| GAS PRICES!!! Posted: 9/2/2005 10:01:58 PM | | $8.00/gallon at some gas-station in georgia!.........thats NOT price gouging, thats whats called 'southern hospitality'.........live and learn my dear! | |
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| GAS PRICES!!! Posted: 9/2/2005 10:14:52 PM |
1.44 on the corner Esso here, in Calgary. I went in, I say - "you made a mistake - it supposed to be 1.14" She goes - "no."
We are the oil capital of Canada. As bad as it may sound - why can't we be protected by our own oil bank in a situation like this?
Easy way for retailers to excuse their long time hidden greed for extra profit?
Simple answer, free market system. Complicated answer, why should it be sold to you for less than it can be sold elsewhere ? Isn't that the system you voted for ? Isn't that the right of the owners of the products ?
Here in NS the price of gas hit 138.9 per litre today. We also produce alot of oil and gas.
I take the bus more and walk more than before. My car hasn't moved in 4 days. I am thinking seriously about getting a hybrid, or other type of fuel efficient vehicle, in the next year. I was going to buy a new car this year. NOT now for sure. | |
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| GAS PRICES!!! Posted: 9/3/2005 5:41:04 AM | let's take a quick look here at oil.
Most of it is used to produce plastics. Then oil (home heating, lubricants) then diesel, then gasoline, then aircraft fuel. (approximate uses only here...I don't have the chart any longer.) That is the list in order of usage of a barrel of crude.
A lot of the price of gas is actually taxes of all kinds, hidden taxes (which suck!) in Canada. In the States, they can't place a tax on a tax, from what I understand. (I could be wrong about that, and there may be exceptions.)
As far as hybrid cars and alternate fuels are concerned...right now the differences in price would make it about the same as if you ran an economic small car. A "balance" has been struck to keep the pricing like that...
The oil companies would like to say there have been refinery shut-downs, problems getting the oil to market, etc....total BS. It is reported more now AS AN EXCUSE for price gouging. Don't you think that fires, etc happen daily anyways at refineries world-wide, and never affected the market very much? But, all of a sudden a fire at one refinery makes the market for gas jump??? As I said...total BS.
For 10 years Iran was limited in the amount of oil they could export...now they can put out as much as they want...and there is a sudden shortage??? Doubt it....very much.
As far as "limited resources"...don't let the "green-earthers" scare you..there's plenty of oil there yet for the future. We could continue the use of oil at current levels for over ten thousand years WITHOUT finding new sources of oil. It's there....so don't be believing everything these idiots are saying...waving a red flag in front of our faces.
This tactic was used with great cunning by greenpeace....saw photos of a clear-cut area of forest by a river...it looked awful. Greenpeace was calling for a ban on clear cutting the area, but it was done anyways. Another photo 20 years later shows where it was replanted and it looks beautiful and peaceful. (my concern is with bio-diversity...planting tracts of the same species of tree that grows fast to produce a renewable resource...hmmm..need to plant more hardwood forests too...but, that's another thread...)
There IS a nuclear engine available...NASA developed it back in the 50's....but it was buried and lost. | |
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| GAS PRICES!!! Posted: 9/3/2005 6:08:39 AM | | Iam in Alberta Canada in a small town called pincher creek and the price as of yesterday was 93.9 | |
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| GAS PRICES!!! Posted: 9/3/2005 6:48:34 AM | I'm packed for Pincher Creek! I've been there, I miss Alberta big time.
it appears to be quite simple, we live in a free market economy.
Gasoline is a commodity most of us must have so "they" can charge whatever "they" want, as long as we are willing to pay. We will pay because most of us can't live without driving.
The price in the long term should "they" continue to gouge us, will be increased prices on almost everything, due to increased delivery costs. I'm pissed at this point.
What really gets my feathers ruffled is that we in Canada have enough oil production, along with reserves, to supply us (probably) forever. Why can't we buy our oil locally, have lower gas prices, lower prices on most other stuff we buy and as an added bonus attract tourists.
I am just one guy from Ontario, what do I know? I know I'm not going to do any leisure driving until Tuesday when the price goes down, but ever since it surpassed a dollar a litre, we may never see it below again.
Have a great labour day weekend. FYI If you're American, that's how we spell labor up here.
One last thing, buy shares in any oil producing company, may help offset your gas bill. | |
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| GAS PRICES!!! Posted: 9/3/2005 6:51:38 AM | Lastnight on my way to work I swear to god I saw the price at over $2/liter. On my way home this morning it was like 1.20/liter. WTF!?!?! 
This was over a 12 hour period... Does the market really fluxuate by that much in that amount of time? | |
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| GAS PRICES!!! Posted: 9/3/2005 6:54:42 AM | PEAK DEMAND
SOB's
What's next? | |
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| GAS PRICES!!! Posted: 9/3/2005 4:50:08 PM | read a piece the other day that stated that
crude oil prices had raised 60% ytd(year to date) heating oil raised 67% ytd natural gas raised 89%ytd unleaded gasoline raised 115% ytd
is it only me or does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture. time to regulate gas prices again like in the 70's <<<< | |
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| No, Libs have nothing to do with it, ImListening..... Posted: 9/3/2005 5:01:40 PM | | Why would their face be red? No, they did get cheap oil & are raising the prices because they can cause guys like you think; that they can do no wrong. The proof is that the right is running the government right now & you still blame the Libs for these fuel prices.As long as the right knows that you'll never hold them accountable; they can keep on raising prices & You'll just keep blaming people who aren't even in power anymore. | |
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| No, Libs have nothing to do with it, ImListening..... Posted: 9/3/2005 5:10:30 PM | | Well when it comes to gas I can only wish that I was in America right now. The prices that some of you American's are quoting is HALF of what we here in Canada are paying. Why is that? I don't understand...and that is with the conversion. I put $30 in my tank and it didn't even give me half and I have a small car. | |
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| GAS PRICES!!! Posted: 9/3/2005 5:12:02 PM | yna6:
As far as "limited resources"...don't let the "green-earthers" scare you..there's plenty of oil there yet for the future. We could continue the use of oil at current levels for over ten thousand years WITHOUT finding new sources of oil. It's there....so don't be believing everything these idiots are saying...
