| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/27/2008 3:21:48 PM | On a simular note I have sadly run into several bipolars since dating on pof. The last 7 dates were all bipolar. What is up with that?
Its our future, some say its genetics somes say it life experiences they have also been saying it nutritional. Farmers have to feed their animals more healthy than some people eat (most) to avoid illnesses (including mental) in their livestock - fact. People aren't so lucky and its not that we arent eating right its the food we are eating isnt as nutritious as it used to be and Mental illness are going to be more common. What were learning now and how we treat each other is what we have to look forward to. running like hell might just get you injured. Maybe brain damaged. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/27/2008 5:36:23 PM |
Yes I am bipolar, I take my meds, see my Drs, I don't drink or do drugs and I monitor my illness very closely. I am in control of my illness it does not control me.
your admission of your issue makes you admirable, actually. it should encourage others to seek the sort of help that you have and take responsibility for their own lives.
we see more of an unmanagable and undesirable situation when the person refuses to acknowledge that they have a problem.
also, others with the problem can take notice of the fact that you don't drink or do drugs. because those activities exacerbate the disorder and cause even more distress to others.
so don't feel discouraged by anyone's words here. they address those in denial, which clearly does not include someone like yourself. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/27/2008 7:30:29 PM | I know someone with a very serious bipolar condition, and has it controlled quite nicely. Great guy to be around.
I know another someone with a less severe bipolar disorder that, in between freak out sessions, insists that she doesn't need her meds. She's an estrogen molotov****ail. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/27/2008 7:51:47 PM | Bipolar effects everyone differently....yet it amazes me that many people are so uninformed about what it is. So many assume that if someone has bipolar, they are instantly "crazy".....and all the negative stories are shared about what a "crazy" person has done...due to the bipolar.
Of course, there do exist "normal" people who have done crazy things too...
Anyone with bipolar should:
1. Take their meds daily
2. Stay away from alcohol and drugs
3. Get physical/emotional/mental/spiritual releases | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/27/2008 8:00:41 PM |
So many assume that if someone has bipolar, they are instantly "crazy".....and all the negative stories are shared about what a "crazy" person has done...due to the bipolar.
I was married to someone for 12 years who was bi-polar. Her manic spells destroyed our relationship. When she didn't take her medication, she felt she didn't NEED her medication, and she self-medicated with alcohol and pot. It doesn't take much for their medicine to be a bit off-balanced (which knowing what will work and in what dosages is a guessing game anyway). She lost her husband, she lost her son, she lost her mother, and she lost anything else that was dear to her life. ALL due to her bi-polar illness.
And as far as "instantly crazy", she could go from being just fine to a full blown manic episode in less than an hour, while on her medication, and not think there was a thing wrong with her, while she stayed awake for the following week, due to her illness. Being with someone who's bi-polar, medicated or not, can be a total nightmare, and that's something I never want to have to live through again. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/27/2008 9:06:11 PM | | We all go about our lives, our day to day routines without a clue that your boss, best friend, relative or whomever has this disease. I've wrestled with it myself since 1990. I too, took a proactive stance and sought out a good Doctor, we experimented with combinations of meds until we found the right ones, and I saw her twice weekly for several years. Now I take my meds without fail, I went on and became successful, had wonderful relationships, and I don't remember the last time I had a 'down' day. I refuse to be a slave to the disease, and I refuse to feel ashamed of it. It's myopic and small minds that think we're freaks and crazy. I'll talk to anyone about it and I work to debunk the mythology of 'crazy' bipolar' people being dangerous and unable to carry on in daily society. Ever vigilant, ever forward.... | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/28/2008 7:03:15 AM | | Although bipolar disorder is a true illness and those afflicted should not be chastized, those with it should not use their illness as an excuse to hurt or demoralize others. There are many facets to bipolar disorder, and although those with it deserve respect, compassion, and support, so does everyone else! Respect is a two way street... | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/28/2008 9:57:02 AM | | Reading some of the replies, I am moved to reply to this. Bipolar disorder varies greatly in its severity and is very easily treated, unlike schizophrenia. Many famous people (Churchill, Billy Connolly, Stephen Fry to name a few) suffered with it and led very productive lives. It is incomprehensible how people can dismiss others so readily without knowing them. My guess would be that the alcohol is the bigger problem as it is probably stopping the meds from working and should therefore be tackled first. Ultimately it is worth remembering that 1 in 4 adults in the UK are being treated for mental health problems and a great many more have serious issues with alcohol abuse. That is not to say that drunken, violent behaviour should be tolerated but rather that the underlying issues causing it are far more common than you think but probably dont get that level of attention because the person doesn't also suffer from bipolar! At the end of the day, it is an illness much like any other and has to be treated as such. Good luck! | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/28/2008 11:02:52 AM | | If only this site consisted of flawless people. Everybody's got something and nobody's perfect. I think when you go down the road of judging people based on some classification they fall into you wind up excluding everyone including yourself. You really can't tell your heart what to do or who to fall in love with but you can educate yourself on whatever diagnosis or cluster of characteristics you find with whomever you meet and don't discount the battle stories others share as those can help prepare you for what you may face. You know it's not the cross that you bear it's how you bear it. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/28/2008 11:17:01 AM | | 17456 any and all abusive behavior is wrong whether your mentally ill or not. I dated someone who had bi polar and used it as an excuse to be abusive and that he didn't know what he was doing at the time. Sorry but I don't buy that. He blamed his wife for their break up but until i saw him in action I believed him. Wow do I feel sorry for his ex. She went through hell and back. No one is perfect we screw up but when you cross over the abuse line then you need to be accountable for your actions and either get help recognise you have a serious problem and if you can't handle your disorder then don't date. Simple as that. Why put others through hell because you have a disorder that causes you to say and do things that can damage someone for life? | |
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Joined: 2/13/2008
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/28/2008 7:03:24 PM | | Well I met someone on here who is major alcoholic,the first I have ever encountered! Omg! This man at 44,drinks night and day,didnt think it was a problem at first,because it was just beer,and hey this is Fla,men drink beer,but when I saw him poppin a top at 7 am,and drinkin beer am to pm,Yikes! He had major mood swings,in am he could be calm,nice,sometimes even fun,then by evening,he would snap! I went thru mental and physical abuse,the man clearly needs help and refuses! So now I have red flags I look for,very bad disease and Iam sure he had deep down emotional probs too.. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/28/2008 7:12:15 PM | No offense to anyone, and yes I do realize the OP is long gone, but if I met someone like he asked, I'd run as if Lucifer himself were chasing me with his hounds fast on my heels.
