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longte
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Joined: 10/18/2004
Msg: 24 | |
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Posted: 8/11/2005 5:11:30 PM | 'How do you plan to remove the drugs?
Do you plan to legalize them too? I mean, that would follow the same logic. Make everything legal so we dont have to worry about criminals.
When do you suggest this sort of thinking ends? '
In Australia, and I can only speak of here, prostitution used to be made up of three groups of people
First you had a Pimp
He found a woman , or street kid, and got them hooked, usually on heroin
Then you had the woman, kid [see above], who is now hooked on drugs and has to get money by whatever means
Lastly you had the dealer
He supplied the pimp with the drugs for the women he controlled
Once you remove the pimp from the picture, you remove the drugs
As I said previously, it took two years to clean it up here
But it did clean itself up very well
There are still occassional problems, but nothing like before
Street crime in the inner city is way down
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Posted: 8/11/2005 5:34:28 PM | He found a woman , or street kid, and got them hooked, usually on heroin
Just a point here, that can occur, Prostitution Laws or not.
Although I have little in the Way of Stats, Drug Usage is often quite rampant already before she even becomes aware she has a Problem and then sometimes seeks the protection of a Pimp to acquire Money to purchase Drugs.
First and foremost she get addicted to drugs, more often through association of her Peers.
Its when the problem gets out of Control that she ends up connnecting up with Drug Dealers and Pimps. And yes, there have been plenty of Stories in the Papers about Pimps seeking out young/new girls, but its not that common up this way.
Once you remove the pimp from the picture, you remove the drugs
That I know isn't necessarily true, as many do not rely on Pimps for Drugs. Once they have become hooked on Drugs, they prostitute themselves, Pimp or no Pimp.
My only point here, Prostitution comes about because of a drug Problem. Very few hard Addicts ever shake it. They get sent to rehab, then they lapse again. Needle-exchange programs also haven't helped. Skid Row is still expanding despite all well-meant efforts.
I have spoken with many in the Police Force that have worked this beat for Decades.
The majority die before they ever break their Drug Habits. And they will prostitute themselves right down to the end, Regulations or not.
Setting up licensed Brothels will not get rid of that problem, as its too closely tied in with Drugs, Life & Death. Short of watching someone 24 hours a day, or sending them off to Prison or Labour Camps, there is not much in terms of Rehabs that would work with any Level of Consistancy.
No arguments here ... just some points to consider ... | |
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Posted: 8/11/2005 5:46:43 PM | | I don't know much about it....never visited one before! :) | |
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longte
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Joined: 10/18/2004
Msg: 27 | |
| legal prostitution
Posted: 8/11/2005 6:17:04 PM | I can only go by what I saw happen here
This is a very different country, with a small population
But street crime dropped
The number of street kids who were drawn into prostitution dropped
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Posted: 8/11/2005 8:02:26 PM | The number of street kids who were drawn into prostitution dropped
Is it maybe also not possible that the Gov't over there was running yet other programs to combat Crime, and that the legalization of Prostitution was not Item that reduced Crime?
I am asking this as I cannot see a possible Connection. But then things may be different over there. Up this way, if Prostitution were to become legalized, it would have little or no effect on the existing Drug/Prostitution Scene. It would probably just be an Add-on, with a different and newer clientel.
The Reason they bust down on it so heavily here is because of the Spread of Diseases, that legalizing Prostitution would not reduce that. Hence they have tightened the Laws, round them up, get them off the Streets.
From what I heard, the 'upscale' Prostitution Rings are generally not being bothered with by the Authorities as they have their Hands full with the Drug Addicts. | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 4:36:49 AM | Okay whats the real issue ...
Prostitution is the oldes business in the world and as some have said used to be an respectable one ... the only reason people are against it is because what they have in their mind ... and what they listen too ... as the world got modern and crime became more lucrative ( sometimes even lead on by goverment ( rescent scandal here is the giving visas to russian criminals ) and the sydicates ( also in the past lead on by goverments ) took over it started to become involved in crime ...
Prior to this people whispered behind held hands but no one actually said that it promoted crime ..
If a woman chose to sell her body for whatever reason and she even is willing to pay taxes on this, and goes by the laws ... what could be wrong ... we are talking to leagalize those going by the laws and stipulations not pimps and drugdealers ...
In Germany its already a legal job and it works better then any other system ... they even have educationcenters on it ...
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Posted: 8/12/2005 4:41:17 AM | Ticketoride : spread of illnesses in legalized prostitution is rare here ... and in most illegal places too and hey if your a client and are dumb enough in this day and age with all the information out there to go to such a place and do it without condom ... you must be daft ...
by the way the spread of HIV is more common by hetrosexualls living a normal life the tendency and statistics currently show that it is more likely transmitted in the middle class and more in the age range of 20-30 ... | |
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