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Posted: 8/7/2005 7:06:21 PM | | Yeah, it is funny. I'm laughing as we speak while I clean my rifles and pistols. I'm proud and honored to be a gun-totin, life member of the NRA, and my marksman ribbon with a Colt .38, when I was long ago puttin holes within the holes on the target range. The Sgt. was flabbergasted, and said if I was in the Army, they would use me as a sniper. Too bad, I never fired any more shots. I don't kill game anymore cause I love them more than people. I am a proud member of Defenders of Wildlife, and The Nature Conservancy, and wish I had the time and money to cut down on the homo-sapien population as an overpopulation problem. As far as takin my guns away or any other American citizen,,,comon down and do it,,from my cold, dead hands. But you'd better be damned good. | |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 7:11:11 PM | however the problem is now coming to canada, lots of guns on black market
just recently there was 6 people murder in less the 24 hours in the city of Toronto
all gang related
i say rid the world of guns
its the black market. you cannot put legal regulations on an illegal market.
ridding the world of guns will never happen. that would be like trying to stop drugs or alcohol, which both have proved impossible to stop.
Too many americans, think by owning a gun, you are safe.
Guns are too many in the states.
People should be limited to how many guns they can have and how they can get guns.
shut up. you are not an american. you do not have any right to tell americans what to do. if you come down here, become a citizen, and register to vote, then you can tell me what to do. | |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 7:21:19 PM | | You can bet your ass there are plenty of guns that will be available in Canada, and everywhere else where sane men and women live. Controls are a farce, as I've said before. As far as anybody gettin to vote in these United States, and becoming a citizen. Then you have the right to say all this stuff. It's your call. But as for me, I won't tell you what to do, and nobody will tell me what to do about owning guns. That is my right. As far as ever actually shooting anything, it will be only a paper target or clay target,,not a human nor animal unless in self-defense. I happen to admire the fine firearm, and that is no crime. | |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 7:58:19 PM | im still sticking to what i said, i am right.
Americans have no right to bare arms, its dangerous | |
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Posted: 8/7/2005 9:25:25 PM | | canadian, shut up before i come up there and shut you up. our right to free speech does not extend to you. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 1:19:51 AM |
mechmusician
" canadian, shut up before i come up there and shut you up.
our right to free speech does not extend to you. "
mech ... Does the word ... a**hole ... resonate with you ?
FYI ... PoF is a --> CANADIAN ... site.
~ That kinda sh*t doesn't fly here. 
~ Obey the RULES or -----> Get the.. F*ck out !
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| gun control in the usa
Posted: 8/8/2005 1:34:41 AM | Hey this duck is funny.
How does it manage to get online?
Does it have internet access from the pond?
Does it type with its beak or webbed feet?
Still, for a duck, it does pretty good.
No doubt, having lost a few fellow ducks to hunters who are now chowing on its erstwhile tastey buddies, OF COURSE it likes the idea of "Gun Control."
We must be vewwwy vewwy qwiet.
We'we hunting dwuks!
Hhahhhahahaha | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 8:30:39 AM |
Okay, I'm going to get serious here for a moment. Hate me if you want to.
I'm AGAINST gun control. Yes I know I'm a woman. And it's rare.
I own a gun. It was given to me by my dad for my 18th birthday. I keep it within reach of where I sleep.
Imagine someone breaks into your house. Home invasion robberies are common in the States. I don't know how it is in Canada. The invaders are usually armed. And they're not armed with guns obtained legally. So you're asleap and your home is invaded by a guy toting a gun. Are you going to go after him with fists? With a baseball bat? Are you going to hide under the dining room table? I, personally, am not.
I'm going to protect myself. I've been trained to do so.
So if gun control gets more strict, who's going to be on the losing side here? The people who get them legally? Or the people who get them illegally.
Do you people honestly think that if the rules become more strict it will lessen the amount of illegal firearms on the street? Right. Drugs are illegal too, but they're still there. All gun control is going to do is make easier victems.
Jeff Foxworthy made a joke that actually applies here. He describes two houses. One with a mowed lawn, flower beds, shining clean driveway. The second house has waist high grass, peeling paint, and a car motor hanging from a tree. He said which one is going to get robbed? The answer was, not the house with the high grass BECAUSE THERE'S A GUN IN THERE.
