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 Artistee

Joined: 7/24/2006
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What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/27/2007 7:49:49 PM
I always say, "Hello...I must be going now..."
 Dragon Lady 1968

Joined: 5/23/2007
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What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/28/2007 12:10:45 AM
I am bi polar but I am mild and am not a violent person or take things out on people. I have also been reluctate to even post anything because I realize how brutal people can be on here.

When I see people who telling people to run from us just because we are bi polar it makes me mad and it also makes me want to give everyone who is so cruel a piece of my mind and yes I do speak my mind but can't really say some of the things I want.

I would get band from this site and also I have been on this site once and then deleted it because I met someone and yes I let them know that I was bi polar which didn't matter to that person but it wasn't my bi polar that ruined the relationship.

Then I came back to the site and when I did met someone from this site I was honest with them also but I did get tired of all the game playing on here that I just only came on here for the forums now and yes I did met someone and they don't have a problem with the fact that I do have bi polar.

I also have guys who want to still email me and want to get to know me and I have changed my profile well I tell them I do have someone but now from seeing this post I will be left alone.
 lilnursemama

Joined: 8/28/2007
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What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/28/2007 2:12:09 AM
IS A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE IN THE BRAIN, MANIFESTED BY EXTREME MANIC PHASES: RAPID SPEECH, EXCESSIVE HAPPINESS, FLIGHT OF IDEAS AND THAN YOU CRASH AND HIT THE DEPRESSIVE STAGE, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET OUT OF BED TO CLEAN YOUR OWN ASS...IT GETS REALLY BAD, TRUST ME.
 kismet_karen

Joined: 7/10/2006
Msg: 212
What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/28/2007 5:20:20 AM
I dated someone that was bipolar ... for a year.
Taken me almost 18 months to get back to the person I was before i met him so hopefully that explains how hard it is on the person that doesnt have bipolar too. There are many great books on living with people that have bipolar - excellent resources. I wasnt tough enough to not take everything personally. I wish you all the love and luck in the world.
 Driveucrazy1

Joined: 9/2/2007
Msg: 213
What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 9/28/2007 6:29:27 AM
A bipolar person shouldn't be drinking. That's a ticking time bomb. I would recommend you get away from this person faaaaaaaaaaaaar away. She is only adding to her disease by drinking.
 mikeilike

Joined: 9/22/2007
Msg: 214
What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 11/6/2007 2:33:07 AM
I am bipolar.

You can drink a little, but not often, and not a lot.

The issue for me is that living with someone who is not stable or on the proper meds can be very hard for anyone. I dated a bipolar girl for 20 years - it's possible, but it was her alcoholism late in life that did me in.

So like my previous poster's post says - run away. 1 is hard enough with out the other.
 cyn3100

Joined: 8/4/2006
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What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 11/7/2007 2:59:55 AM
It used to be called Manic/Depressive. They have extreme mood swings to put it mildly. One minute they think they can fly and the next they're suicidal. There is effective treatment available. They really need professional help.
 Gotapulse

Joined: 3/21/2005
Msg: 216
What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 11/7/2007 3:49:31 AM
Actually , it's the alcoholism that would send me screaming for the hills more than the bipolar disorder. The way I figure it there is no shortage of people with mental illnesses walking around undetected anyway. If they can otherwise keep it in check then that tells me that they're responsible enough to deal with their illness. The alcoholism may be the result of a symptom of the disorder but one way or another it IS a choice to engage in excessive drinking .

I'm about as understanding about the matter as I figure I can be but my heart stopped bleeding for most people and their problems when I realized that most people tend to create their own life issues. In other words , I can sympathize with the bipolar sufferer but not with the alcoholic. One's a choice , the other isn't and either way treatment is available. If you can keep it controlled then that's good enough for me. Alcoholism is pretty much the definition of loss of self-control.
 4infinity07

Joined: 10/4/2007
Msg: 217
What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 11/7/2007 4:04:23 AM
Thank you for explaining that just as you did...I am bipolar but not a alcoholic...Medication does help with Bipolar...I take one pill a day to regulate mine...but what kills me is that because I am bipolar I am judged differently when i tell a man that i am... I believe in being honest...it was how I was raised to be...Being bipolar does not make you a bad person or crazy...It is no difference than someone with diabetes that has to take insulin...Funny that no one says or thinks anything about dating someone who is diabetic but letting a man know you are bipolar is like a deadly sin...And what is worse is when the guy makes a derogatory comment that can not be contrused to be taken any other way but hurtful and having no compassion for others...It is not like i ask to have a chemical imbalance in my brain...It does not make me any less of a woman...and i have never used it as a crutch...what people do not realize that there are many famous people that made great impact in the lives of others and life as we know it that were bi polar...there are pro football players that are bipolar...People can function with bipolar just like those do that are diabetic...When others that do not understand bipolar or have it place unecessary judgement on those who do they may be missing out on the best thing that could ever cross their path...Be proud of who you are...bipolar or not! I am a good woman and have a good heart and if someone can't see past stigmatisms that society has placed on the disorder then it will be there loss...
Michelle
 iL0veSh0es

Joined: 9/5/2007
Msg: 218
What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 11/7/2007 11:31:50 PM
I'm bipolar once a month, heh.
 mikeilike

Joined: 9/22/2007
Msg: 219
What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 11/8/2007 6:55:40 AM
Thanks gotapulse - it's important for me to hear your compassion with the majority of people scared of who we are.

infinity, thank you for bringing up that there are famous normal people with bipolar. For the rest of you, here are a few of them who admit they are...

