| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/1/2005 10:04:01 AM | | my ex was bipolar.....and an alcolholic....which he did not tell me when we met.....the next three years were pure HELL......RUN....and dont look back sweety.....the worst thing that can happen....you fall in love with her.....and keep forgiving her...OMG....a person that truly has this.....is very very sick....not sure if they can be fixed...and most of the time......they dont think they have a problem...you have the problem....possessive.......she will not want to get help and stick with it.....but she Will not want you with anyone else either....RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!! | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/1/2005 1:02:52 PM | | Nergal and Shedevil. There is no need to "Run" from a person who is Bipolar or anybody else who is mentally ill. Mabey who should read my last few posts and read the statistics on the mentally ill and dangerous crimes to become more educated. By saying "Run" you are implying that they are dangerous to others. Mental illness is as comman as the comman cold and thats a fact so if you guys whant to "Run" you might as well run from 90 or more percent of the worlds population, this makes you more "insane" than a person who is Bipolar! In my country when a person is physically ill they get all the care and intention in the world, but if they are mentally ill they get ridiculed and slandered by ignorant people like you who only add to the problem. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/1/2005 2:09:03 PM | My Ex-wife was borderline with a touch of BiPolar. Life was like living with a "24/7 PMS lady."
Stay clear if you ever hope to have a normal life.
Don't RUN out of the room -- Instead, back up slowly, never taking your eyes off her.
Things finally got better for me when the judge gave her 10 days in jail (for perjury). The burden finally lifted for me when my son reached his 18th birthday.
Thudpucker STILL trembles when he thinks about it all! | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/1/2005 2:13:11 PM | Sorry outdoorguy but I lived with a borderline alcoholic for almost ten years .. I dont want one anywhere near me. I really would run, change my phone numbers and location. Its a personal choice. People in that particular state need to spend time on their own and work out their problems instead of hiding inside a bottle .. same goes for thopse who hide inside a Bible expecting God to cover their weaknesses ..
I'm with Thudpucker on this .. its a personal choice .. If i am with someone I have a right to expect certain things and for them to respect my likes and dislikes. I dont go out with people for charity and I am very choosy about who I see .. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/1/2005 7:27:00 PM | there is no such thing as a touch of bi polar...either you are or you arent. Bi polar depression is the most highy misdiagnosed mental illness there is. The behaviors are similar to someone who is chemichally dependant and withdrawling, therefore alot of addicts get misdiagnosed. It is not possible to diagnose someone difinitively unless the person has been free from all mind and mood altering chemicals for a duration. Bi polar is a checmical imbalance in the brain. There are different types also...Chemical dependance causes an imbalance in the brain also...yet when u stop feeding the brain these chemicals the mood swings come and the individual becomes erratic at times...depressed and sad at times.. and elated at other times... these mood swings caused by an imbalance of chemicals and when withdrawling the brain is looking for the chemical and cant find it, therefore the brain is gettin pissed and cant function properly until a full withdrawl is made. It can take months before a diagnosis is possible.
Same thing for borderline personality disorder. Very tough to diagnose.
Doctors make people think they have something they dont have more times than not. Doctors in psych wards give everyone mood stabilizers and make them think they have some mental disorder, its sad actually, its all about the money and the kickbacks the hospitals and doctors get... people are being conned into thinking they need these meds and all they really need is God and 12 steps and people to talk to... not all mind you...bi polar is real and so is borderline. yet not as prevalent as it appears to be...
and yes ive done all my homework :D
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/1/2005 7:31:20 PM | oh one more thing
an actual person with bi-polar+ alcohol or drugs = psychosis
this is a painful painful thing for an individual to go thru..and can be draining to those around them....
Love them from a distance if u must, but let them know u love them | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/2/2005 7:05:36 AM | Dear AV,
The diagnosis (Borderline and bi-polar) was made by a psychologist; it follows that no medical expedition followed. All I know for sure is that I paid the bill -- and nothing got fixed. The labels do not even begin to describe the hell.
I even resorted to marriage counseling – a pastoral counseling service; her response was to seduce the marriage counselor. She married him a week after the divorce was final.
I was being very kind – re-living those nightmares would only stir the scat. The emotional trauma I endured would only start the march of bad memories, and years of healing are not served by ripping off that well-deserved scar tissue.
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/2/2005 11:22:43 AM | bipolarism is a tragic dangerous condition.
these people are a danger to themselves and others-they know right from wrong-they just can't help themselves-striking out at a person as a "target" with the bipolar person's "tangents" is a cry for help.
One min. they appear normal and (they do have a lot of friends), who like them at diff times they are elated and excessively talking- the next they are down, suicidal type..there's only one hope for those with the lack of electrolytes in the brain-they have to stay on medication for the rest of their life as the dis-ease progresses and never goes away- it gets worse..