...ummm, you're joking right? if you want anyone to take you seriously, don't be absurd. | |
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| No, Libs have nothing to do with it, ImListening..... Posted: 9/4/2005 1:20:52 AM | LOL that never stoped me before........ no Im a responable driver i have a des.driver lined up my ex-brother in law hes cool but thanks for the tip LArry my mom said the same thing happen in 1974 I laughed at her | |
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| No, Libs have nothing to do with it, ImListening..... Posted: 9/4/2005 1:30:42 AM | One smart chicken restaurant chain in Montreal ( it's St. Hubert , for Montrealers here) has started to convert all it's delivery services to Smart cars. That's a brilliant idea, and they will also be easier to park in the crowded streets of Montreal.
http://www.mcuniverse.com/The_Smart_Car_Comes_to_Canada.1325.0.html
The fuel consumption is crazy-good: The combined rating is 3.5 litres per 100 kilometres, or 80 miles per gallon.
But the fuel tank is also crazy-small - just 22 litres, with 5 litres reserve. If you get max economy (like most cars, the Transport Canada numbers cannot usually be replicated in the real world) that will only take you 628 km.
In reality, you'll probably be filling up every 300-400 kilometres.
Still, in typical commute-mode, that might be every two or three days.
And I was never able to get more than twelve bucks worth of fuel into the car on any fill-up. You could get used to that.
I think that this type of thinking shows vision.
I am seeing more and more of these cars around, and it's perfect for economical inner city driving. It gets about the same gas milage as a scooter.
Smarts, which start at about $16,700 and top out around $23,000, are sold in 46 out of Canada's 55 Mercedes-Benz dealerships, helped in part by customer word-of-mouth.
The Smart's Canadian success and it's absence from the U.S. market is more evidence of how drivers in the two countries have taken different forks in the road, says DesRosiers.
The entry-level auto segment - from subcompacts like the Smart to cars like the Toyota Corolla - make up 40 per cent of the Canadian market and growing.
"In America it's 22 per cent and declining," says DesRosiers.
The large luxury-sports segment - which includes the biggest SUVs - make up about 10 per cent of Canadian sales, compared with 27 per cent in the United States.
Canadians bought just over 10,000 large SUVs last year, while Americans bought one million.
But even before pump prices passed the $1 psychological threshold, Smart car dealers were selling out of the tiny two-seat runabouts, which resemble oversized athletic shoes on wheels.
"The Smart has been exceptionally successful," says auto industry analyst Dennis DesRosiers. "For the type of vehicle it is, it's really struck a chord in Canada."
Smart, a unit of automotive giant DaimlerChrysler, was launched in Canada last fall after six years in the European marketplace.
Sales of 2,390 cars as of July seem small in Canada's 1.5-million annual auto sales but DesRosiers says Smart has outsold a host of mainstream models, including BMW and Mercedes SUVs, Cadillac, Suzuki and Mini Cooper.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1125059938426_31/?hub=SciTech | |
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| No, Libs have nothing to do with it, ImListening..... Posted: 9/4/2005 1:41:57 AM | I agree, and I don't even have ( or want ) a car right now. I can take a good public transit system, taxis, or rent cars when I need them - and am still ahead afterwards.
I live in an area where I can not only walk to work in five minutes, but also walk to most stores and businesses I need within 20 minutes.
At current gas prices up here ( 1.35 CDN/ Litre - times 3.875 to get an American gallon, btw) , and probably looking at 1.50 + within a very short period - it's something that you have to factor in to a car purchase today.
When I see some rich guy pulling into a gas station in his shiny Humvee now, I just have to chuckle. 
Semper Fi. | |
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| Gas Prices Posted: 9/4/2005 9:25:07 PM | Some of our gas stations up north are running out. Prices are going up every hour. The entire country is very vulnerable right now.
On a lighter note, will I still get my free pizza delivery with these gas prices? | |
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| Gas Prices Posted: 9/4/2005 9:39:52 PM | | Ya know, i LOVED my Honda Civic (the roller skate), but was totalled out by a head on with a drunk on a 2 lane, on a bridge...he was in a Jeep Honcho pickup...killed my old man, they couldn't BELIEVE I survived...but I NEVER want to have to look UP at a grill again! | |
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| Gas Prices Posted: 9/4/2005 11:28:27 PM | Sorry to hear that but I was raised "Dont drink and drive and to drink responsibly" Larry from IOWA   | |
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| Gas Prices Posted: 9/5/2005 3:04:21 PM | triumph raises an interesting point!
many reasons pple buy large cars/suv's is because of the protection offered in a high speed crash....such as you would have against someone NOT in control!
I'm sure most pple know NOT to drink and drive, but unfortunately there are still lots of irresponsible drunks getting behind the wheel.
until these pple are seriously penalized, very little will change! | |
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