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Posted: 8/12/2005 7:37:25 AM | damn.
you're right. i can't imagine you fitting my requirements. you know how i am about the courting phase. 
besides aren't you from pennsylvania or some crazy place like that?? i could never commit to a yankee | |
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| Can ugly women get studmuffins/??
Posted: 8/12/2005 8:05:38 AM | Good Morning Blastkis..
Wow thanks again
I didn't have my hairdone and no make-up or to little makeup in those pics.
And for the record-I am cursed or blessed? with a "p0utty" look. :)
Not really sad-I have a good heart. | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 8:09:17 AM | GreenBayby
I read that book years ago..
The type of guy I'm referring to "studmuffin" is basically the same as "a hunk".
so what is "HOT" to you.
The kind of guy I"ll have in my life is an honest , funny, lovin', one. | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 8:16:11 AM | I am confused about the original post, which as far as I understand it says that men are overly concerned with looks ... when in fact looks should not matter ... since ugly women should be able to get those (desirable) good looking guys.
If looks shouldn't matter then "studmuffins" shouldn't matter either. | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 8:25:45 AM | Shadowgirl 58,
You're not an ugly woman. You have full lips and nice eyes. Every woman has something attractive about them. It could be their voice, or the way their hair falls over their shoulders, it could be the way they toss their head back when they laugh, or the tiny mole beside their belly button.
You could be a sensualist that could drive some men crazy.
Are you a good lover? Are you a kind person? Are you funny? Do you love your life? Do you inspire the people around you? Do you have courage? Are you a fighter? Are you nurturing?
There are so many factors to what is attractive. I encourage you to find someone who celebrates the qualities that are inherently attractive in you.
Good luck.
Ben | |
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| Can ugly women get studmuffins/??
Posted: 8/12/2005 8:37:32 AM | | spoken the true words of a Poet and romantic..I didn't begin this thread to talk about me though. Thank you Dear. | |
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| Can ugly women get studmuffins/??
Posted: 8/12/2005 8:38:25 AM | Technically yes, ugly women can get gorgeous guys, but it's not likely, and it's not easy. If I were ugly, I would want a hot guy any way cos I would feel terribly insecure about my appearence compared to him and I would always wonder if he felt he could do better.
50 percent of what guys evaluate upon meeting you is your looks. If you're not a hotty, or at least passable, you've got to have the other 50 percent there ALL the way. The other 50 percent is, sadly, how sexually liberated you appear. If you have an open, friendly, fun personality, those are crucial points going for you. You also need to be very well groomed. No room here for slacking. The other say... 20 percent, are qualities unique to every guy's criteria. Which is why you have to get to know him first, so you can know that you need to eccentuate those qualities in yourself, which is why I would say that the typical hot guy/ugly girl couple start off as friends. | |
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| Can ugly women get studmuffins/??
Posted: 8/12/2005 8:41:10 AM | | However, that said, Shadowgirl, you're not ugly. You've got a really sexy mouth and big, clear eyes. Thick long hair as well. Nice cheekbones to boot. Not saying this to be sickly sweet. I'm saying it cos it's true, and you don't realise it. You need to sexify a bit more. You're NOT giving your appearance the credit and ATTENTION that it deserves. You could really be a MILF if you tried. | |
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| Can ugly women get studmuffins/??
Posted: 8/12/2005 8:51:54 AM | But what it all boils down to as far as looks and attraction go is not how studly the person is, but how well balanced his facial features are to yours. It completely scientific/mathematical.
The reason attractive people pair off is because of a mathematical equation called the Golden Ratio.
The closer a person's facial features line up to the Golden Ratio the more "beautiful" the person is. Therefore, if two people's faces are perfectly aligned to the golden ratio, there will be a hot attraction there because their faces are perfectly aligned to one another.
if a person's forhead to eyebrow, eyebrow to end of nose, end of nose to end of chin ratio is the same as yours, there will be a physical attraction.
i hope i havn't lost you. | |
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| Can ugly women get studmuffins/??
Posted: 8/12/2005 8:53:15 AM | it's not 120 percent. 50 percent is looks, 30 percent is sexuality, 20 percent is other.
piss off and stop trolling my posts. | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 9:00:45 AM | Jess:
You are very interesting to read-
i thought about dying the hair lighter or darker-changing the brows etc. My hair is getting quite lengthy but I won't cut it-and curling irons burn it and curlers get stuck in this fine soft hair. Been in this natural look for over two yrs now-r u suggesting a beauty salon for me>???
