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 W_ayn_e

Joined: 1/17/2008
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Posted: 3/4/2008 1:31:27 PM
A gentleman endeavors to treats a lady with dignity and respect. A lady endeavors to be worthy and appreciative of the dignity and respect she wishes to be treated with.

A true gentleman treats everyone with dignity and respect.
 YFandS

Joined: 1/19/2008
Msg: 152
is gentlemanly behavior and chivalry still important?
Posted: 3/4/2008 1:33:35 PM
I love a man to be gentlemanly and chivalrous...it makes me feel special. I think too many men put no effort into dating girls any more and they seem to think that it's enough to ask someone out and (sometimes) pick up the bill. In my book there's a lot more to it than that. It's nice to be treated like a princess and feel that nothing is too much trouble for the man at your side. Keep it up Desert Serenade :-)
 BelleMelange

Joined: 6/28/2007
Msg: 153
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Posted: 3/4/2008 1:41:09 PM
Hands down! YES!!!
And for all those men out there who dont give a damn about it, Women deserve the best!
Yes, we are independent in our careers and lives. It is not the same place our mothers grew up in! We want the attention!
My Dad taught me that it is a true sign of a mans respect and character.
Yet, I still want my doors opened and closed. I still enjoy the flutter of a mans lips on my hand. Yes!!!
These things are important...
A gentleman is a TRUE MAN!

Thanks~
Belle~
 medana

Joined: 12/8/2005
Msg: 154
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Posted: 3/4/2008 1:48:51 PM
well, bighead, thats YOUR problem not this thread's
 Boomstrike

Joined: 12/1/2007
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Posted: 3/4/2008 3:26:18 PM
I treat all strangers with the same respect and dignity, men and women get the same. I'll go the extra mile for children and the elderly. Women don't get anything more than men, they don't deserve anything more because of their gender. The women that feel entitled to preferential treatment are not my type for dating. You gentlemen can have the superior minded entitled women.
 Key Player

Joined: 6/14/2007
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Posted: 3/4/2008 3:35:13 PM
While I wouldn't say I want courtly attention before I know a man on a familiar level, I appreciate general good manners. That includes opening doors, letting someone go ahead (unless it's safer to go in front), and saying 'please' & 'thank you'.

Romantic chivalry from someone I've fallen for is FANTASTIC, but it weirds me out if a new date wants to kiss my hand .. but then, that's just goofy me.
 celebrtlife

Joined: 5/23/2007
Msg: 157
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Posted: 3/4/2008 4:07:01 PM
I always liked it when a man would open my door. Pull the chair out for me. The little things in life are so important. And saying thank you to him is also appropiate.
 etudeno4

Joined: 1/28/2008
Msg: 158
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Posted: 3/4/2008 8:16:59 PM
i have been reading the responses from a lot of the women on this post and it has totally floored me. i'd love nothing more than for a lot of ya'll to come down, over, or up to Alabama and teach these women here a thing or two...these idiotic, no brain having, redneck hillbillies who don't have the common sense God gave a bat. nothing is more gratifying for me than to be a true gentleman and the women here don't even appreciate it or acknowledge it. talk about sad. lol
 crusinthewaters

Joined: 1/29/2008
Msg: 159
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Posted: 3/5/2008 7:30:57 AM
Just because some ladies are independent doesn't mean that they don't like a gentleman and chilvary. One really has nothing to do with the other.
 constantgardener

Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 160
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Posted: 3/5/2008 7:45:37 AM
What a great question! Yes chivalry is so very important. A kiss on the hand at the end of a date is a great way to start a relationship and so very romantic. Chivalry is a sure way to a woman's heart. But it must be genuine and heartfelt. Giving from the heart and soul, respect and honesty are the best tribute a man can give a woman and a woman can give to a man. All the rest is dessert.
 tralaza

Joined: 2/10/2008
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Posted: 3/7/2008 12:37:16 AM
I'm independent, confident, and have a high power job but I'm still an old fashioned girl. Good character and manners never goes out of style.
 Mister Incognito

Joined: 3/3/2008
Msg: 162
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Posted: 3/7/2008 12:51:12 AM
The way a lot of people take chivalry for granted, i can totally see why it's dying. And rightfully so.

its a sign of the times.

