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Posted: 8/5/2005 6:30:55 PM |
Message: Trust me, nothing I've posted said anything about turning "me" on....can we say clueless as usual, can't you read?
Edit that was for cuteathleticman, talk about...no...won't go there!!
OT: There is nothing about going to a strip club that turns ME on, do I need to post this or is anyone else confused? You're off topic, the topic WAS relationships and a strip club. The porn topic has been beaten to death, I never post to those threads.
I don't read a post when its longer than a book. Don't have the patience to sorry lol | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 6:40:42 PM | I feel strip clubs are demeaning of woman......it is sad they are forced by, one way or another in life to work in such an environment.........  | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 7:25:36 PM | what's the point of viewing it, how is that different from touching it, from screwing it?
this is the planet earth right....I don't know a lot of five year old children but I can't imagine one being so stupid and clueless as to not understand the difference between looking at a block of ice, touching a block of ice or sticking their penis into a block of ice......if you can't understand the difference, you are clearly the one with the problem. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 7:32:20 PM | @ Dragon
I don't appreciate you insinuating that I'm garbage because I've gone to a strip joint with guy friends.
At least I can confidently say that I'd NEVER degrade myself to even bartending at one of those places.
Unlike you.
I can appreciate that you couldn't accept your man going. I'm not calling you names because of it. That's your decision.
We all dance to the beat of our own drummer. No need to start name calling
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@ athleticguy
The same goes for you. I DO have morals...more than most people. You shouldn't play the name calling card. It might come back to kick you in the *ss when you least expect it. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 7:39:54 PM |
Not single but thats the reason women like you are Low morals and values
Where do I call you a name????? I swear I know you from somewhere! | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 7:43:02 PM | What's wrong with both sides being right, and both winning?
If you hate strip clubs, keep with people that think the same way - and vice versa.
Simple idea, instead of bashing each other's brains out over a major issue that has no real chance of finding a common solution. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 7:44:43 PM | Holy
What a sh1tstorm!!
I have been to a strip club and I have seen some amazingly ATHLETIC women who are dancers. There is one here in Vic who is not only a dancer but a nationally ranked fitness competitor. Do I think she is attractive? HELL YES! Does she do anything for me sexually? HELL NO
Guys going to watch the dancers and have a few brew every now in then is completely normal. Lying and sneaking and hanging over the edge of the stage EVERY day is a problem.
I think the whole point that people are missing here is that this is a completely PERSONAL issue that EACH woman should be discussing with HER man. Period. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 7:49:03 PM | Well, it's a great discussion about the entire way we view things. That doesn't mean you have to attack the other side without mercy.
We'd listen and learn more if more people did that. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 7:52:27 PM | Alright, this half informed delusion of Politically Correct bull shit has got to end!!!!
I don't like to talk much about my life in here but for this pathetic argument I feel it is necessary to a point...
I was once a Greenpeacer, I was a tree-hugging hippie protester and travelled all over NA getting arrested for causes I believed in. I was a part of the whole "Politically Correct" movement before it ever had a name and I was brutal crusader for what I believed was right and just.
I was wrong.
After years of alienating innocent people, loved ones, family members, co-workers and strangers alike, I realised one simple truth. There is only one commonality between all these so called causes....RESPECT. End of fuc king story!!!!
By treating people with respect, and expecting the same from others, we will achieve a better society for all. Shitt ing on others who disagree with you only perpetrates a culture of hatred and divisiveness, it is as far from being respectful as you can get. In fact, respect doesn't even enter into the minds of people hell-bent on their crusades, all they are interested in is being RIGHT.....you are wrong!
Shut the fuc k up and listen to what other people are saying. I am sickened by this bullshit, hearing the same old tired arguments from twenty years ago....they were made more coherently by better people then and you butchering half understood concepts twenty years too late is sad and disturbing.
The fact of the matter is that looking at a naked woman is not oppressing her. Maybe in 1961 there was an argument to be made but in today's day and age, you can shut the **** up. That stripper has every chance to get an education, to enter into business, to become a doctor, lawyer, judge, senator, astronaut....you name it. The americans haven 't had a female president but the Canadians have had a female primeminister?