My mum is bipolar, and I've seen many an alcoholic. Ain't no way in hell I need any more drama in my life. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/28/2008 7:24:19 PM | | I moved a man in with me that was bi-polar and not taking meds and he was a drunk. i mean he would drink tequila from the moment he woke up and still be drinking till bedtime. he always thought he was right and better than everyone else. he was also a little crazy and thought he could read minds and have psychic connections with people . oh ya... no sex in this relationship. he did not work and i am low income person trying to support 2 people. not even a single thank you for in his eyes he was too good to work and the world owed him a free ride. he told me he was bi-polar and he never took medication. he had a perscription once and he simply stopped taking his meds and seeing a dr once the meds ran out. he was a psycho. i could not get him out from under my roof fast enough | |
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Joined: 9/25/2007
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/29/2008 5:36:26 AM | Whatever the quacks say the syndrome is,
(syndrome: dis-ease that is supposed to be, is supposed to have some (maybe completely unknown) causes, and some characteristics - often the 'mental' stuff,
Organic disease: Known cause, effect mostly,
ie. a broken leg is a bit obvious, but Fred is said by some to be a bit strange near chainsaws afterwards is not so certain.... Lumberjack seasonal chainsaw nervousness syndrome that'll be $1000)
I have a quacks label - what I say here is (I claim.... :-) ) - shown by their refusal to state to me opinion or diagnosis, and no way in writing "We don't do that". I think I learnt something from that lot, but it's definitely terminal for a CV....
Make your own mind up - believe nothing( =be scientific, as R.Feynman said), but take into account everything. As a bloke, appearance etc. triggers all sorts of feelings and logic's not there, but good luck.
Alcoholism - help - I me t a drunk lady once, very intelligent, a friend now and ok. | |
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Joined: 1/31/2008
Msg: 279 | |
| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/29/2008 4:15:27 PM | | My ex was bipolar and ended his life when we divorced. Medication helps, but they think they are well and begin to think they no longer need the meds. In the long run, you will end up babysitting a bipolar mate for the rest of your life. It is a horrible disease because the person who has it is so very charming and beautiful in the beginning. RUN as FAST as you can! | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/29/2008 6:22:25 PM |
My ex was bipolar and ended his life when we divorced.
how horribly tragic. you must have gone through absolute hell.
it seems, though, that if a person really makes an effort to reclaim their life, as the woman commenting earlier has, and avoids alcohol, they deserve some kind of support. i would hope that someone like that would find a partner who cherished them.
now, i have no sympathy for those who deny their issues, refuse to seek treatment and persist with alcohol abuse. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 2/29/2008 8:13:43 PM | [ In the long run, you will end up babysitting a bipolar mate for the rest of your life.]
Thank you Argen I guess I should just go drown my self now.. The illnes has many dimensions and many degrees of severity. Some people with BP can lead very normal lives while others spend their whole lives hanging on to their sanity by a very thin thread. For many denial is a symptom of the illness. Maybe that's because they are told they are lazy, stupid, imagining things, overreacting, overly emotional and there is nothing really wrong with them. "Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps" So why would they believe that they are supposed to take medication.. I mean the illness isnt real, its all in their heads.... According to some anyway... And what did you do to make their lives easier??? Were you supportive, calm and drama-free in your dealing with them... Did you abstain from drugs and alcohol while you were with them ???? Did you maintain a regular schedule of eating and sleeping ???? Did you try to support them when they were too sick (emotionally) to get out of bed or go to work ??? Did you help them make Dr. and therapy appointments when they were to sick to keep track of them ???? Did you help relieve the stress or just add to it... All any of us wants is to be respected, loved and understood..... | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/5/2008 9:35:31 PM | But you take your meds I am sure. She doesnt and hers is not mild.
Meds are always being adjusted by the Doctor and patient. If the patient cant stand a particular medication the doctor will change them. After a lifetime of these adjusted medication do you think the patient cant tell theres something wrong with a medication or dosage. To be constantly accused of going off their Meds I would say 9 out of ten times the patient can guess to go off some of the meds but they aren't monitored you cant tell if its due to thier meds or to thier illness ? It can't really be predicted in the first place. So in fact totally screwing up with the meds and forgeting them because theyre to stressed shouldnt be judged
I do believe that they cant find any meds can help when things are serious. Alcohal and alcohalics are two different things as well if you have a drinking disease and are bi-polar I would be very concerned. If a person drinks such a small amount and not very often why not on a special occasion here and there. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/6/2008 3:33:59 AM | Oh is that ever true argen . They can be so very charming at the start , but the little red flags start to pop up and you find that you get blamed for so many little things that you are not aware of . The mood swings come out of nowhere and if alcohol is mixed , you are sitting on a time bomb that only gets worse .
Dealing with any illness and working to cure / control it is the norm , but bipolar is commonly left as untreated and god forbid you take the lead in suggesting it . At that point get out before you take on the blame and buried in rage and self pity that will come at you .. | |
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