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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/11/2005 11:17:31 AM |
Never thought I'd say it, but trvlingman has a point.
The good stuff is artistic expression in an interesting genre
The bad (most of it) is about as lasting and meaningful as a sales jingle
But hasn't commercial music always been that way?
As far as I know music has not always been about making money. Most people here remember the 80's better than I do, I was born half way through the decade but still even I remember bits of what was going on at the time. Remember all the so called great artists that ended up being one hit wonders? Where are they now, absolutely no where with their careers. Thats because all those in the industry cared about was making money. In the 60's and 70's no one cared about being rich, it was all about the music. The music industry as we know it today puts out all these 2 bit artists who think they are musicians. People make stupid claims about the genres of music they play, ie Avril Lavine is not a punk artist as she claims to be, I could really piss someone off and say that Diana Krall and Norah Jones are not jazz artists either. They are just really dumbed down pop versions of the real thing. You want good vocal jazz artists, listen to someone like Sara Vaughan or Billie Holiday, you want real punk, listen to The Sex Pistols or The Ramones, thats examples of people who actually play their genres of music. | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/11/2005 11:33:20 AM | guitarman,
You said a mouthful, and I agree. It's just a matter of time. Last night my local PBS station played a Clapton special. It was a tribute to Robert Johnson. Some really nice guitar work, as you would expect from Clapton. Give me the "old" guys any time. One thing I admire about the likes of Clapton, of which there aren't too many, is, he can adapt and play many different types of music. Now that takes real talent! 35 or 40 years from now, nobody will know who Snoop Dog, Puff Daddy (or whatever his name is this week) or any of the rap "artists" are.
You can take all rappers, roll them all up into a ball together combined, and you wouldn't get a halfwit out of them! | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/11/2005 3:51:24 PM | | Wow yall are hatin Hip Hop huh ... well all I have to say is Hip Hop isn't going anywhere ever it's the voice of the majority of people... and I hate to tell ya this but Hip Hop well be in your kids history class but it will continue to grow and grow .. there's no stopping it ... we had to sacarfice 2-Pac and Biggie to bring hip hop to this level and it's growing and will continue to grow think about it ... Hip Hop started in the 80's and is stronger then any other music there is ... yall are right in years to come people may not know who Snoop and Puff is but I dought it plus you have artist like 50 Cent and his G-Unit crew people can hate all they want but they can make rhymes like them have people all in the club jumpin and singing along to their songs .... whats going to happen and mark my words people who don't like nor listion to hip hop will become the minority .. and as far as Crunk music goes hell no that ain't going away not for very long time | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/11/2005 6:12:00 PM | i saw a special on the tube how gangs are recruiting new members threw
hip hop or rap.aw man dat ain't music that is hate.
i am close to someone into this crap.22 yrs old been in jail twice
fresh out of his 3rd rehab.lol | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/11/2005 9:42:36 PM | there is still some good hip/hop coming out... it's more of a summer genre..
i find the best new releases come out first of summer. | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/11/2005 9:43:24 PM | besides, why SHOULD hiphop die???
alternative and metal have stuck around for YEARS, w/o one or the other we'd only have country music, and who wants that!!!!!!
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/12/2005 12:17:21 AM | word wabuno...word
you are right hip hop is here to stay
as long as there are 20 yr drunk women that want to go dancing
it is all good | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/12/2005 3:15:27 PM |
i saw a special on the tube how gangs are recruiting new members threw
hip hop or rap.aw man dat ain't music that is hate.
i am close to someone into this crap.22 yrs old been in jail twice
fresh out of his 3rd rehab.lol
Skin Heads use all brands of music to attract new members.
Christians use all brands of music to attrack new followers.
Bill Gates uses the Rolling Stones, Brian Eno, David Bowie, etc to attract new users.
It's really not a hip-hop thing. | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/12/2005 3:23:52 PM | televiper
i think his point is
hip hop has this ganster mentality
not too many of bill gates crew are popping caps in each other's asss
nor the christian or skin heads | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/13/2005 6:50:19 PM | I can't wait till hip hop, r and b, aything rap, pop, bubblegum music, techno, dance, latin, electronica, reggae, emo, modern punk and rock, Indie, folk, christian, country, anything that takes no musical skills what so ever, something even a blind ape could do. I can't wait till all of them are gone and forgotten, just dead. Theyre skilless fads. | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/13/2005 7:24:59 PM | Holy sh!t dude, do you like anything???