I'm not saying there isn't a glass ceiling, I'm not saying that this site, like most of western society isn't still dominated by misogynists, I'm not saying there isn't a lot of work to be done yet....I am saying that a woman has the right to CHOOSE to strip and men have the right to CHOOSE to go to strip clubs....fuc k you if you disagree, my viewpoint is every bit as valid as yours and I'm tired of trying to be a nice guy about it....I think I might just go to a strip club tonight just to spite you ignorant, narrow-minded ass holes!!!! | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 8:06:29 PM |
I'm not saying there isn't a glass ceiling, I'm not saying that this site, like most of western society isn't still dominated by misogynists, I'm not saying there isn't a lot of work to be done yet....I am saying that a woman has the right to CHOOSE to strip and men have the right to CHOOSE to go to strip clubs....fuc k you if you disagree, my viewpoint is every bit as valid as yours and I'm tired of trying to be a nice guy about it....I think I might just go to a strip club tonight just to spite you ignorant, narrow-minded ass holes!!!!
oh hell yeah! I'll drink to that.....  Hold on, i am getting my keys! | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 8:10:03 PM |
Score to date : Peace, Love and Understanding - 0
Unmitigated rage - 1
NOW that was funny!!!!
ROTFLMMFAO! | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:05:43 PM | Why not visit the strip club with your man and have a good time then go home and entertain each other????  | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:13:27 PM | | My last boyfriend went to strip clubs....oh he was forced...like it was never HIS idea...but every time he went out with the guys...that's where they ended up....I've heard stories like...it's quieter..hahahah....you can sit and talk..hahahaha....they can't touch you....etc.etc. But it made me feel so hurt. I would strip for him and dance for him. I bought fabulous expensive lingerie, he never did without great sex. So I simply could not understand why he had to go watch someone else undress and dance????. And yes...to men it's erotic...to some women it is degrading. A single guy...OK....there's a valid audience no doubt. But not when you are in a relationship. I decided I could not, would not tolerate it. I know a lot of you disagree but as long as women are willing to do anything for money....we will never,ever get the respect we desire. Go ahead....bash me!!! | |
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Posted: 8/6/2005 5:19:38 AM | "Interacting with mental midgets and seven fingered, inbred hypocrites is never a good idea when you've been drinking but WTF, bring it on! The only way to deal with these kinds of a***holes is to give them their same shit and throw it right back into their faces, whether it is the "moral majority" or the "I'm eighteen years older so I'm right" kind of idiots....I vow to never give them any quarter or mercy.....if they choose to step before my longsword, they will drown in the blood of their own hypocrisy....I think I need another drink."
Hey, screw you, dipshit. I never said I was right because I'm eighteen years older, you pompous ***hole. What I said was I had the benefit of eighteen years' more experiece of living life and that perhaps my opinion should be given some merit based on that fact. Just who the hell do you think you are, anyway? I AM entitled to my opinion. And my opinion has little to do with my age (I thought the same even when I was in my 20s) and has NOTHING to do with "morality." Degrading women is just WRONG. If you don't find it degrading, well, that's not surprising. Many people don't have the mental capacity to see it for what it is. I've been in a couple of those clubs before. The room was nicely decorated, the restrooms were nice and clean, the place had a nice "atmosphere," but the place was also trashy. Do you get my meaning? The dancers were trashy; by and large most of the patrons were trashy. And the majority of them were sitting there gawking and practically salivating at the "dancers" like a bunch of adolescent prepubescent acne-faced idiots.
I've met several "exotic dancers" over the years and by and large most of them say it's a terrible way to earn a living and that they got involved in drugs and that it was humiliating. The only ones who don't say that, I have found, are the ones who are very young and very naive and they say, "Ooooh, but the money is good!"
I've spoken to many of them who also admitted being prostitutes. Of course, some aren't; that goes without saying. It's a sleazy way to earn a living either way it goes.
What some morons here don't seem to understand -- you being one of the biggest ones -- is that it has nothing to do with thinking viewing a naked body is wrong. I have nothing against nudity, per se. I DON'T think a woman should put herself on display for just any "John" to come in and view her -- I mean, how can you argue that's dignified in any form, shape or fashion? But, having said that, the main reason I'm against strip clubs and pornography and Playboy and such things is that I do not believe in using women, i.e., HUMAN BEINGS, as "entertainment" for men. (Nor vice versa, but we all know the former is far more prevalent). You know as well as I do most of the guys who go to those places or read those magazines or look at porn are NOT doing it because they love women and appreciate the female form for its beauty. They're not there to study it as an art form.
Add to that I've said throughout this entire argument "to each his own" and so forth and that I was speaking about people who are in COMMITTED relationships wherein one partner finds it offensive that the offending partner shouldn't go to those places, IMO, and that if it were MY partner, his things would be thrown out on the lawn if I ever caught him going to those places. I am well within my right to my opinion in this regard. I never said you couldn't go; I never said you weren't entitled to your opinion. Now, go, and jack off to your heart's content. At least you'll be spewing something besides the ridiculous rhetoric you're spewing here. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2005 5:47:04 AM | Holy pancakes! This is still going strong?
