| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/14/2005 9:41:59 AM | Get an electric car!
There is NOTHING bad about switching from combustibles to clean energy. | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/14/2005 10:09:55 AM | | yeah....just watch the experts say in ten years, there is a power crisis....there are too many electric cars!!! JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE'RE DOOMED :laugh: | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/14/2005 11:27:06 AM | | Electricity has to come from somewhere. A 7% annual increase in demand for energy means that in ten years we'll be using twice as much energy as we do today -- whether that's gas, oil, coal, hydro or nuclear. The electrical grid can barely handle today's demands. So, yeah, in ten years there probably *will* be a power crisis. | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/16/2005 11:12:47 PM | | We could know this is going to happen... and force changes in energy policy for the good of all (that does NOT include more nuclear power plants). | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/17/2005 7:24:43 AM | my home is heated with electricity and I sit here in just above 55 degree temps,...that's about 10 degrees because I can't afford to crank it higher,..I can't even immagine how much it would cost to run a vehicle electrically but I suspect we have waited just long enough to bring them out when even that's not much help cost wise,...
I think at this point perhaps combining electrical with solar may be more cost effective,...
Just a thought | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/17/2005 6:20:59 PM | | If gas gets higher everyone will have to put bike racks on their cars and take their mountain bikes to work. I have a rack for mine and a mountain bike. Something has to happen to reduce dependence on foreign oil. | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/17/2005 6:25:00 PM | put bike racks on their cars? Then they'd be in their cars, using up gas, driving around with their bikes strapped on top.
Wouldn't it be easier (and cheaper) just to lose the bike rack and peddle to work? | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/17/2005 9:45:07 PM | | Gas is back down to 113.9 here in Nova Scotia...that makes a 25 cent per litre difference in just about a week... | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/17/2005 10:14:47 PM | the last time I put gas in my car it was 112.9 and I'm trying to see if I can hold out until it gets back down to that,....I'm so close,...but I'm also just about going on fumes,...lol
one more penny to go,.... | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/18/2005 9:43:13 PM | I've got LOTS to say about GAS... read 'devil and god' thread first...
(First, if gas price goes up, that should be beacuse there is a tax that pays for environmental repair, not CEO profit... RIGHT NOW THAT IS NOT THE REASON.) I could be okay with price if that price being high, if that helped... this price just makes some j-asses rich. | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/18/2005 9:50:12 PM | What is funny, for me, is that mother nature could destroy the market whenever she sees the need. They make money off nature, but refuse to understand that they, makin money, are at HER mercy. All could be gone. If the market does not become completely in synch with nature (no toxic, no destruction of forests not impacted)
Yeah, just generally. Commodity extraction needs to stay the hell out of indigenous lands (history should teach the harm this has done so far.) I mean, the 'lights go out' should be something to think about as a warning. Divine COULD destroy electricity, if it wanted to. YOU need to give a reason why not to.
GOOD MORNIN 'AMERICA,' HOW ARE YA? DON'T you know me? I'm your native son.
I remember once when god/nature struck lighting that turned out the lights for the whole East coast of the US for several days (days, alone, messed up 'markets'... what if)
EITHER HELP ALL IN THE WORLD AND STOP THE SPACE WEAPON CRAP (SWITZERLAND HAS NO ENEMY) OR... TAKE YOUR CHANCES. | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/19/2005 2:26:44 AM | | Hitler has many many lives as a c-roach to think about the horror and evil he made (they censor 'cockroach'...never had one of them in my 'home,' and do not expect to, either....metaphor) | |
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| get an electric car!
Posted: 9/19/2005 2:35:27 AM | Loves...you think you have probs?
Our gas is £1 per litre
The Canadian dollar is something like $ 2.30 to the pound so we are paying
$ 2.30 per litre and according to the govt....Katrina is to blame for the TAX increase.
The Arabs sell it to us for 18p per litre.....rest is UK taxes
Your houses,cars,taxes,clothes,shoes,food etc is HALF as cheap as ours...so please think of us...........actually we got used to being clobbered! Water off a ducks back. | |
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| Gas Prices
Posted: 9/19/2005 2:43:07 AM | | Gas here is $2.70-$2.85 a gallon...and thats actually after the prices have went down this week | |
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| Gas Prices
Posted: 9/19/2005 2:47:41 AM | Well there you are......I am talking virtually the same price per LITRE.....I am quoting the cheapest price per LITRE and you are talking PER GALLON!
