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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:27:37 AM | | i like to have the back of my neck kissed. for some it may not be a turn on. i'm thinking the strip club date may be the same thing and it's kinda silly to argue it. besides who wants to pay that much for beer? | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:32:32 AM |
She opened that gate by the rude and condesending remarks she made to me, particularly by saying what I had to say was "hilarious" and so forth. Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
nope......i can take it. you would not have viewed the remarks as condensending if you were not the least bit insecure. Sorry bout that! Even insecure people go through denial. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:34:07 AM | "The day I lack the desire to jump my man without "outside stimulation'... me.
LOL....but that'll never happen!! Seems to me more of a LACK of the natural sex drive than anything else to want to go to a strip club. * shrugs *...Whadda I know...Never had a problem of that nature."
AMEN!! To the above and everything else you said in that post. Someone who GETS it!!!! Thought I'd never see the day!  | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:34:20 AM | Dragon,
Was i referring to you in most of what i have said...i quoted what your last post was but that is the only one i had read....don't care to read the others.? Hell no.....your 2 cents don't mean shit to me! I am sorry that you have to be a friggin prude! Bless you dear one! | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:35:56 AM | "nope......i can take it. you would not have viewed the remarks as condensending if you were not the least bit insecure. Sorry bout that! Even insecure people go through denial."
What does my calling you on your rudeness have to do with being secure or insecure? But since we're on the subject, if you weren't insecure about going to strip clubs, you wouldn't be so defensive about it nor would you be so condescending as to consider someone's opposing viewpoint "hilarious." Think about it. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:36:55 AM | am i a prude too? i don't THINK i'm a prude.
i just find THAT repulsive. i don't think would make someone prude. just different tastes | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 9:50:09 AM | "I mean really who cares where you get your appetite it's where it's satisfied that counts."
Is that a fact? Well, YOU may not care where your man gets his appetite, but I care where mine gets his. If you're SINGLE, (meaning not involved in a relationship) that's one thing. But if you're not? HEL-LOOOO??? If my man needs to get his "appetite" from any source other than me, then he can get his satisfaction from that same source, as far as I am concerned. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 10:08:58 AM | to summarize my last post here.....
The total of ALL men who HAVE looked at porn or been to a strip club at least ONCE in their lives would not even come close to matching the total of all women who have found at least ONE thing they feel disrespects them.
There are many, MANY naive females walking around thinking that their man would never, ever look at porn. he's just doing it behind your back instead and keeping it well hid. It seems to me that if we all spent as much energy working on our own self-esteem as we do getting worked up over porn or strip clubs, there would be a whole lot less problems in our relationships ( when we have them )
Most people who watch porn/ go to strip clubs are not even thinking about the actors/models/ dancers. It is the entertainment, and sometimes the schooling, but if you are worried that porn watching creates lust, ruin relationships, then I suggest that you also worry about the women your man works with, passes on the street, in the mall, on the beach, and everywhere else he goes because I have certainly seen some half naked folks out there, and because these folks are tangible, they are the ones I would worry about if I equated porn with cheating.
Someone said that it was "disgusting"...... That your behavior is determined only by what YOU want to do, and that love, friendship and respect for your man doesn't include sex??? If seeing a stripper is sometning he likes to do, you would not allow it?Talk about shallow....and naive!
stripping and Porn is a problem only when it is a problem, but the problem is never the porn.
Porn and strip clubs themselves are not harmful to a relationship. What makes them harmful are the attitudes of those in the relationship. And as for it being disrespectful, only if one partner disapproves of the other viewing it. In short, if it bothers one partner, then it bothers the relationship. Looking/ Wanting / Doing are all different things people! | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 10:25:25 AM | | You also have to remember that Montreal has some of the classiest strip clubs in the world. We are not talking cheap clubs off a country highway. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 10:37:33 AM | One thing I've noticed from strip clubs is that all the men are not drooling over the women. It's like some of you all just thina guy went to a strip joint that he is there for the sole purpose of getting all worked up over these women. Sorry to break it to you, but no.
I know then what your thinking now, then why would a guy go at all? Well lets see, my buddies and I will go sometimes because it's different than the other bars for one. They got some really good pool tables and most bars around here don't. The drinks are the same price as any ohter bar around here and naked women are walking around. Hmmmmmm, to me that just doesn't sound like a bad deal really.
I do believe that if you and your partner agree that one or the other should not partake in such activity then it should be off limits. I have no problem with that. But just freaking out because your guy saw a naked women does not translate into him getting all worked up so he can just "jack off in you". Then again maybe your guys are that way and have no control over what they see or do. Maybe they are one of the few men who will go to a club and get glued to the stage, spending all their money, drooling, and scratching their ear with their foot.
As I did mention in a earlier post. The times I have been there where almost as many women in there as men.
I do not frequent these places often but I see no problem in doing so if one would like to. If you think about it it is far safer for you to let your man go to a strip club than to a regular bar. At least you know at the strip club he will not be "gettin any" but at a regular bar there is the chance that he can hook up and "get some".
People check out other people all the time. If your mate decides to make comments to you about some person they just checked out that is plain rude and unacceptable. But who in their right mind would do this? If you went out with someone that would then you need to choose more wisely.