Obviously, stating our opinions to death will not make the other side see it and even take it into consideration before saying the SAME THING over and over again (basically how this is still going). Stubborness can be a good thing, but when it comes to an obviously debateable topic, wise up and do it in such a fashion that...well think about it, "100% Free Dating Site". There's the side where people have been saying if-you-want-to-call-them-classy strip clubs are completely fine, and others who totally disagree. Don't try and change anyone's mind and when someone states their opinion, don't attack them like a pack of wild wolves. Enough of the I'm right, your wrong mentality.
To each their own, if you don't mind your partner oggling live women/men shedding their clothes, more power to you for being so secure with yourself! If you would rather he/she look at you, great! That's why you two are together. Can we all not see this? | |
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Posted: 8/6/2005 6:07:24 AM | "To each their own, if you don't mind your partner oggling live women/men shedding their clothes, more power to you for being so secure with yourself! If you would rather he/she look at you, great! That's why you two are together. Can we all not see this?"
Ummm, what does being secure with yourself have anything to do with it? I don't want my partner ogling live women shedding their clothes because I think that it's disrespectful. I am VERY secure with myself. I'm really getting rather tired of the attitude that a woman who doesn't want her man going to strip clubs is somehow insecure. It has nothing to do with security or the lack thereof. If was so insecure, I'd go ahead and let him do what he wanted to do, perhaps while sitting at home cleaning the house, doing his laundry and taking care of the children? Isn't that what the good little wifey is supposed to be doing while he's out getting his harmless "entertainment?" Then, oh lucky me when he gets home and he's all raring to go. Sorry, any man of mine better not need a fluff girl. If he does, he can hit the door. Simple as that. End of discussion. Well, unless someone wants to continue this, because I'm never at a loss for words. Working with words is what I've done for a living for over 20 years now...bring it on. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2005 6:56:12 AM | | Just to clarify. I don't go to strip clubs, my boyfriends don't go to strip clubs, my late husband didn't go to strip clubs as a regular thing. I went twice with a group as a stop on an evening out to celebrate something, someone's birthday whatever. I did NOT want to go, I believe I already said that. I agreed to go. I've never said whooohee hey let's go out and watch topless women dance....please. I don't find that entertaining or enjoyable at all. I do not watch porn, never had porn movies in my home, never went to an adult bookstore, it's just not my thing. I never dated anyone that to my knowledge anyway, frequented a topless bar, rented porn or bought magazines with porn. I would NOT date anyone that I knew did that. I don't think going once or twice with a group of guys, however, makes a man a pervert or strange. As has been said, habitually is a different thing altogeher. My late husband worked with some guys who DID go regularly and if he went with them, so what? I certainly wouldn't wreck a great relationship over a trip to a titty bar. He knew that I would prefer he not go, but I would not demand he NOT go, it was up to him, I just didn't think it was a big issue. I say live and let live, I don't judge people who frequent those establishments, although personally I wouldn't get involved with them, and I don't judge the women who do that for a living. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's wrong, and I don't believe I ever said that because that's just not the way I think. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2005 7:17:21 AM | evanism-
again, i see this as a individual choice/issue, but that said i feel the same way about hooters as about strip clubs for the same reasons.
isn't nudity or the degree of, heck i HOPE my guy is familiar with a womans anatomy. (will add in response to the comment about learning to please women from porn, from what i have seen porn tends to encourage the opposite of what i would be pleased with, at least till i AM `ready'. LOL)!
montreal-
yep- it IS also cultural, and there is no point in arguing about right or wrong....with regards to opinions and tastes.
peace
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Posted: 8/6/2005 7:20:09 AM | theres nothing wrong with going to strip clubs
theres nothing better then having some girl dance and grind your lap
so good, i think all women who have the proper look, should work in strip clubs
the more strip clubs the better. the only thing a women is good for is for the looks and looks and for sexual favours, other then that who needs them | |
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Posted: 8/6/2005 7:45:51 AM | If you do let him go, as long as he comes home to mama and doesn't have erotic thoughts of you know who when he is with you (gee, that rhymes!) and doesn't call out her name in the bedroom when he's w/you, then you be the judge. Try going out (w/your lady friends) to a male club and see what he does. Just maybe, his tune will change then.
As far as the "touching" deal, most clubs have (BIG) bouncers and touching is a "no-no" and will get you ejected promptly! Even w/the lap dances, you keep the hands (& anything else) to yourself! Those dudes do watch the gals closely and any "laying on of hands" gets immediate attention.
To each his/her own. | |
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