery
Posted: 3/22/2009 6:34:14 PM | | sex is a fun act that a husband and wife should do regularly with each other so says the Bible. Sex outside of marriage is unholy and leads to sickness, heart break, loss of money, and in some cases death. so says the Bible. I believe it is right but it also says that you need another witness for a fact to be established more if you want it firm. Any one know the stats? Last I read 25% of men cheat. | |
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| Fornication vs Adultery
Posted: 3/23/2009 12:40:43 PM | I don't know many people who are very committed about keeping their religion, who are in favour of fornication. Even religions like Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, and Hare Krishna, which many people who don't like Judaism, Christianity or Islam, seem to praise highly, regard sex as being mostly a hindrance to enlightenment and true happiness. So I don't think it's a religious issue.
For non-religious people, it seems to me, to be simply an issue of making a promise. They didn't promise not to fornicate, their spouse did promise not to cheat.
Somehow, that just doesn't seem to make a difference. But that is something that non-religious people need to figure out for themselves, at least to figure out that whatever they are doing, if it isn't working, then it may be because of what they are doing. | |
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| Fornication vs Adultery
Posted: 4/3/2009 5:23:04 PM |
Strongs #4202, 4203, 4204, & 4205:
Greek4202. porneia, por-ni'-ah; from Grk4203; harlotry (includ. adultery and incest); fig. idolatry:-fornication.
Greek4203. porneuo, porn-yoo'-o; from Grk4204; to act the harlot, i.e. (lit.) indulge unlawful lust (of either sex), or (fig.) practise idolatry:-commit (fornication).
Greek4204. porne, por'-nay; fem. of Grk4205; a strumpet; fig. an idolater:-harlot, whore.
Greek4205. pornos, por'-nos; from pernemi (to sell; akin to the base of Grk4097); a (male) prostitute (as venal), i.e. (by anal.) a debauchee (libertine):-fornicator, whoremonger.
Hebrew.
Hebrew2181. zanah, zaw-naw'; a prim. root [highly fed and therefore wanton]; to commit adultery (usually of the female, and less often of simple fornication, rarely of involuntary ravishment); fig. to commit idolatry (the Jewish people being regarded as the spouse of Jehovah):-(cause to) commit fornication, X continually, X great, (be an, play the) harlot, (cause to be, play the) whore, (commit, fall to) whoredom, (cause to) go a-whoring, whorish.
Next to the word Hell, fornication is probably one of the most mistranslated and mis used words in the Bible. The meaning of fornication, refers to incest, idolatry,and prostitution. Not necessarily sex between 2 unmarried persons.
Two persons in a loving , commited relationship, are not guilty of Fornication. Keep in mind also, we are told that what is in the heart, is just as much a sin as doing it. So all would be guilty of fornication, if it meant sex with out marriage.
I get a kick out of people who pick and choose what they think is sin. If sin is disobediance, and sex was sinful for any one not married, even the thought of it with some body else if married, then were we not all advised that we should cut off what offends us? Sheesh, Churches should be running castration nights instead of Prayer Meetings if this legalism is true!
Good grief,somebody has a dream at night, about sex, and its a damnable sin? None of us would make it out of puberty, or from watching a Hallie Berry movie with out thinking we better start ctting parts. | |
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| Fornication vs Adultery
Posted: 4/4/2009 12:42:16 AM | I don't know if fornication is a "sin" or not, but I tend to look at the act itself and ponder on that and this gives me the answers that work for me.
If sex before marriage is fine with God and is pleasing to him, is having had countless sexual encounters/affairs/aka "friends with benefits" style relationships what He had in mind when He created us?
Serial monogamy isn't working for us as a nation or even as world. As I've said countless times before on these various forums, stop over to the "Broken Hearts" section of POF and spend a little time reading. It is quite clear after even a few hours of time spent there that numerous women and men are being used and tossed aside on a daily basis.
What is the end result of this attempt at putting one's self out there, handing one's heart and body over to someone again and again, and having that "relationship" end when one or the other tires of the sex or the work involved in making something endure? Burn out and numbness begin to occur. One or the other licks their wounds a bit and then eventually gets back onto the old horse and repeats the process.
Over time what occurs? Skepticism, distrust, numbness, unwilingness to marry or to even take a chance at getting close to another, etc. By the time men and women are fifty, they'll likely have had a significant number of sexual partners and may have even aquired Herpes, chlamydia, or countless other stds. Is this what God had in mind?
I think God meant sex for the marriage bed for good reason. And He also meant it to last. Its not marriage that's the problem; it's the mockery we've made of this once upon a time permanent commitment.
It is my opinion that sex bonds a couple together. It can strengthen and bring a couple close to one another. This can be problematic if those engaging in the act begin to minimize its intent and start to numb themselves to its purpose. It was meant for procreation and pleasure within the marriage bed -- this is the partner one is bound to and sex is the stamp and seal of that contract/covenant.
Fornication infers that there is no contract, no covenant, legal or otherwise because there is no marriage. Marriage at one time was security; this is the case no longer but God's purpose for sex has not changed. It is designed to be a bonding experience within a permanent, legal commitment. | |
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| Fornication vs Adultery
Posted: 4/4/2009 2:27:34 AM |
It is designed to be a bonding experience within a permanent, legal commitment.
Here I thought it was about love. Which in itself as described thus:
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. . .And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. - excerpts from 1 Corinthians 13:4-13
"always perseveres' is my favoutite attribute, sure beats the divorce stuff toed to legalsim. | |
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| Fornication vs Adultery
Posted: 4/5/2009 7:40:14 PM | ^^Real love works for me and real love described by Corinthians isn't something we see many relationships these days based upon. We don't even see many marriages based upon the passage you've cited above.
Of course, what you've cited above is not the false, fleeting, transient, fake love that we see so much of. Many times that other kind of love is better known as "lust."
The deeper, more real kind of love takes much time to develop and can survive anything. It endures through the worst and best of times a couple might go through. And I bet the sex is hotter than fireworks in that kind of love--and why wouldn't it be? That's the ideal environment for trust and a sense of real security to develop for both partners. That's the best kind of love to base a marriage and a sex life on, instead of the other way around. | |
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| Fornication vs Adultery
Posted: 4/7/2009 8:56:32 PM |
That's the best kind of love to base a marriage and a sex life on, instead of the other way around.
The only kind I think, I con cur.
I will take Gods gift of love any day over any thing man created. It does exist, I just havnt found it yet! LOL | |
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