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hello all i live in london england were we are not allowed to arm our police or ourselves and i have read all your posts about gun control. I dont advocate violence or carrying knives or guns but in our country it will soon head that way ...

The dirty little secret of the Gulf War is that "friendly fire" accounted for 24 percent of the U.S. dead. A rate this high is not an inevitable consequence of the "fog of war." According to a study done at the Army's Command and General Staff College, "friendly fire" casualties accounted for less than 2 percent of all those occurring in battle during World War II, Korea, and Vietnam. Nor was the Gulf War statistic skewed by one or two anomalous incidents—the Pentagon found that during the 100-hour Desert Storm ground war, there were 27 separate cases of fratricide. No, what has happened is not inevitable—it's the result of expanding our offensive capability in such areas as night-fighting and beyond-visual-range targeting without commensurately expanding our capability to identify targets. This is like a car company building bigger engines without building better brakes.

The US right to keep and bear arms was derived from English Common Law. In fact, English statutes are cited in the most recent US Supreme Court decision, discussing the individual right of gun ownership. If I recall correctly, it was on the basis of English Law, that the Court made the majority decision that firearms ownership in the US is an individual right.

The gun control issue will likely be argued for many years to come. However, for the moment, the US Supreme Court has ruled that the right to keep and bear arms is an Individual Right, that pre-existed the drafting of the US Constitution.

Now how to prevent the flakes from easy access while not infringing upon the abilities of normal, sane and stable citizens if they so choose? As I've said before, looking from the outside the vast majority of the problem seems to stem from varying rules and regulations between each state (which are usually so geographically small that laws in one are easily bypassed simply by going for a short drive). FEDERAL gun control which is uniformly applied requiring thorough background checks, adequate training, stiff penalties for use of firearms in the commission of any crime and stiffer penalties for illegal sales would be the best place to start. Minor variations only being in the hands of individual states as many have mentioned the only people likely to voluntarily follow a law is a law abiding citizen which is not your target for the control. And honestly the NRA would be far more believable if they supported prosecution of dealers making illegal sales just as much as they oppose those hoping to outright ban guns. Those dealers are the reason or atleast a big part of the reason there are too many guns in the wrong hands in the 1st place.
I could be wrong though, since from south of the border we hear mostly all or nothing type BS which serves no one and solves nothing. But I have been convinced that it can't really be that black and white but rather the media showcasing the most foolish examples of both ends of the spectrum.

Oh and for any inter-state sale to be legal the dealer should be required to ensure the item shipped complies with any of the local minor state variations i.e. Maximum magazine capacity for a given calibre. Prevents an easy bypass and an otherwise honest citizen from becoming an unwitting felon.

In 2004, guns murdered 5 people in New Zealand, 37 in Sweden, 56 in Australia, 73 in England and Wales, 184 in Canada, and 11,344 in the United States....

i could really go on a rant here from local cops attitude to the feds, but won't.
all i say is, keep those guns handy, we're going to need them for the next revolution.

am anti-gun, all in all, and feel the American "way" of citizens being armed, and so forth, is unacceptable and yet another way America is very backward socially compared to other Western democracies, *IMO*. I don't feel there's any need for anyone to own a firearm (much less carry one on a daily basis!!) unless one is a police officer in an inner-city area perhaps , on-duty. Other than that, regardless of what anyone says, IMO if America re-amended the Constitution to effectively ban guns and made gun possession a serious crime punishable by prison in and of itself you will see the gun violence rate in this country drop dramatically. It's the way of the future, one way or the other. If not for this generation then for a future one certainly.