I really feel funny talking about myself so let's do talk guys.
some real Hot guys are egotistical or concieted-some are born with good looks and know it and some pump iron and show off those teasing muscular arms-i don't depend on looks to make me look better or to show him off-I want a personal one on one relationship and if he is pleasant to look at -that can be a plus. I don't expect anyone to change for me and I hardly doubt i will change-mayb improve but not change.
To the man that asked:
I feel confident in knowing that I never stopped to consider whether I am a good lover or not, it feels good in that plateau of passionate fleeting euphoria..
I never considered my hind end an asset but he liked it.
I am a sensitive lover-do I have to elaborate.? Exploring the depths of pleasure is a long conversation so I will be brief. I do know if I remain single for the rest of my life-I will get set in my ways and gain more weight slowly,(preferably not),sounds terribly lonely so on that note I would rather say hope this thread goes on and on-I will post occasionally now.
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| Can ugly women get studmuffins/??
Posted: 8/12/2005 9:02:38 AM | There is a myth which I believe has some truth to it.
The myth is to always marry someone who is not as good looking as you are. Marrige is also a power realtionship. If you are better looking, you have the "upper hand" in the relationship; you do less of the house chores. This apply to both man and woman. So yes, absolutely. The truely smart guy will never want a wife who is too beautiful.  | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 9:06:22 AM | | No, never change shadow. Although a think a really light wave would look great in your hair. Plump it up a bit and compliment your face. I'd go for a richer hair color, NOT a lighter hair color. Dark and rich is the way to go, baby. | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 9:11:27 AM | thank you Jess for the suggestion- the previous post was a bit out of my ways..
looks willnot impress me -attitude and beliefs maybe. | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 9:15:14 AM | tru I heard it said "that pretty woman are trouble" and to "marry an ugly one she'll stay longer"
Okay where's all the old fat, bald, short and fuzzy guys??
Psst[whispers] hair on the chest is good to run the fingers through unless you are native then a smooth taunt chest is good too. | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 9:30:55 AM | ^^^^^^^
Old? Did you young lady call for old?? LOL
Got plenty of hair, not short and I'm not really fat. Old, though. In years, anyway.
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| Can ugly women get studmuffins/??
Posted: 8/12/2005 9:45:33 AM | What an interesting question ...
To put it into perspective, that would be like a guy asking, "Can ugly guys get babes?"
Why does it matter?
I'm not the best looking guy around & I've never had any great problems finding nice ladies to be with. It used to bother me that I wasn't taller/slimmer/had more hair, but my modest looks do make a great 'bimbo-filter' and save me a lot of trouble. I wouldn't be interested in anybody who is that hung up over looks, anyway.
My observations have been that the majority of *beautiful* women are high maintenance & self-centred (they can get away with it). Not all, of course - I have a beautiful daughter who has a sweet personality & very, very smart. Her boyfriend is plain, but one of the nicest young men I've ever met. They make an excellent couple ...
What matters is does he/she/it have: a sense of humour, good self-esteem, good attitude towards life, compatible interests etc etc etc
That's why I always go 'friends-first' before I jump into romance. Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly is to the bone ...
For what it's worth | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 9:48:16 AM | @ Indi ... Hmmm, too bad I’m too young (your profile says 33 and older)
@SI ... But we’re a kinder, gentler version of Yankees these days ... oh, wait, no we’re not  | |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 12:51:26 PM | @ kurac je tu -----
Thats what I settle for.
Nobody has to settle for any thing less than they want! You just have to keep looking for the "one" for you!!! | |
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| Can ugly women get studmuffins/??
Posted: 8/12/2005 10:45:28 PM | 1. Women process (and act on) information completely differently than men. Never forget this. Stop thinking of women as screwed-up men and start realizing that their minds were built from an entirely different blueprint.
Just as a hawk can discern details at distances that a man needs a ten-power scope to see, a woman is many times more capable than a man at reading the emotions of other women. (Women may be equally capable at reading men's emotions, but have never seen a need to.) Walk into a large party with a woman. You, the man, will see a bunch of people in a room, talking in groups of two to five. You'll see where the food and bar is, and notice any exceptionally attractive women in the room. That's it. Your companion, however, will be able to tell you which woman is angry, which one is lonely, which is happy, which is upset, which ones feel self-conscious, which ones are jealous, and (probably) which ones are having affairs and with which men. Your female companion will be able to accurately tell you these things within ten seconds of entering the room.
This ability comes at a price: Women are many times more sensitive than men to emotional pain. Imagine a man whose skin was so sensitive that ordinary contact was painful. Whenever someone shook his hand in greeting or clapped him on the shoulder in congratulations, it would feel to him as if boiling water were being thrown on his flesh. Now turn that disparity in physical sensitivity into emotional sensitivity and you'll get a good picture of a fundamental difference between men and women.