In a way, chivalry being more rare is a good thing. I think the appreciation is higher when it's harder to obtain and then it happens to you without expecting it. Feels that much more special I imagine.
 wonwascallywabbit

Joined: 7/20/2005
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Posted: 3/7/2008 2:02:21 AM
I think like a few really great things chivalry and gentlemanly behavior will never go out of style. Sure there are a few who are offended by it. Mostly this is about your respect for people in general, whether it be a woman, child, or elderly gentleman who appreciates the gesture. No matter what you do in life you will offend someone, erring on the side of kindness and respect isn't the worst thing you could do.
 D_lily

Joined: 11/25/2007
Msg: 164
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Posted: 3/7/2008 2:18:11 AM
Chivalry shows a definate character I appreciate. It never goes out of style.
 kitkittie40

Joined: 12/9/2007
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Posted: 3/7/2008 3:14:46 AM
This is a great post! I love when a man treats me like a lady even though i don't always act like one Getting doors opened for me etc just makes me feel special. The small gestures from guys who are gentleman do make all the difference,knowing he would give you his coat if it was raining or cold,pouring your wine for you, helping me on with my coat etc,definately endears me to a man even more.
It does work both ways though, it's manners and respect and i would open a door for him too.
It's just a pity more men didn't know how to be a gentleman. Maybe all the gents on here should give lessons to those who arn't gents !
 jorel78

Joined: 12/29/2004
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Posted: 3/8/2008 6:51:06 PM
gentlmany behavior and chivilry ? hmm that is no different than than saying do woman know how to ct like proper woman any more, and I am not talking about cooking or cleaning, I mean non potty mouth, wears dresses, and is nice to men? for I see this a question for both sexes, just because a woman swears a lot or a man doesn't tip in the presense of a woman doesn't men that they do not know how to act proper. every one shines in there own way.
 umoukun

Joined: 2/17/2008
Msg: 167
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Posted: 3/8/2008 7:42:13 PM
Not important, some people already know how to treat everybody.

If someone wanted that from me, to open a door
or to treat somebody "like a lady" i'm not compatible
with that at all. It just feels like a slap in the face out of
nowhere. It seems crazy.

I worship women but not for show.
 alwaysme2

Joined: 5/2/2007
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Posted: 3/8/2008 8:33:17 PM
If someone wanted that from me, to open a door
or to treat somebody "like a lady" i'm not compatible
with that at all. It just feels like a slap in the face out of
nowhere. It seems crazy.


Your entitled to your preferences (nothing wrong with that) and you don't feel that you would be compatible with a women "who wants to be treated like a lady" but I am curious as to why what most people would think is common courtesy, would seem "crazy to you?"


I am an independant woman who can certainly open her own door but I always think it is nice when you are both walking up to a door and he opens it and lets you go in first.

It's a small gesture but can say alot about a person in my eyes. I think itt is the small things that mean the most.
 muskoka2008

Joined: 1/30/2008
Msg: 169
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Posted: 3/9/2008 8:17:14 AM
interesting thread

How about table manners? That's huge for me - do you know where the napkin goes, the salad fork, etc. etc. Where do you put the knife and fork when you are done? I teach my kids this stuff everyday. Manners are so important. Doesn't matter how many doors you open, she is paying attention to how you eat and behave at the table.

The same with how you treat your server - please and thank you go a long way. It never goes out of style to be polite and respectful.

I have always held the door, I've been taught that and believe its important and respectful. I'm teaching my boys the same thing.

