| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 8:33:20 AM | | i agree with Matt. obviously there are reasons for it... but having people interacting is how the site works, and its too bad that its being discouraged | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 8:40:08 AM | Ever hear of the concept of supply and demand? Well the demand is there for this forum
There are 800,000 + people on this site. Less then 50 posted in that forum constantly to the tune of hundreds of posts a day. That forum contributed nothing to the site except for thousands of useless posts a day. | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 8:47:30 AM | ^^^^^^^ i think this is one of the biggest issues, sheer size and the amount of posts made in the word games (as i said earlier, lots of 'yups' and 'sure do' type posts). I was amazed at how many ppl were on this site. I always looked at the forums as an estimate of registrants, fact is there is probably less than 10% actually using them. Which is why I'm willing to get over the word games being deleted, because I would hate to see the rest of the forums gone as well.
I'll miss the banter, but its not going to affect my day or the people I talk to or meet | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 8:48:43 AM | | ^^^ That's fine and I COMPLETELY understand that. There ARE thousands of useless posts... But that goes back to my question... Why wasn't this done in the first place? I don't know about any of the other people on this site, but I'm VERY shy, and this is the best way for me to meet people. I can't write someone out of no where and say hi, do you want to be my friend, and I'm sure I'm not alone on that matter. It was that thread that made it happen, and I'm sure there are others that can agree with me. I agree that there shouldn't be stuff like that going on, but there isn't any way you guys can allow only a handful of threads like that? I'm sure you will keep a lot more people who are probably going to leave. | |
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~Ames~
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Joined: 5/26/2005
Msg: 30 | |
| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 9:02:44 AM | Just gotta add my feelings here. I have to agree with most other users, definitely a HUGE LET DOWN to come into work on a Monday and find my favorite forum has been deleted. I made several friends from the word game forum, in fact more so than regular email and instant messaging.
I noticed that the use of instant messaging was suggested for future communications, well I am sure I am not the only POF'er that has disabled this feature...some of the instant messages are VERY inappropriate and bothersome. This eliminates this as a means to "chat" with members that I actually WANT to "chat" with.
By reading others insights and "playfulness" on the word game forum I was able to find other members (from Texas to Canada) that I had much in common with. I was lucky enough to get a little insight into them before exchanging emails and had something to talk about. I guess I viewed this area as an "ice breaker"...
Most of the postings on this thread were from the members that I am familiar with and I feel in a way that we had a little bit of a "gang", I really enjoyed reading what my new friends had to say and I am definitely going to miss "killing time" at work by posting and laughing at what fellow POF'ers had to say!
I like this website and I will continue to use it, but it will not be with nearly as much enthusiasm that I had for "my word game" forum fun.  | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 9:17:10 AM |
if you had'nt noticed its going on in just about every thread.
What's interesting is who the chatters are and where the majority of their posts were.
This was the problem, the rule breaking on Word Games was impossible to do anything about because of sheer numbers. Those who got away with it there carried it over to other threads in other forums, pulling threads off topic. I've seen the names and I've seen the numbers, of 56 chat posters 9 were not from Word Games, that's in the 24 hours leading up to "Word Games" going the way of the POF Chat Room, and for the same reasons.
f your going to have rules stick by them and don't single out one group of people.
What if that group of people single themselves out by breaking the rules? | |
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xchuck
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Joined: 6/11/2004
Msg: 32 | |
| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 9:29:32 AM | | Alrtight Late...now you have numbers to back up your argument. But i don't agree with them because i have no way of basing them on fact. So that means i have to trust your word for it and i really have lost trust in anybody involved in the management of this site. Nothing personal just how i feel at the moment | |
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xander
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Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 33 | |
| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 9:42:44 AM | I just logged in today. I saw in the Mod Forum that Admin had removed the Word Games forum. He posted the basic stats on posting patterns that brought him to that decision. I was in awe. Dozens of people making well over a hundred posts per day with all but a few of them being exclusively in that forum. I recognized a handful of those names and know that some of them put out discussion posts every time.
