| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/6/2008 7:09:54 AM | | I think those two would be a toxic combination. I think people with a mental illness deserve our compassion and care where we can offer it, but sometimes we can't help a person whose illness is beyond our range of experience and understanding. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/6/2008 1:31:36 PM | [/I WOULD SAY BE PATIENT , MENTAL ILLNESS IS A HORRIBLE THING U NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PERSON AND DONT JUDGE THEM BY THERE ILLNESS AS THATS WHAT IT IS ]
the is also the factor that some biopolar people have their good years and bad years it might just be bad or more confusing when they are young or visa versa. three major groups so they all have their own catagories some get times when they are sick for short periods some long and some that have both. Some dont have symtoms for years and some have such bad symptoms you wouldnt belief. Some might have low symptoms for constant periods with just mood swings. Alcohal goes strait to the mood center depression which is why they feel a few drinks get them over hyper states but it also staying your system so it increases desparation if depression sets in.(if your partner thinks this is your personality a feels you are needy its just wrong) time will tell Like one woman said she never found out her condition til she was 45. Basically if you had the good times once why cant you wait if its worth it to have the good times again. If you never loved your partner its just wrong to condemn her | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/6/2008 4:59:10 PM | | I wholeheartedly agree that compassion and offering help and support are necessary , but it still boils down to only being able to help those who accept it . And if they don't , you can't . Bi polar and alcoholism are terrible diseases and can't be cured , but in another sense an unfortunate person to have them can control them through abstenance and counselling .. With awareness and proper medication to help lead a normal life we know life can throw a worse fate our way. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/6/2008 5:03:27 PM | OK, I spent 6 years with a man who was bi-polar and an alcoholic. He refused to take meds, and didn't need AA.........after several trips off the deepend and stays in Phsy Ward. I finally admitted, he was not going to change and I could not take it anymore.
My advice.........RUN LIKE HELL | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/7/2008 8:43:33 AM | bipolar disorder - like any mental illness - can easily be controlled with the right medications nowadays - many celebrities and public figures have bipolar disorder...in fact it can be impossible to tell if a person has bipolar unless they tell you themselves. Mental illness scares people away but it shouldn't. it's no different than if someone had cancer for instance, so long as its kept under control.
The only thing that worries me is the alcoholism. Those 2 together are very disturbing but then again i wouldn't date someone with a drinking problem, regardless of a mental illness. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/7/2008 2:09:51 PM | | I'm with jtm216 on this one....my ex was bipolar and an alcoholic.....leading to a jeckyl and hyde effect that I couldn't get a grip on...and I'm one of them most understanding ( and yet no BS) kinda chicks you could meet.......either way, he left a trail of turmoil behind him....and brought plenty of it into my life while he was in it.....all the while so caught up in his own moods and unable to see what i seen from my point of view....the constant breaking of my heart in the lies that he told (to himself as well), the money he spent without realizing it when he was buzzed just to achieve a temporary feeling of pleasure (which is what bipolar people do...if un medicated...constantly "chasing" that pleasure feeling, because the other end of the spectrum for them is almost too much to handle), only to be unsociable, irritable, and depressed when he wasn't buzzed due to the chemical comedown ....and couldn't take one honest look at himself long enough to feel more sorry for the ones he hurt (myself and his son) than he fealt for himself......SOOO, if they can take it upon themselves to give it everything they've got to quit drinking....and actually follow through (and this WILL BE hard road)....THEN you can possibly be with them....until the alcohol is outta the picture, any love that they offer is going to be tainted with all sorts of bad experience and mood craziness...that will more often than not result in your heart being broken repeatedly.......If you like being drug through the mud go for it.... | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/7/2008 2:27:54 PM | This is both a frightening and dangerous combination! Although no one asks to be mentally ill, dealing with the mentally ill is challenging. Most people who are bipolar DO NOT have good control of their illness....yes, many celebrities have been diagnosed, and DO have control, but the lives of celebrities and the financial resources they have for dealing with their illness are worlds different than us "regular people."
Personally, seeing the havoc that mental illness wreaked in my own family (mother-in-law was a paranoid schizophrenic who made life hell for her four sons and my devoted, long-suffering father-inl-law), I would not become romantically involved.....unless you want the majority of your life to be spent in "high drama mode."
