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Posted: 7/1/2005 6:41:16 AM | I like th way you think...religeous monsters... | |
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Posted: 11/19/2005 7:55:52 PM | | Well not down anyones throut but just be nice and polite about it . | |
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Posted: 11/19/2005 9:13:51 PM | | omg... no pun intended, but i can't believe this thread is still going. | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 11/19/2005 9:16:36 PM | | I don't force anyone into my faith, if you're not a christian good for you, that doesn't mean I won't date you/marry you whatever. But I am also not going to pretend I am not what I am. My best friend, on the other hand, does push and she has scared guys that I have dated off on more then one occasion. All I can say is, I can't force anyone to believe what I believe. | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 11/20/2005 4:22:58 PM | "So perhaps you can exsplain to me what's the big deal about spiritual and religious people raving about their faith life. Is it different from me raving about the choir I joined or a fantastic Thai restaurant that I think everyone HAS to try."
Wow, do you really think that that is a valid analogy? There is a world of difference between raving about a new thai restaurant and proselytizing. Unless of course the conversation went something like this-
Zeal- Have you tried that new Thai restaurant over on third?
Frank- No, I don't like Thai food.
Zeal- Have you tried this Thai food though?
Frank- seriously, I'm not interested.
Zeal- Just come with me once and try it out. How can you know unless you try?
Frank- I'm just not partial to that style of food. I'm really a meat and potatoes guy.
Zeal- It's for your sake that I want you to go. Once you taste it, you will won't know how you ever got along without it.
Frank- No thanks.
Zeal- But eating at this restaurant is the only way your immortal soul will be saved.
Frank- That sounds loony to me.
Zeal- But it's the truth. I know because it's in the menu.
Frank- look, I don't want to get into a metaphysical discussion with you.
Zeal- But I care about your soul
Frank- I don't even know you. You just walked up to me, and I really need to get my shopping done now.
Zeal- First promise me that you'll read this at least.
Frank- What is this?
Zeal- It's the menu.
Frank- Really, I'm not interested.
Zeal- but how can you know if you've never tried it.
Frank- Please...
Zeal- Just try the appetizers.
Frank- I really....
Zeal- What have you got to..... owwww. Why did you hit me? | |
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Hokage
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 1/12/2006 10:15:41 AM | Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Because they 'know' that what they believe is so.. just as a flat earthist 'knows' the world is flat. There is absolutly no convincing them of anything other wise because they "know" it is so, unless you are actually able to show them.. but how do you that? Take the flat eathist on a journey to the edge of the world to look over the side, the course must be controlled movement in a straight line on the lines of lattitude to get there of course.. and when you once again return to where you began then you will be able convince the flat earthist that world is at least cylindrical, he or she can then take it on faith that if you travel in the same way on the lines of longatude that the earth is in fact a sphere and not a square.. the same applies to the Christian belief system, unless you show them in a way that helps them to understand.. they will press and press and press so that you know what they know. Possitive intent to help all of us sinners into the kingdom, they're just confused that some of us are looking towards the sphere and not just the square.
The flat earthest example comes from a lecture series by Alan Watts. | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 1/12/2006 10:47:20 AM | Take the flat eathist on a journey to the edge of the world to look over the side, the course must be controlled movement in a straight line on the lines of lattitude to get there of course.. and when you once again return to where you began then you will be able convince the flat earthist that world is at least cylindrical, he or she can then take it on faith that if you travel in the same way on the lines of longatude that the earth is in fact a sphere and not a square..
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That example really doesn't work because that's something that you can PHYSICALLY prove.Can't really do that with Christianity or any other relgion for that matter.
The Christian who tries to convert you in practicing his Great Commision.He is fueled by emotion,his or her zeal.They fell they have found contentment in their faith and that their eternal destiny is sealed.It gives them comfort and they feel that they should spread that.They also believe that there will be more rewards for them in the afterlife for the souls they lead to Christ so there is some selfish intent as well.Kind of like salesmen who work on commision. | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 1/12/2006 10:51:38 AM | Because they 'know' that what they believe is so.. just as a flat earthist 'knows' the world is flat. There is absolutly no convincing them of anything other wise because they "know" it is so, unless you are actually able to show them.. but how do you that? Take the flat eathist on a journey to the edge of the world to look over the side, the course must be controlled movement in a straight line on the lines of lattitude to get there of course.. and when you once again return to where you began then you will be able convince the flat earthist that world is at least cylindrical, he or she can then take it on faith that if you travel in the same way on the lines of longatude that the earth is in fact a sphere and not a square.. the same applies to the Christian belief system, unless you show them in a way that helps them to understand.. they will press and press and press so that you know what they know. Possitive intent to help all of us sinners into the kingdom, they're just confused that some of us are looking towards the sphere and not just the square.