There are people railing about being asked to follow the rules more closely now that the one forum where they could get away with more has been removed. The rules have been there for ages.
Bottom line is that it's Admin's site and it's a decision he has made that is now pissing off ~0.00625% (50 of 800000) of the users. It's not censorship. It's a decision. I guess I'll check back here in a day or so and see how many of those on the soapbox have deleted their accounts. | |
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Posted: 8/1/2005 9:47:58 AM | Alrtight Late...now you have numbers to back up your argument. But i don't agree with them because i have no way of basing them on fact. So that means i have to trust your word for it and i really have lost trust in anybody involved in the management of this site. Nothing personal just how i feel at the moment
Sure, the same way I don't trust you to understand the messes that have to be cleaned up when chat leads to off-topic, flames and flame wars, and the amount of time it takes to clean them up. I don't expect you to think it's not fair if a relative few go from thread to thread in other forums with:
"U R CUTE javascript:smilie(' '   ) "
I don't expect anybody to understand that the reason that these forums are allowed to stay on this site is that a handfull of people clean up the mess that a few others insist on making, in spite of the fact that the rules are posted all over the place.
Nope, I don't "trust" that anybody here is concerned about any problems their rule-breaking caused, ...not at all. After all, ....they didn't do anything about it.
Did they?
If everyone takes a bit of the time they spend here and go try to "discuss" anything on an unmoderated newsgroup, see if you like it, if so? usenet awaits.
Here, I'll even give you a link to "somewhere to come play word games, chat , make friends and talk about stuff", it's even called "A Fun Place To Be"
http://groups.google.ca/group/Fun-place-to-be?lnk=srg&hl=en
Usenet awaits.
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 9:49:57 AM | You know, we can't be all that surprised that Word Games was deleted. All in all, since its inception earlier this year, it has been the dumping ground for threads that drew a large number of responses, including, but not restricted to "the person above" types of threads. Also, it has been well documented that Admin and the moderators hate those threads, so packaging them up in one central location eased the headache on the rest of the forums and made it easier to keep them clean.
I'm sure Word Games was a headache to moderate, because no-one even tried. The only efforts made by moderators to clean this forum was on a complaint basis. This was another signal that it was being earmarked for destruction, because Sex & Dating merited two local moderators, Ontario merited two local moderators, yet despite the traffic, Word Games had none.
So, while I am disappointed that Word Games and the posters who made it up have been bundled up as unceremoniously as a hefty bag of trash and deposited in the waste heap out back, I am not surprised that it happened. Keeping with the garbage bag theme, it does seem in hindsight that that forum was created as a large trash receptacle, waiting to get full enough for one major purge.
I, for one have no regrets and am anxiously awaiting the next forum to be deleted. Could it be the infamous Sex & Dating? Or perhaps Relationships? Because we all know that those two topics have as much to do with the whole dating scene as interpersonal communication......aka Word Games. | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 9:54:36 AM | | ^^ there should have been an announcement... or there should have been more mods. | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 9:57:04 AM | What about, "there should have been more people not breaking the rules"?
Had the chat stayed in that forum, it might have been ignored for a while longer, ....but that's not how it worked out, ....like the ill-fated chat room, ....it spread to the other forums.
This is a problem that self-moderating would have solved, not more moderators. | |
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xander
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Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 38 | |
| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 9:58:19 AM | | Note: Not once has Admin or any moderator made reference to how much "space" the forum was taking up. Can we drop that urban myth now? | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 10:01:33 AM | If it wasn't about the "space", then what was it about...? Enlighten us...
Edit: And please don't say "rule breaking" ... If that was the case all the forums would have the need to be deleted... | |
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Posted: 8/1/2005 10:02:26 AM | Late, you've given some food for thought so to speak in regards to the numbers and your various points of view regarding the Word Game forum. I'm still disappointed that is was taken off without any real warning. Perhaps if something had been mentioned that the forum was being used incorrectly and that if steps weren't taken to change the way people were posting that you would then delete this forum. I'm sure you would have seen a change in the way people were posting on this forum.