There is a very good reason that many mentally ill people live in group homes (I work in one part time), and not with their families. We can "sit in judgement" of the families who have chosen this option for their loved one, but it isn't fair, because no one except those families know what they have gone through. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/7/2008 4:08:14 PM | agreed ,,,  as fast and as far as you can,,, find a new identity,,, GET OUT,,, these people will make you feel CRAZZZZZZZZZZZZZY | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/8/2008 12:22:21 AM | [. I think people with a mental illness deserve our compassion and care where we can offer it,]
IM under the impression after thousands of years of Melencholia ie bi-piolar and other other mental illness there a many not as confused as you think, its a bad excuse.
Excuse me who died and left you the infamous WE, thats the most disgusting and prejuditial concept of the WORD we in exsistance you have a problem, I guess you belong to the all mighty WE so who am I, to talk. Once you join WE all others become the losers thats why THEY is always considered the most dangerous group who are innocent bystanders to pardon me when I say Your convictions. WE or only you should speak for yourself and not imply you have a cartel on putting down mentally ill or others, I mean your strictly in the personal tense which its really intended for.
I'd like to point out that living below the poverty line which most mentally ill people are is more of a challenge that most, especially you could contemplate without going round the bend yourself. So what in Heck have you ever OFFERED some understanding at best right if not I think WE really SUCK really . Im not saying you have to love date marry have sex with whatever but to sit and not understand reality sucks big time, and also the definition of mental disorder.. WE indeed , yeah. The better to intimidate you with. And there Are Lots of other WEs that totally disagree with you and really do offer lots. WE against one always makes my DAY. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/8/2008 1:17:42 AM | | Its not the big fear most bi-polar people hurt themselfs .Suicide or cutting themselfs.for them it is just low esteem.They are not people to be scared of--it boils down to they go up --as in manic and come down like deppresion but cant find the middle ground like most people can.Its a definitive disease and is recognized in europe as bad as cancer.Yet it has stigma which the lucky ones---who are say normal call it weakness or worse mental illness.Do you sometimes think about a family member and try to figure what went wrong maybe that was bi-polar.its only in the last twenty years we even gave it a term.Hence I lost my young brother in 1995 ---as they sayhe was bi-polar. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/8/2008 2:09:44 AM | | Its funny but when you dont want tomorrow you self medicate thats where alcohol comes in.So as crack cocaine and anything else.there not doing it for fun.Hey there is no cure any doctor will tell you that.Does not make that person else worth than you and me.I say mental pain got to be worse than physical---cause with physical you still have a chance to heal--yes | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/8/2008 2:23:54 AM | Blimey - Bi-Polar!!!
omg and on dating sites, it takes enough normal mental health to cope with this - so with Bi-Polar they are likely to be throwing the PC out the window on regular evening sessions.
Laughing out loud, Bi-polar and alcohol mmmmmmm, most of their medication is strictly, 'no alcohol allowed'. So brings to mind are they really sick or just using that as an excuse? Which would explain the alcohol - most drunks are convincing liars.
Anyways Loz say run run run RUN and dont look back, just in case they are following you. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/8/2008 12:07:18 PM | Anyways Loz say run run run RUN and dont look back, just in case they are following you.
Don't kid yourself most people with mental illness fear your type way more and usually see you coming and have the common sence to stay away from you. Realisticly they have their own lifes and concerns YOU would be the imposition in thier lifestyles. This is because without the problems they have you running for the hills types take alot you couldn't cope with for granted.
no alcohol allowed'
Have you ever read your medication lables do you lose your job when you dont show up because you cant drive for 15 days?
makes you sleepy or intensifys effects do you not toast your best friends wedding. When on Birth control do you let the guy know youre taking penicillin for your broncittis your pills are ineffective and can get pregnant. Its not the greatest to have a mental illness or a alcohalic addiction. But when your medication only states the fact of possible alteration in effects of drinking it doesnt mean youre an alcohalic. Reasonable and logical approach to meds is scientific not prison sentance. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/8/2008 12:24:49 PM | Its funny but when you dont want tomorrow you self medicate thats where alcohol comes in.So as crack cocaine and anything else.there not doing it for fun.Hey there is no cure any doctor will tell you that.Does not make that person else worth than you and me.I say mental pain got to be worse than physical---cause with physical you still have a chance to heal--yes
The fact that your brain produces its own LSD as similar to Adrenilin. Either of these trigger some nuerotic pychotic feelings in the brain maybe even similar to Cocaine and a severly, depressed might confuse Cocaine as a way to get by but the cocaine is addictive. When They are in manic it could be way more extream then they bargain for. Most med they prescribe dont fit in the addictive catagory for this reason they can be altered. If they have to have addicitve medications they dont try to maintain more sober effect to cope with normal life. Unfortunately these are more sedative and lots of people refuse this. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/8/2008 1:19:37 PM | Bipolar- not to be judged as unworthy or less than (and that applies to any mental illness)
Alcoholic- ALSO a mental illness or allergy within itself....ALSO not to be treated any less than
The combination of the two: a rollercoaster of emotions that are not consistant or understandable by a stable (or halfway stable in my case :P) mind
we are ALL human
BUT you CANNOT HELP SOMEONE WHO WILL NOT HELP THEMSELF or who create all sorts of excuses for their behavior....selfish behavior is unnacceptable, dangerous, and distructive for those in the path of it....and until one is humbled by the experience of having to admit their shortcomings, there's notta thang u can do for them......