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A square peg in a round hole. I find what I don`t know to be far more intriquing than answered questions.
For insance God said to Solomon that he would be wise and no one before or after would be wiser, and yet Jesus said " a greater than Solomon is here." | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 1/12/2006 11:07:58 AM | I think that if you can involve a close minded person into an open ended conversatoin that continuely shows example of continuous self contradtion it is very possible for the them to come into understanding something beyond what they believe that they know. The success of the conversation could then be used to show the difference of believing what they know verses understanding what they know. There are many ways of proving things to be right or wrong without 'physical' proof.
I personally believe that is only a matter of time before we won't need to worry about forced opinion and threads with subjects of the like. Christianity has been stagnent for so long, and everything has the inevitability of change... but then again, that's only my opinion. | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 1/16/2006 2:15:20 PM | The Great Commission is why Christians have the need or authority to spread God's word=
both these quotes are the last words in each of these Gospel Letters and as such the
Last words Jesus uttered unto them........................................
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Matthew chapter 28 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
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Mark chapter 16 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
15He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. 16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."
19After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. 20Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
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I guess this is the Authority Christians needed and is the basis for most mmissions....... | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 1/17/2006 9:30:17 PM | ...because it's one thing to help your friend cram for exam's but another
thing altogether to save them from eternal damnation. Belief is strong - if
I didn't believe then I wouldn't waste my time trying to rescue my friend.
That said, I never thump the bible on my buddies - they only know when, for ie,
on Saturday we were caught in a wicked snow storm and I told them God was my co-pilot LOL!!! We laughed but they knew underneath
the hysterical laughter I was praying hard. | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 1/17/2006 10:26:20 PM | Now that I look back I think organized religion might have been a bad idea. For all the good that comes from it there is almost an equal negative effect. At age 6 I looked at my roman cathilic church and said to myself "I think these people are crazy". I have yet to return, this is not to say it does not have its own uses. My thought is that I am not a sheep in need of guiding, I will find my own way to salvation and god alone will guide me. If it is my fate to burn then I do so willingly. I am my own temple and so is every man and woman, if you need another for moral support then any good hearted person can help you. I think it really doesnt matter what or who you worship because if god is a perfect being then it doesnt care because if it demanded our pray so strongly that would be pridful.
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 1/18/2006 6:26:38 PM |
I hate how they are "always right" , have to have the last word and are never open to any other points of view.
Let people do what they want and let Them worry about any "afterlife" consequences. Mind your own beeswax and I'll get along with ya just fine.
Sorry lol that's grand. | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 2/7/2006 10:04:15 PM | Go and rent the movie "Saved".
It is a brilliant look at how Christian right wingers sometimes all too easily forget the basic values of their religion - and become religious monsters.
That's the best movie ever! Reminded me of the church I use to attend, scarey really LOL And in response to the OP: It's because their Bible commands them to do so. | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 4/19/2006 6:32:49 AM | hhmmm i understand u airing your feelings, but each religeon to their own i say.. there are many people who would say the same regarding another religeon, and what they believe what is right and what is wrong. I in my opinion i would keep comments like that to myself as it only opens up a can of worms. why should it bother you if you think its twoddle? just agree it's not the religeon that is for u. As for the laws we are on on this planet to use them as a guide line. I say what ever you wish to believe as a religeon.. believe in it as long as it isn't hurting anyway who cares. | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 8/22/2007 12:10:14 PM | Because the BIBLE is Clear in what it directs Christians to do :::::::::
Matthew 28:16- (New International Version)
The Great Commission
16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go.
17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted.
18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
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Matthew 28:19 Or into; see Acts 8:16; 19:5; Romans 6:3; 1 Cor. 1:13; 10:2 and Gal. 3:27 | |
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 8/22/2007 12:37:13 PM | Islam does not idealy recruit by persuasion. Example is the method that is supposed to be used according to quaran. Muslims are ppl they arent perfect and I'm sure some have veared from that. But our book teaches that the method of conversion should be by example.
If people see something and chose it as opposed to having it forced on them, or being persuaded into something. Their intention are more sincere and they will make better muslims. Just from the simple fact that they chose islam, and it wasnt chosen for them.
When was the last time a muslim knocked at your door to spead the word of the quaran?
as opposed to
19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
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| Why do Christians feel the need to press their religous belief's on people?
Posted: 9/17/2007 9:57:55 PM | | Once Christians get deep enough into their faith - a lot of them will lead by example, not force. The thing is - it's a choice to choose God. It's not up to anyone to TELL you to have faith. For me, I try to just live a life of faith to the best of my ability, and if anyone ASKS me about it - that's different. IMHO, people of faith who are up in someone's face don't know better yet. I'm sorry for you that you have had that experience, and I'm sorry for me, that people like that give Christians a bad name. | |
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