If everyone were armed, and knew how to properly use their weapons, there would be less crime. If the bad guys knew that most people had guns and were willing and trained to use them, they'd be a bit more hesitant to commit the crime, wouldn't they? Take Switzerland. Everyone there is armed. Most carry concealed weapons. Lowest crime rate in the world. Something to think about.
Anyway.. I know I'll get flack for this, but that's life. And that's my opinion.
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imagine this, a home invasion occures in your house! he has a gun, you have a gun. You're asleep and he's now looking over you with his weapon. Who's going to win that one? you try to pull your gun from your night stand. He pulls the trigger. You're done! If you never went for your gun perhaps things could have turned for the better. Just don't act so tough and secure because daddy bought you a legal gun! have you ever pulled it on someone before? have you ever fired in self defense? do you even know what the pressure and feelings flowing through you are like when you have your a gun pointed at another humane being? don't act like the answer is in the chamber. Go ahead and fire that bullet, and when it's all done and you or he/she is now lying on the floor tell me again if you would ever pull that trigger on someone else.
P.s now that let's say you were the one lying on the floor, i'm pretty sure that person will disarm you and have in his hands your gun. Probably they will give to a different thug and it's now another weapon in the hands of the wrong person. Self defense? i hardly think so! For the same price as a gun, get a home security alarm if your so concerned of invasions. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 9:23:05 AM |
canadian, shut up before i come up there and shut you up. our right to free speech does not extend to you.
lol...i don't think you have the intelligence to find our country. Also, how old are you really? "i'm gonna beat you poopie head" lol it's pretty much what you sounded like.
BRINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG IT,LITTLE MAN LMAO  | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 9:30:23 AM | well maybe u people are right bout te gun thing, but it should be responsible people who own guns,
its a true fact that some people who own guns shouldnt own them
but how do u stop them
just how would u consider be a way to get gun violence down in your country, whats a solution. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 9:36:28 AM | Canada. Where's that?
Just kidding.
More strick laws against violence. Sometimes I think the laws were invented to protect the criminals. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 9:43:35 AM |
its a true fact that some people who own guns shouldnt own them
but how do u stop them
Your right some people shouldn't own them. They're called criminals.
just how would u consider be a way to get gun violence down in your country, whats a solution.
Go after the criminals with guns would be a great start. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 9:48:40 AM |
how about two fists? would drop the death toll for sure.
I can snap someones neck just as fast as I can pull a trigger, jamming someones nose up their brain with your palm can kill before a bullet lodged in a brain can, a closed fist to the temple can kill also.
My point behind all of these is; if people want to kill someone, they will. whether its with fists, a knife, a gun, or a shoelace. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 10:07:22 AM | ^^^highly doubt you can, needless to say "if you can" 90% can't and don't know how to do it. So to say fists cause or can cause as much death as a gun is a not true. If let's say it were true then why don't armies save money and a charge a hill using the "fists way"?
p.s before people star attacking me thinking that by my posts are bashing the u.s I'M NOT! i'm speaking of guns in general, no specific area. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 10:28:50 AM |
most people should not own a gun, most dont know how to use them
True, most people should not own guns, mainly the ones that get them illegally, in which case none of them should own guns. For us law abiding citizens, tougher gun laws only make it tougher for those that follow laws anyway. And, those that do follow the laws DO know how to use them. Gun Safety is a must.
most americans dont know their geography, most dont even know where iraq is on a map,
Actually, since thats all thats been on TV for the past years, I think its safe to say the entire world knows where Iraq is.
talk about ignorance, most americans think canadians live in igloos.
You dont?!?!?!? When did you guys learn to use materials not made of frozen water to build houses? Have you moved to wooden frames yet? (Walks away dumbfounded and shaking head)
state of alabama has a 80% of people there dont know how to read properly,
So, whats the percentage of Canadians that dont know how to speak proper English.
More properly , 80% of the people in the state of Alabama dont know how to read properly.
for example, state of alabama has a 80% of people there dont know how to read properly, so what does that say. inconclusion get rid of your guns!
What does this have to do with the price of apples on Tuesday?
Cant read, so get rid of your guns. I know two plus two is supposed to equal four, but with this line I keep coming up with three. I dont see the correlation here.
since when was the last time steven seagal broke into your house
Have you seen this guys kung fu? He doesnt need a stinking gun to break into your house, if he wants in, you let him in, and if your lucky he'll just take what he wants and leave. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 10:50:48 AM | First off, I'm not attacking. There are issues the two of us have agreed on, and there will be ones that we dont...this happens to be one of them.