Skilless fads huh? Please tell me you are joking here.
While I may not like all of the genres you've listed, there is no way in hell anyone can deny the talent it takes to actually play most of those types of music. I may not like all types of music, but I can at least appreciate and give credit to those who play something.
I'll give you some of them (hip hop, techo, electronica, rap) just because almost all of it is just put together on a computer from samples, no live musicians. But even some of these do write their own lyrics, some, not all. I just dont see how you can lump live music in with electronic. | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 8/13/2005 7:43:16 PM | | I like plenty of music, nothing modern though, and thats what I listed above, check my other posts to see what I like specifically if youre really curious | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/1/2005 12:25:02 AM | I totally understand what's being said here, I personally think it's bullsh*t that all this hip hop shit and rap crap have completely taken over not only what WAS MTV, but the air waves too and has been allowed to brush the whole metal scene into the closet. You just can't hear good metal or anything close on the radio anymore, at least not here in WA, but you sure can find plenty of that bullshi* hip hop and rap. It should have died long ago, but I suppose they keep it alive so they can be considered PC, afterall, if we didn't give all those dope smokin, gang bangin ho pimpin bruthas a chance then we'd be called bigots and accused of discrimination, too bad I say. Gimme some good ol metal again anyday!!  | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/1/2005 5:57:52 PM | find the underground hiphop thread and listen 2 some of that...its soulful and good. think about it some of the biggest influences on hiphop are jazz , FUNK , SOUL, ROCK, all the genres of music. you just gotta get off the beaten path. hiphop is so educated...and in my opinion holds society 2gether. | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/1/2005 6:07:28 PM |
I can't wait till hip hop, r and b, aything rap, pop, bubblegum music, techno, dance, latin, electronica, reggae, emo, modern punk and rock, Indie, folk, christian, country, anything that takes no musical skills what so ever, something even a blind ape could do. I can't wait till all of them are gone and forgotten, just dead. Theyre skilless fads.
wow the ignorance in that is unbelieveable. I am all for hating mainstream crap like emo, hip hop, rap and country cause lets face it, its all the same repetitive crap over and over again but still that doesnt give you the right to bash stuff that is good. I will admit that new age music blows but even I have my limits. | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/5/2005 7:26:42 AM | mcbobly,
If you don not like Hip-hop, then don't listen to it. It's that simple. What do you want to see in the top ten? How would this benefit you? Charts say nothing but record sales. I agree rap is pretty much crap anymore, so I don't listen to it as much. But there a few artist who are playing with live bands and using the influence of "Spoken Word". So Hip-hop could change, but if it is up to Corporate Executives to produce it, then It will not get the air play it deserves. If you think about is there anything good on the radio now anyway? Why is everyone so bitter over Hip-hop, when you can just turn off the radio? Do you think it's taking something away from you? Are you guys upset that it more popular than Heavy Metal? It's all up to corporate executives. Heavy Metal is just as bad as some Hip-hop, but people will listen just because it's metal. Hip hop is not kept around to be 'PC", that's stupid! Hip-hop is around because it sells, it's that simple | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/5/2005 8:01:14 AM | | Also to the misinformed "Puffy" who is called "P Diddy" is a mogul, he will be around for a very long time. He's loaded, he's not a rapper...He is a producer. There is a big difference. I just think you guys like to say the name "Puffy". I can understand people not liking "Rap", but don't sound so stupid about it. Puffy and Snoop have already been around for over 10 years, where's Motley Crue...Reality TV. Talk about sell outs. | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/5/2005 11:08:48 AM | Hello Motley crew sell outs ... ist the darn media that sold out on them ... dont get me started on that subject ... you know all the genres have their fans ... so be it ... i dont like hip hop rap what have u i stayed with rock moved to metal and always will be a fan of that ... its music still made by hands ... but sell out well what defines sell out ... to me sell out is when one changes their style to feed of the media hyped trend to make money of poor kids that get it stuffed in their face day by day that it is cool and u have to like it or be out ... thats what sell out means ... not if u stay in your genre and make it ... so thats a sellout ... not staying with your roots but to switch to trend ...