I moved away from one sister who has this condition-they want to feel loved..You are supposed to let them know they are loved but carry on with your life as normal.
Jails don't help! matter of fact -the jails she has been familiar with will no longer accept her. she can sign her self out of a hospital or program after two weeks of good behavior. What can be done?? write letters to Governors and Senators to reccomend these types have a mandatory requirement that they have to take their meds. My sister has made my life a living hell-and all her life, since she was a kid Dad thought she just had a bad temper. she was diagnosed in 1996-now my other sister thinks she conned S.S.A. to get benefits.she gets delusional violent-and destructive., and thinks her meds won't help that she needs street drugs ..another delusion. the full blown dis-ease is prominent in the thirties and progresses. I can only stay far from her now and when we are near -it is like walking on egg shells..It is sad-one bad seed. You would not even or could not even imagine the tantics they pull-if you are not familiar with the condition. Lots of research and then stillnot knowing what to expect. the real tragedy of it all is when awoman is normal and a man calls her psycho b****..get real-no excuses!! some conditions are drug induced,some are abuse induced,and some are cases of the total psyche just splitting in two.!!when they start seeing demon-gods-they need help! when they rob their own families-they need help-when they take with them their eight yr old boy and storm off walking down a road -they need help!, when they try suicide they need help-love and support- when they attack you or your property-the police can come and restrain them until a rehab or med program accepts them.
It is the mania type like my sis-that is hard to understand and deal with and will give one some white hairs on their head..I love my sister and it pains me to see her in such inner turmoil and misery-but for my own sanity -we can not live together. she likes to drink and do drugs!-she shouldn't-and that should be enforced for that dis-ease! and as far as living with someone who is alcoholic-the whole family involved will become emotionally ill-and everyone should get therapy..I also lived with an alcoholic-not fun!!! theynot only are tryong to lill someone with the anger from the "fire water", "the devils brew" they also end up killing them selves-he died from sclerosis! and the other organs of the body mal-functioning is not a pretty thought. Another sad thing is when one with this dis-order is refused a job-that is dis-criminatory and should be unacceptable-people with dis-orders still deserve a chance..when they are properly medicated. Lithium, and tranquilizers help those in need. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/2/2005 8:31:27 PM | Wow, people are really mean towards people like me. Interesting, even a suggestion of euthanasia. Hmm.. No wonder why I am told that many people with Bi-Polar just kill themselves.
I understand that no one would want to screw up their life and live with someone else's illness, but I tell you from experience you have absolutely no idea how mentally painful this disease can be for the person who has it. You have no idea how unfair it feels to live your life and continually be brutually tortured because this disease affects everything. It causes even the simplest of things to fall apart.
Most people like me and consider me to be a really good person. An honest, sincere, genuine person. In school I was always the teachers pet, I was really liked, but in ways that I guess most of you could never understand this disease forced me to slide off the rails. It's really hard to describe to someone whose never experienced it.
Being a quiet well behaved person you would never really guess it. You would actually have to watch for it to understand. I equate it to feeling like you are living in a life that is defined as Murphy's Law. Simple goals become unattainable, the more you try to resist the more the disease seems to force you off track. It's like a slow TORTURE, yet you appear so normal.
Employers have viewed me the same way. They've ALL liked me, in fact I usually end becoming the role model employee whenever I start with a new company. It's like I climb to the top with so much potential and then I just slide off the rails after a year. At first you don't even notice it, but in time people start wondering why the change, what's the problem. Then it starts to be apparent, your self esteem plummets, things just get worse and worse... so you just make a change and start somewhere else, the same cycle over and over.
I'm not sure if many of you can comprehend what that feels like.
And the OPPOSITE SEX, well for me that has just been again like torture. I used to be a really good looking kid, now I am ok, I still get glances and smiles from good looking girls but it's almost a mute point. Relationships don't work out, it's almost like I force them not to work out inadvertantly.
I could go on, but I won't. I will tell you though, the ladies department has been the most brutual disabling part of it all. Can you imagine what it's like to going through your whole life with attractive girls actually taking an interest in you, wether it be sex or more serious dating but always having it fall apart just before anything happens because you either always react abnormally (under the pressure/stress) or because she senses somethings wrong.
It's like living in a wheelchair that no one else is aware of. People expect you to do things, you want to do them, but you just can't. It's no also no surprise to me that so many Bi-Polar people are substance abusers. Lucky for me I chose CIGARETTES, a totally useless unhealthy habit but I'd trade if for drug/alchohol addiction any day. Personally I think I started using it to inflict pain upon myself for being diseased when I was young.
Anyways, you don't have to be involved with a Bi-Polar person and suffer their wrath, but just count your blessings you get to have a choice.
P.S. Abraham Lincoln was Bi-Polar, so it's not like we are dumb people.