I don't know if this true or not, but it makes sense: The man is to always walk on the outside of the sidewalk, because, years ago, people would throw their dirty water out the windows above, if the woman was walking on the inside she wouldn't get a wet head.
 spitfire6844

Joined: 6/30/2007
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Posted: 3/9/2008 9:31:11 AM

If someone wanted that from me, to open a door
or to treat somebody "like a lady" i'm not compatible
with that at all. It just feels like a slap in the face out of
nowhere. It seems crazy.


Agreed. There is a difference between a gentle, humble lady who is unassuming about such things, and some demanding shrew who yells about being treated "like a Queen".

The kind of women most men enjoy opening doors for and pulling out chairs for are the women who don't insist on it as a birthright. Those beautiful women don't even blink if you DON'T open an occasional door. Guys are paradoxically motivated to do such things for women who wouldn't act like it's an obligation or service to be done them. The shrews and witches (who are also often physically unattractive) are de-motivators for guys.
 woterlily

Joined: 12/31/2007
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Posted: 3/9/2008 10:00:32 AM

I am an independant woman who can certainly open her own door but I always think it is nice when you are both walking up to a door and he opens it and lets you go in first.


Ditto... or goes to fetch the car and pick me up instead of 2 frozen butts waiting to warm up the car. I could fetch the car and he stays if he wants


Agreed. There is a difference between a gentle, humble lady who is unassuming about such things, and some demanding shrew who yells about being treated "like a Queen".


spitfire, you're funny... guys who expects to be treated like a king, should return the treatment No, I am no queen, just the next door gal who appreciate kindness anywhere she finds it
 spitfire6844

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Posted: 3/9/2008 10:19:01 AM
cbmgal:

I don't know any guys outside of clowns or sociopaths who seriously expect people to treat them like "kings". If they do try to pull that crap, they get called on it immediately and often have to take some knuckles to the face. I challenge you to find one profile on this site where some guy is saying: "I AM A KING", or "A KING LOOKING FOR A QUEEN!!!!", the way some women (certainly not most) go with the "I AM A QUEEN" line. If any guy is saying that, he's an idiot, too. It's flat-out ridiculous, no matter who's saying it.

The chivalry crap is ridiculous. There are plenty of women whom I open doors for and do things for. Glad to do it, because of my affection for these women. However, not one of the women I'm close to walks around with her nose up in the air like she expects or demands it. On the rare occasions that I let them get their own doors, they don't come up with attitude. Real women don't put on airs and expect to be serviced by "butlers" and "chauffeurs". Frankly, that's a deal-breaker.
 barbarav

Joined: 3/1/2008
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Posted: 3/9/2008 10:32:08 AM
Oh yes, I consider chivalry a form of 4 play
 carlisleman

Joined: 3/24/2007
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Posted: 3/9/2008 8:39:53 PM
Womens behaviour is just as important.

I have met so many selfish, control freaks, paranoids etc that I wonder why I bother.
 Dumpling-Girl

Joined: 7/20/2005
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Posted: 3/9/2008 9:52:43 PM
Wow, the post that really surprised me was the one where a woman had never had her car door opened for her before (by a man driving). I am a woman, and if I'm driving, I always unlock the door for my passenger first before getting mine, even if it's a man. My car doesn't have automatic locks, but even if it did, I would still do this because I think if the driver is the one with the keys, it's rude for him or her to get to sit down in the car first while the passenger is forced to stand outside waiting (since they don't have the option of opening the door, since they don't have the key). Most guys that I have been on dates with that have driven have opened the passenger side first. It's pretty typical here.

It's a shame how much gentlemanly behaviour and chivalry have gone out of fashion. There is a bit of regionality to these things too. I lived down south (Georgia, USA) for a while, and got used to men typically going to some trouble to open the door for a woman (even strangers, in public - not necessarily just in dating), and then I came up here (BC, Canada) and had to get used to people (even men, walking through a door before a woman does) just letting the door fall in your face when they are going through a door and don't bother to look behind them.

It's not all bad though. I do tend to date the gentlemanly type. They're still around.
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