I know that America is cheaper than Canada.
Everything here is 3 times as much as in the USA and twice as much as Canada. | |
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| Gas Prices
Posted: 9/19/2005 2:50:29 AM | If you knew you could die today....
would you change?
What change would make you... what chain reaction would cause an effect?
Please READ the whole 'devil and god' thread.... IF YOU KNEW YOU COULD DIE TODAY> IF YOU SAW THE FACE OF GOD AND LOVE< WOULD YOU CHANGE? (Tracy) | |
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| Gas Prices
Posted: 9/19/2005 2:57:41 AM | | ..this is the story of how we begin to remember... (PAUL SIMON) look up those lyrics | |
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| Heat pumps bite
Posted: 9/19/2005 3:17:10 AM | I have two and they are not any cheaper.
Consumer Reports did a srvey a few years ago and the problem is that these units are so complicated compared to conventional heating units that few know how to install them correctly.
They also blow out air at a diferent temperature. For example, if you set the themostate at 69 degrees, that is whaat the air that blows out will be as opposed to a much hotter but shorter duration time with a conventional unit.
This was told to me by several A/C installers.
My first house had a head pump and I paid a lot extra for it thinking I would save money. Wrong.
My new house unfortunately only came with one of these things and just like my first house, my electric bill is espensive both in the summer and winter.
Also the outside unit constantly works in both the winter and summer which tends to make the unit last a shorter life.
As for electric cars, the magazine Car and Driver or maybe Road and Track recently compared the two Honda electric cars, the one from Volkswagen (I think the motor is a deisl and I am not sure its imported in this country) and the Toyota.
None got better than 44 mpg.
My 2004 Honda Civic that is strictly a gas engine gets about 37 MPG.
Also the cost of the batteries are very expensive and only last so long.
And the dealers are charging a premium in Dallas for the Toyotas. Don't know about the Hondas. Toyota's seem to alwasy charge a premium for their cars above sticker. | |
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| Heat pumps bite
Posted: 9/20/2005 7:32:39 AM | if we change to electric cars then the tree hugger's will be complaining about all the bad battery's being discarded in the land fills and there effects on the environment. Can you say can't win for losing.Or the gases that escape from the battery's will be polluting the skies. | |
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| Heat pumps bite
Posted: 9/20/2005 8:10:10 AM | ok then I think it's time we re-introduce the jetpack,...I always wanted one of them anyways,....because truth be told electricity is way too expensive now too,...
what do jet packs run on??????? | |
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| Heat pumps bite
Posted: 9/20/2005 9:28:14 AM | Looks like if rita stays on the projected course,...then we better all start stocking up on Gas again,.....because this should take care of some of those oil rigs Katrina missed,....
Unless the Gods decide to be kind and unwind Rita some,.....
But I'm not taking any chance and I'm not holding out for that last penny either,...lol | |
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| Heat pumps bite
Posted: 9/20/2005 4:11:25 PM | turns out I not only made it,...right to that last penny I infact gassed up today one penny less than what gas was Before Katrina,....
Well.....I'm impressed with me anyway | |
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| Heat pumps bite
Posted: 9/20/2005 6:48:23 PM | There are different kinds of heat pumps, which are suited for different kinds of climates. The problem with most heat pumps is that they are simply the cheapest combination heat/ac unit that a spec builder can install, and he doesn't give a fig how much they cost to run.
The backup electric heat runs into plenty money most places where electricity is still more expensive than natural gas per BTU. If you never need the backup heat, then you're okay, but that usually comes back to bite people. Heat pumps which use gas as a backup do exist, but are harder to find (read, not sold in Home Depot).
Also, the typical air-source heat pump tries to extract heat from cold air in the winter and dump heat into hot air in the summer, which is obviously working uphill both ways. Not such a huge problem in a very mild climate like San Francisco, but pretty bad in North Dakota. Anywhere that has extreme seasonal temperature variations should be using ground-source heat pumps, that extract heat from 50F underground water in the cold cold winter, and dump heat into 50F underground water in the hot hot summer.
But, again, those aren't sold at Home Depot and they require more than handyman skills to install. | |
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