P.P.S. Yeah and the breaks from reality, those are just not cool. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/4/2005 9:18:50 AM | I just read your post... and I am not surprised... Seems that no one cares until after the woman gets hurt. Like about 2 months ago, half a block from my apartment, a girl was killed by a guy she had taken a restraining order agains less than 24 hours earlier...
Its a sad state of affaires... Not to mention your case where threats come from a cop...
Wish you the best... | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/7/2005 6:35:25 AM | outdoorsguy....well.....he strangled me and almost killed me...if I had not said..I LOVE you ..over and over...till the crazy look went out of his eye!!!!
Keep your eyes on him...and when you finally make a break for it.....RUN LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...cause mine damn sure did...and whew...have not looked back to see if he is there....got a restraining order...AND I now carry a gun....with a license to use it if I need to....so.......
YES.......mental patients CAN be potentially dangerous....judge told me..before all this....this man has a right to see his kids even if he is crazy..but he is not crazy or shown any dangerous tendencies....???...HUH?....that judge should have been on the receiving end of his hands....feeling himself passing out......and the amazing thing....there was no arguing....he just flipped..when I asked him to move out....because of his irrational behaviors in front of the babies....! | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/7/2005 7:46:34 AM | | There has to be a better match for you somewhere, in this great big pond. This site is all about comparing people to other people. I wouldn't mind being that person's "chat" buddy, but I wouldn't get involved with that. There has to be a better match. | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/7/2005 5:10:36 PM | | Shedevil I dont doubt that your exhusband tryed to kill you or that he was dangerous. One has to assess each person on an individual basis. It also might have been your husbands violent personality and not the illness that was at fault. The majority of bipolar patients are not dangerous to others (and I know many), but when you say things like "run" from a person who is bipolar you are offending the many Bipolar Patients who are not dangerous to others, and you are giving the illness a bad name. There are just as many "sane" people who are even more dangerous. A perfect example was Ted Bundy who killed over 20 women (he was considered sane) As I said earlier the poportion of dangerous mentally ill people is no different to the poportion of dangerous people in the rest of the population. There are some famous people that people today respect who were considered mentally ill among them was abraham lincon and winston churchill to name a few | |
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/7/2005 5:55:55 PM | Shedev....did your x have a problem drinking or drugging? I ask because my x bf had that look to when his hands were around my throats, and strip searching me. Except he was in a black out induced by the chemicals he was ingesting. He was in a state of psychosis and it was very scary. He claimed he didnt remember later on, just bits n peices. He did tell me he gets very scared himself at these tmes, But i couldnt take it any more. This was a man who had been accused of things he claimed to be others faults and he denied being responsible and i took his word for it since he had treated me well up to that point. Then eventually it began and got worse. I was afraid for my life just as you were. So hun you're not alone. I feel your pain Hugz....
Not all but many people who suffer from depression disorders do self medicate, and that self medication is normally the reason for the dangerous behavior, not the disorder itself. As I stated in a previous post.
The single worst thing a bi polar person can do is self medicate, because the brain simply cannot tolerate the change and goes off the chart. Doctor Jekyl and mister hyde syndrome as i recall...
No its not the persons fault...its just what happens... Its a shame, but true.
I mean I loved this man, but I had to leave. Not easy...
Once again not a bash to people with bi polar...my suggestion is watch for alcohol and drug use... if there is none and they take thier meds faithfully as prescribed chances are they will maintain a even keil and not have any problem maintaining a relationship, job, or anything else life has in store....
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/7/2005 7:07:59 PM | The doctor to be is half right. If she commits assualt or battery on someone else, she can be taken into custody and charged with a misdemeanor or felony domestic violence if living together. ONLY if she is a danger to herlself can she be put on a mandatory 72 hour observation hold. The difference is when placed on observation hold, she would not be under arrest and would still be allowed privledges as if she was in a hospital.
I dated a girl who was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder while we were dating. It was not a problem until she discovered crack cocaine and alcohol. At that point she was placed in a half-way house and monitored for several months. I stayed by her through the house, but it was when she was released and went manic on me that I decided it would be best if we were to only be friends. She then proceeded to call me about 2 months later and proclaim, "I AM PREGNANT" and there is a 20% chance that it could be mine. This was the start of the compulsive lying and I was forced to sever a long time friendship and relationship with a person that I cared deeply about.
This is a very serious disease and needs to be monitored very carefully if you choose to date her. Otherwise I would have to agree with the consensus of the group and tell you to run for the hills like hell and do not look back.
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| What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/8/2005 1:42:12 PM | | Angel.....he did have a problem with drinking..but NOT drugs..but he wasnt drinking at all when this happened....and he knew exactly what he was doing....he wasnt going to leave me he said......well breathing anyway....said..he Wouldnt live without me..and vice versa..?....yep..psychotic......I am love adventure....but darn it.......I do love to breathe..ya know..LMAO | |
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