Personally all the people who I have met (From Australia to Texas and all points in-between) and e-mailed with have all been encountered here on the Word Games. I would have to say that most of us posting here would have abided by your warning as we all had fun on this forum and wouldn't have wanted to see it deleted.
As for the other forums I have gone on them but they are generally posts few and far between and you can't really get a good sense of what kind of person they really are. With the word games it gave people a chance to "let loose" so to speak and show their true selves which is what attracts different people to each other.
I would like to suggest that perhaps this Word Game forum be re-established for a trial period and if in that time there have been no improvements to the "rule breaking" that caused it to be deleted in the first place then to remove it all together. I'm sure that you've seen enough of these posts to show that there is a genuine interest to return the Word Game form for a trial run and if everyone here wants to keep the threads going then it would be our responsibility to keep the forum on topic without breaking the rules.
I truly enjoy the site and will remain on it as I have met some really good friends who I like to stay in contact with via the e-mail, however please do take into consideration the request to re-instate the Word Games and all the members who do post and have a great interest in this website.
Sincerely,
D. | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 10:04:41 AM | "I would like to suggest that perhaps this Word Game forum be re-established for a trial period and if in that time there have been no improvements to the "rule breaking" that caused it to be deleted in the first place then to remove it all together."
^^^ agrees | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 10:13:55 AM | Nope
Perhaps if something had been mentioned that the forum was being used incorrectly and that if steps weren't taken to change the way people were posting that you would then delete this forum.
Like emailing them and telling the to stop? .... tried that, it didn't work. I've sent out chat warnings every day for a long time, few people actually stopped because they'd go back into "Word Games" and see others getting away with it and then bring it back out into the other global forums. I have no idea how many chat posts I've deleted, ....quite a few thousand by now........ | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 10:25:18 AM | A) No *Thread may exist designated exclusively for Response from a specific Gender, Ethnicity, Orientation, Religion, Public, etc. Such a Thread will be deleted. The entire Concept of a *Forum is for anyone to post their Opinions and Thoughts, providing they are On-Topic, on any Threads he or she sees fit.
As an Example:
...This is a Question ONLY for the Men to... = No Good!!!
...This is a Question for the Men to... = Is OK!!!
Further, any Threads or *Topics that cause a similar Type of Polarization may also come under Review on a Case by Case Basis . | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 10:25:58 AM | I agree that you've had your hands full of various people chatting on the forums as not everyone uses them properly and unfortulately we have to suffer the consequences of their actions.
What about my idea to have it re-instated for a "trial-run" to see if things improve over the next week or so and then see whether we have been able to control the "chatting" on the forum? I'm sure that if you put it back up for a week or two you would get a good indication as to whether things have indeed changed or not. Simply call this a warning to the people who are chatting on the forum. | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 10:30:08 AM | Let's see if it stops on the other forums?
That's what this whole issue should serve as a warning for. | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 10:33:15 AM | | another thing... and this is what I NEVER understood for ANY site, so I'm not singling POF out for this one... how come people can't just talk about anything? why does it have to be on the topic? it should have been let people talk all they want about anything (but stay somewhat on topic) and if anyone reports anyone, THEN do something about what they reported. For everyone... what about the people who DIDNT do anything? (NOT me. I messed up a LOT, so I'm a guilty party of that) but for the few who stayed within the boundaries and tried to have fun without doing anything wrong? THEY shouldn't get punished for something we did. | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 10:36:46 AM | I dont talk to many people IN my state... so that leaves me out.  | |
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| Word Games
Posted: 8/1/2005 10:41:50 AM | What does this rule remind you of? J/K
Hey If ya need band width get ahold of me (seriously). Make's sense.
Still a drag though. Mod's are supposed to mod. Aren't rule breakers a form of job security for y'all? With no rule breakers there would be no need for mod's. I'm sure this will all work out. Hey where do we go to play here now? I reall don't wanna leave but if there's an acceptable forum that you may suggest...do tell. 'Till then I'll swim aimlessly in the pond. I agree a pond does gather "scum" and it must be cleaned. But where do you put the fish while you are cleaning up?
[Job security? We're volunteers. /xander] | |
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