have a nice day
keep on rockin in the free world
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/5/2005 11:59:52 AM | -you like hoes
-shiney rims
-pimpin
-spending mad cash at the club
mabey some of you should try listening to more than the 30 seconds on much or mtv.
most rap good rap anyway is about life.
and on a side note. if you want to hear a downright evil bastard.
try downloading something by necro. this guy cracks me up | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/5/2005 12:04:25 PM | MTV ???? whats that ... sorry to media hyped ... you hear the same song 20 times a day and night ( at least in europe ) more commercial about mobile rings and nick nacks ... and bullshit reporters like kafka ... brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ...
i rather not watch tv then if it ment to be made insane ...
soulless keep on rocking in the free world | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/5/2005 1:10:56 PM | | rap will never die, it is way too big, it may evolve slightly but thats about it, so saying its crap and not real music etc. won't change anything...now where's my reign in blood cd | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/5/2005 1:17:14 PM | Hip Hop is here to stay. Those who don't understand that simply do not understand the history of RockNRoll,Blues nor Jazz. To the poster that ask if there will be tribute albulms to rappers in 30-40 years......MOST LIKELY! Hip Hop has been around for about 30 yrs and has changed the course of RocknRoll back to its original intention.....DANCE! Rock FAILED when the metalist took dance beats out because they did not understand the music's history/soul. Will Hip Hop last? It has and will,because it is a part of the celebration of life through musical expression to which people can DANCE! THIS is what RockNRoll is in its essence.Jazz,Blues,RockNRoll and Hip Hop are all a part of the same continuum.Actually, you can add Salsa,Merengue,Soca,Ska,Raggae,Reggaeton,Sons,Zouk,Zydecoe to that continuum.They are all related genre that will last forever.
Those who bash Hip Hop, point at the weaker acts rather than the substanative acts. You can do the same to ANY genre and it is senseless to do so.Gil Scott Heron Nas,Pac,PE,Africa Bambatta,Mellie Mel,KRS-1,LL,EricB&Rakim,Outkast,Last Poets,Fuggees, and younger artist MOS Def,Common,Talib Kweli,Kanye West,Floetry and MANY other old school and new artist not mentioned here will be remembered. If you haven't heard these artist...your loss.
Those who hate on Hip Hop yet claim to love RockNRoll show that they NEVER understood its history nor felt its soul | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/5/2005 7:51:11 PM | | It has it's posers and it's genuine stars for sure. There's alot of crap out there but those rare big hits from the established and truely creative artists crush them. | |
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| IS it me or should HIP HOP be DEAD YET?
Posted: 9/5/2005 11:45:33 PM | Everything on the top ten is garbage.
I'm not surprised that people hate hip hop.
All the rap I see on tv and hear on the radio is trash.
But I think hip hop is like poetry..
Hip hop can touch you.. it can inspire you.. Just like any other music genre.
The problem with todays hiphop is that the artists aren't passionate about their music.
That is because 14yr old girls dictate who is on the top 10.
And rappers that should NEVER BE SIGNED are selling platinum.
Why? Again.. Because of 14 year old girls..
Those girls don't care about subject matter or talent.
..and those rappers don't care about their own music either..
Those rappers are only concerned with money and women.
Imagine if Jimi Hendrix only did it for the money...
But back on topic..
No. Hip Hop cannot die anytime soon.
It has blossomed into a culture.
All of Bronx NY is hip hop.
People there "live" hip hop.
And again, the fluff you hear on the radio isn't hiphop. It is garbage.
..If I could recommend a universal rap song that I think everyone would feel...
It would be "2pac - Unconditional Love"..
That song is what I mean when I say rap is like poetry.
Just listen to the words. That song has broke me down to tears before.
If an artform can invoke such strong emotions in people, it is truly an artform, and will not die. | |
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