ALL growth and change lies within ones self.....reguardless of the addiction, personality type, or disorder.....being SELF AWARE is the beginning....and the rest is an uphill battle..... | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/9/2008 1:00:20 AM | Suicide or cutting themselfs
These do not go simply hand in hand with bi-polar, gimme a break suicide is its own illness or disorder and so is cutting its own disorder. Just like Bi- Polar is three separate disorders and alcohalism is another
get this All bipolar people have the same rannges in IQ as other people on this planet quick run run run see dick run see Jane run run run run see spot lifting his third leg on the back off your leg. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/9/2008 10:05:33 AM | How do you realknow is someone is bipolar, unless you know the sighns. I would think on a first date thsome one is going to say, " Nice to meet you, and by the way I,m bi[polar too" Hello, Bi-polar is the tne word. Everyone wants or thinks they are, it sems. My daughter is 21 and is bi'polar and the ones who it really hurts the most is ones you have to live with it, and by that I mean the family. She has found a med, that has finally worked, but not without cost. She had a baby in July 2007, and 2weeks later suffered from postartem depression, and was seeing, and hearing people that werent there. The police came several times, but because she was over 18 nothing could be done, The babys father made it worse, which she then took it out on me. I,m a widow and do you think I could call my 2 older sons for help. No, they are the type that think or say what do you want us to do, or she,s not our problem. All I wanted was mabey a little support. My husband used to say " Tommy and Michael make fun of many, but dont have any" and boy was he right. I have add, but always did, but way back then their wasnt such a term. But I survived, barely, but still trying, and trying to live each day has it goes, and it,s not an easy thing to do. but I have a granddaughter who needs me, afterall she didnt ask to be here. Fineally her father is in jail for beating up my daughter, which he always did, but no one would listen to me, and my daughter, who has no self esteem left wouldnt do anything until the last time when he punched her square in the face, and I finally took her to the police myself, and they sent her to the hospital, and they were there waiting for us, talled her into charging him. Now,s he,s finally there, but he will get out, but by then I hope with my daugher,s new counsler and new friends it will give her whatever she needs to move on with her life, and then I can finally have mine back. Lisa | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/11/2008 2:32:39 AM | [but by then I hope with my daugher,s new counsler and new friends it will give her whatever she needs to move on with her life, and then I can finally have mine back. Lisa"]
I believe the symtom of Post Partum are pretty close to bi-polar. Nervous breakdown or Mental exhaustion have pretty close syptoms as well(ie: from physical or mental attacks). If shes had physical abuse for a long time it contributes to getting one type of Bipolar condition-ungenitic as well. I think they're might be lots of hope for your daughter and grandaughter this abuse from the father is worse than any kind of other addictions for someone bipolar. Its not normal to handle physical abuse without untold price. Bi-polar can be less over the years. Mind you if shes alcohalic I wouldn't be able to say.  | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/11/2008 9:35:23 AM | | First off their is no being nice to an alcholic and having them get the message so be blunt I An't interested stage 2 get the restraining order, and if all else fails always take advantage of your 2nd amendment rights, if the need to defend yourself arises so be it but only as a last resort, and cheek into local laws as far as propety owners rights with regard to shooting truspassers if they come on your land get them off by any means nessesary!!!!! | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/11/2008 11:44:43 AM | you absolutely can't reason with a drunk.
don't even try.
the bipolar part i could handle, provided the person admits the problem and works daily to control it. otherwise, it's useless.
if someone refuses to help themself, i certainly can't do it for them. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 3/11/2008 11:48:51 AM | if the person is open and honest in the first place and tells you
I am bipolar or I am a Alcoholic then its up to you to make the choice to see them or not
if you discover they are hiding these things and you feel you have been wronged
walk!!!! | |
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