To those that think the guy is just wasting money. Well in my opinion it is a waste, which is why I don't spend money on the dancers, just on the tables and for drinks. But don't think that these dancers are steeling the money from unsuspecting men who have no sense to them and can't say no to a pair of boobs. These guys know what their doing. They know what they'll get for their money. All in all it's not unlike any other entertainment. Some people spend their money on shooting pool, playing golf, going to a concert, bowling or any other purely etertaining activity. The only difference is that there is a naked women involved, so somehow that makes it worse. Did you all know that Golf clubs will do private tournaments and have topless women serving beer and such? | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 10:41:25 AM |
The definition of classy is not going to strip clubs.
I don't think going to a high class strip club once a year and acting like a gentleman, and having a beer with some friends is going to harm anyone's classiness index.
Going out all the time, or very frequently - I agree.  | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 10:42:11 AM | [classiest strip clubs in the world
What's classy about a bunch of horny drooling men? It doesn't matter if they're in tuxes drinking crown royal or in a t-shirt drinking beer watching a wet-titty contest - the looks on their faces are the same....and it wouldn't make their mommas proud. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 11:03:44 AM | i'm not going to say people who go and people who don't are any less or more classy than the other but my question is....
why are the strippers not classy but the men are as long as their socks match? i don't get it. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 11:07:05 AM | bambi...your opinions are just that...opinions. Just because you think there's nothing wrong with men going to strip joints and looking at porn while in a committed relationship doesn't make those of us who do prudes or naive or insecure or any other adjective you want to assign to it.
From my point of view, I know that I am physically, mentally, emotionally and sexually stimulating enough for any man and any REAL man, when involved in a relationship with me, would see that and wouldn't have to use the excuse that he's got a pecker and a body filled with testosterone to justify his adolescent urges. Therein lies the difference between the men and the boys. Women who justify the "boys will be boys" mentality are the ones who are insecure, IMO, because they're too weak to stand up for what is right. But having said that you are certainly within your right to allow what you will and what you will not within the confines of your OWN relationships, but don't act as though those of us who have respect for ourselves and our boundaries have something wrong with us, because we don't. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 11:13:01 AM | I used to know two dancers a long time ago. I didn't even know they were dancers ( high class club btw..Chez Paree), I thought they were business women.
They lived in the same block I did, and actually would come up to my place to bring me breakfast and talk. Of course, it only took clueless me about two months to figure out they were dancers.
Meanwhile, my friends were thinking I was friggin' Hugh Hefner.
They were making about FIVE times what I was making, just stage danced, and were total professionals - no drug or drinking problems. They both wanted to open a business, and were doing it for about two years to make the seed money.
Intelligent, and very focused. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 11:27:42 AM | | The way i see it is that if the guy/ girl wants to go to the strip club with friends so be it as long as there is no lap dancing or touching of such kind. but just going there to watch i think is fine. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 11:28:29 AM | "I think every female should attend a Chippendales review once in their lifetime "
really? why? | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 11:29:06 AM | My man can go to a strip club but only if he takes me with him.
He wont get to have a lap dance but I will.
He can sit his chair up really close and watch me slide my skirt up and play with my tits while a hot woman is slithering all around me.
I think that is very sexy and it wont take him long to get you out of that club and show you how much it excited him.
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Posted: 8/5/2005 11:29:38 AM | Guranteed this thread is deleted soon, but to the overloaded in here...do you's know what you're arguing about anymore? Yeah it's not on topic, but I'm curious. It doesn't seem like it. It seems one person's views are getting in the way of a few others, it's a case of "they started it".
OT: I thought I was posted out about this last night. What I was saying got taken way out of context but in the long run I'm going to agree with some of the majority in here. Guess you have to pick side A or B. Why would you feel the need to go to a strip club (there are NO classy strip clubs...each and every one is a dive...a shit hole. It might seem classy because instead of just beer they serve****ails as well and oh my gosh...the dancers outfits all shimmer and shine) anyways? If you're single, knock yourself out. If you're not, don't be surprised if you're partner has a problem with it because you know full well you would if he/she went as well. | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 11:34:42 AM | | My ex used to sneak out and go sit in gynecology row every afternoon when he was supposed to be working and also after he thought I was asleep. For him, I think a lot of the "thrill" was wrapped up in doing something "dirty" and "secret"....The sneaking was the thing that bothered me.... | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 11:38:33 AM | "You have an odd misundertanding of male sexuality."
Is that post addressed to me? If it was, how do you figure that? | |
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Posted: 8/5/2005 11:45:34 AM | well if this isn't a great eg. of an issue where `to each his or her own' applies, i don't know what is!
very interesting though to see the way different people draw different definitional lines, etc. hmm....
i have (unfortunately) been to a strip club with a date and the result was not mind blowing sex, i essentially ended up running away from this guy by the end of the evening. i would have rathered sat and watched porn than go there, but i was not unwilling to go check it out.
it was interesting to me, that during that experience anyway- the dancers seemed to be mainly coming on to ME. they were shaking thier pu**ies in my face and HE was paying them. i was rather bored and wished the drinks were stronger.
however- the stupidest sh*t i probably ever saw in my life is MALE strippers. OMG, what a joke. nothing sexy about that at all. i was 18, on spring break and it was the first time i ever heard of men taking off their clothes for women to ogle. so, being as i am a `show me' sort, i checked it out.
laughed my ass off, nothing going on there was at all appealing to me on any level. but they were giving free drinks so i stayed an hour and can say i gave it a go.
the idea is to let women drink free and watch these `men' for three hours, then let in the hundreds of men at 10pm, who thought their chances for getting laid had been enhanced.
peace
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