90% can't and don't know how to do it.
People learn quickly when motivated, remember it only takes 8lbs of pressure to squash the human skull like a watermelon.
If let's say it were true then why don't armies save money and a charge a hill using the "fists way"?
All members of our military are trained to kill with their hands, but whats more feasible against someone who straps bombs to themselves? Firing from a distance, or running up to them to hit em with your fists. Obviously firing at them. When they get to close we here about on the news. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 11:03:55 AM | Believe it or not, I'm not singling you out. You just happen to have points to debate
imagine this, a home invasion occures in your house! he has a gun, you have a gun. You're asleep and he's now looking over you with his weapon. Who's going to win that one? you try to pull your gun from your night stand. He pulls the trigger. You're done! If you never went for your gun perhaps things could have turned for the better.
From a womans standpoint: I'd rather go for the gun and be shot point blank, then be held at gunpoint, tied up, raped, and then maybe get shot in the head.
From my standpoint: If your standing over me with a gun, in my house. One of us is going to die. I'm not gonna let someone just walk in and have at it in my castle. You can call me stupid, insane, or whetever, but Im not letting someone break into my house and ask them if they need a hand carrying anything. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 11:45:20 AM | | One of the few things that separate us from other countries is our right to bear arms. Gun control in theory wouldn't be TOO bad, if they could apply it to the people who need the guns the worst, CRIMINALS. I currently operate an FFL (Federal Firearms License) which requires me to submit a form 4473 background check through NCIC on every gun sale. Criminals don't buy weapons here; they can't pass the background check. In addition, gun control would have virtually no effect on terrorism. Case in point, the McMurrow building, gasoline, and fertilizer. I don't think our gun laws have any impact on other countries, anyway, except for making you feel inferior. Most crimes committed with firearms are committed with stolen guns, except for crimes of passion. Stats indicate that just as many killings occur using alternative weaponry ,including knives, baseball bats, tire irons, golf clubs, poison, rope, scarves, etc. I have a few firearms, mostly hunting weapons, and one revolver. I've never pointed a weapon at anyone in my life, and would only do so if I were threatened with deadly force. Here's an issue that hasn't been addressed; what if you live in an area, such as Canada, where there are natural predators, such as bear, or mountain lions, or wild boar? In the state of Alaska, it's recommended if you go into the "woods", you take something big enough to defend yourself against big game. Wouldn't gun control also interfere in that? There ARE situations that call for it, including those of law enforcement. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 11:54:47 AM | i would'nt allow them to take what they want either, but i'd asses the situation. meaning if someones in my house, and a gun is not safely reachable then obviously it's goign to be a fight. I'd rather use my hands in this type of scenerio then a gun. It's more personal with hands. On the other hand, when working with the army yes guns are needed. But they are not for home personal use. And un-armed combat is usually used for last means of defense.
but the point i'm trying to get across is if the public and thugs don't have guns then you cannot say that there would be no decline in deaths. I can't see someone taking a chance doing a home invasion with a bat, it would be hard to take out a whole household with a single bat. Crimanals would be to scared because the weapons they are left with are knives and bats etc..while the police have guns.
ya i know you're not attacking, and i also agree and disagree with your points. It's the fun part about the forums.
have a good one! | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 11:55:29 AM | | Good post jr, we clearly have gun controls in Canada, but it's not hard to get a rifle. Hunting is a legitimate use for a gun - you don't need teflon coated bullets to bring down a deer though. I grew up with guns, had a .22 when I was 5. But, there is are reasonable restrictions that can be applied yet the NRA invariably opposes them. Assault weapons aren't for hunting, you can tell the guy who's never been in the woods cause he's the one with the handgun. You have a drug industry that by it's nature rewards the most ruthless individuals, and yet you have easy and ready access to ridiculous weaponry. You just need to look around and you see what a dangerous mix that is. | |
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Posted: 8/8/2005 1:03:31 PM | As for Teflon bullets or the Black Talons which split into shards and will go through a bullet proof vest, it's not like cops are getting mowed down by the droves. The number of cops getting shot and actually dying is a very small number.
One thing I find a little funny: You can own a gun and get a permit to conceal and carry it. But it's against the law to wear a bullet proof vest. Wierd.
When the cops start to disarm the thugs, gangs, and criminals I'll consider some gun control. But since that will never happen I don't have to worry about it. | |
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