Men seldom if ever need to know what a group of other women is thinking, so they usually experience a woman's heightened sensitivity from the negative perspective. They hurt their wives' feelings without realizing it (just like the handshake in the above hypothetical) and then are baffled when their women are upset with them, often for days or weeks at a time, for seemingly no reason. (Keep reading.)
2. Men and women have very different definitions of integrity. Men have integrity to their word, but because of the heightened sensitivity as explained above, women have integrity to their feelings.
Women base their actions on how they feel at the time. This means that if something no longer "feels" right, they won't do it, period. It infuriates most men when a woman "flakes" on them. ("Flaking" is the term that men who study this sort of thing use to describe when a woman who has eagerly made plans with them doesn't show up, or calls at the last minute to cancel because her girlfriend needs consoling etc. Roughly speaking, a woman's tendency to flake is proportional to her options and inversely proportional to her age, although I did meet one 38-year-old single mother of two with this habit.) Understand that the need to be true to one's feelings is an extremely powerful force with women. Look at the dominant theme in all romance novels: The woman is "swept away" by emotions too powerful to be denied, and has an affair when everyone knows she shouldn't. Another example is the adage "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." Even the former First Lady (according to the Secret Service) regularly threw things (lamps, etc.) at her husband when angry. Can you imagine a man doing this, instead of saying "Next"? The idea is ludicrous.
If you're a man, you probably do what you've agreed to do (help someone move, etc.) because you said you would. However, you wouldn't go through with your plans to help your acquaintance move if it had suddenly become a felony with a mandatory 10-year prison sentence to do so, would you? Of course not. Ten years in prison trumps a promise to move furniture. Well, that is the kind of aversion that women have to doing things that no longer "feel" right. Later I'll explain how to make this "integrity to feelings" work to your benefit.
3. Most women are much more rational than most men at the initial meeting. For all of men's complaints about "screwed-up 'chick logic'," it is men who unconsciously fall into a very irrational pattern of behavior when they first meet a new woman that interests them.
Upon meeting an attractive and perhaps interesting woman for the first time, most men behave as if they are thinking about...wait for it...marriage! Hollywood has bombarded us with "love at first sight" stories, but what kind of message does it really send to a woman you've just met that you've already decided she's the one? It screams pathetic loser who couldn't get laid in a women's prison with a fistful of pardons. "One-itis" is the absolute death knell to any person's chance with someone new. Women know this. Men, as a rule, don't.
There's an old saying that "To meet her handsome prince, a girl has to kiss a lot of frogs." Given that few American women age well or are financially self-sufficient, this adage is much more appropriate for men aspiring to marriage than it is for women.
4. What women say they want and what they actually do want are two different things. Men need to be keenly aware of this and act accordingly. The crap that women claim they want in the personals ads is exactly the kind of thing that would have the same women running for the nearest exit out of boredom if the men actually provided it.
Women want to feel attraction for someone, and attraction doesn't come from finding a man who is sensitive, or caring, or likes long walks on the beach, cats, and candlelight dinners, has a college education or a good job. Attraction isn't a choice. Attraction comes from that little shiver of anticipation of not knowing what's coming next, of not being able to pigeonhole the man she's with into any one category, of being just a little bit off-balance and not in total control.
5. Women read things into men's actions that aren't there. Accept that, and make it work for you, if possible. This phenomenon probably comes from women's heightened emotional sensitivity. It may also come from the need many women have for drama (and for some women, chaos) in their lives. | |
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| Can ugly women get studmuffins/??
Posted: 8/13/2005 2:30:22 AM | Women want to feel attraction for someone, and attraction doesn't come from finding a man who is sensitive, or caring, or likes long walks on the beach, cats, and candlelight dinners, has a college education or a good job.
Am I ever hosed. (Ordinarily, this would be a self-serving remark, but since the above attributes are presumed useless in attracting women, it isn't.)
Attraction isn't a choice. Attraction comes from that little shiver of anticipation of not knowing what's coming next, of not being able to pigeonhole the man she's with into any one category, of being just a little bit off-balance and not in total control.
OK, question: This "off-balance and not in total control" thing. Would a better example of a man accomplishing this be a) displaying extremely clever and unanticipated trains of thought during a conversation, or b) starting a fistfight with a stranger? Having both Rachmaninoff and Revolting C0cks in his music collection, or hitting on his girlfriend's younger sister? Signing up for Portuguese classes at the local college, or joining a cult? In order for me to gauge whether am I willing and able to employ this strategy, I need something more specific. | |
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