Buzz Aldrin (astronaut)
Drew Carrey (comedian)
Jim Carrey (actor)
Winston Churchill (leader of England)
Ted Turner (ceo of time warner)
Robin Williams (comedian)
Sting (musician)

I could go on and on, but are the people above all that bad? With proper meds, many of us are normal. Most of what you hear about bipolars however are the horror stories of people that aren't properly medicated or haven't found "thier right pill" yet. Thanks again gotapulse.
 4infinity07

Joined: 10/4/2007
Msg: 220
What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 11/8/2007 7:41:54 AM
Thank you mikeilike for pointing out the famous peoples names and their professions...maybe it will wake a few people up...I guess the reality to it all is that those that really have a clue about life and have the compassion like gotapulse for example will help show the world that being bipolar is a condition in which one has no control over but can be helped with medication...I think you hit it right on the nose when you said that most people hear the horror stories of those whom are not properly medicated or haven't found the "right" pill and instead of looking at each individual society just chunks everyone in the same category of being crazy...
My son also has bipolar and when he was much younger a school district superintendent in Texas made the mistake of telling me my son was a bad kid because he did not understand or believe in this disorder. The second mistake was not having the programs in place for children with the disorder in the school system as mandated by the Texas Education Agency. I know more about this disorder than most because I studied it to protect my child from a someone who thought he was above everyone else. I fought the school district and for my son and 11 other children who were not being served in that district. I did not fight for the rights of these children to gain anything monetary I fought for their rights to be productive in life and be given a fair shake despite the disorder. So that they may have the right to be educated just like everyone else and not have judgement placed on them for something they have no control over. I won against the school district and they were held accountable for their actions and non-actions and to this day are being monitored by the TEA. Our children are our future and we should teach them through example that placing judgement on others is wrong and can be very hurtful to those being judged!
Thanks again mikeilike and to gotapulse...It is nice to know that there are men on this planet that have the compassion, knowledge and understanding of this disorder...I know first hand there are very few men like you both in this vast world of our much less in the area where I live...
4infinity,
Kat
 7rainbows

Joined: 1/6/2007
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What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 11/8/2007 11:19:06 AM
It is difficult when you meet someone with alcohol problems, you want to help them but they refuse to see it is an issue even though they have the most dreadful of hangovers the next day, walk round vomiting while your with them, get barred from pubs cause of their behaviour, forget things specialy things as important as giving phone numbers out to people , things they have said to you etc.

It hurts you to see them treating themselves that way, no matter how much you like them, how much you try your very best to help them they can turn on you at any time, i dont mean violence (although that does happen in some cases) but verbally, or just even ignoring you, disrespecting you in some way. I feel they dont know they are doing it and when you do try to talk to them about their behaviour towards you, they see you as being the one in the wrong not them.

Mental illness is another issue, this can be controled with meds and therapy. I dont think i would be scared off by someone with mental health problems providing they were trying to help themselves, the alcohol thing though is a different issue. If they dont see its a problem then it can become dangerous, particularly if you like that person a lot, you end up getting hurt. I think i would avoid someone with alcohol problems in future. I met someone i thought was a good friend but i ended up being hurt by him so guess iv learnt my lesson, so will see this as a positive thing as iv learnt from it and become a bit tougher and more selective who i get involved with.

Reading some of the posts here though im thinking maybe he DID have a mental health problem too and the drink was making him worse. I know alcohol can be a depressive.
 starzabove

Joined: 8/13/2006
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What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 11/9/2007 1:56:05 AM
Bipolar= A mood disorder sometimes called manic-depressive illness or manic-depression that characteristically involves cycles of depression and elation or mania. Sometimes the mood switches from high to low and back again are dramatic and rapid, but more often they are gradual and slow, and intervals of normal mood may occur between the high (manic) and low (depressive) phases of the condition. The symptoms of both the depressive and manic cycles may be severe and often lead to impaired functioning.

Both phases of the disease are deleterious. Mania affects thinking, judgment, and social behavior in ways that may cause serious problems and embarrassment. For example, unwise business or financial decisions may be made when an individual is in a manic phase. Depression can also affect thinking, judgment, and social behavior in ways that may cause grave problems. For example, it elevates the risk of suicide. About 5.7 million American adults, or about 2.6 percent of the population aged 18 and older, have bipolar disorder.
 lancelotfl

Joined: 9/28/2006
Msg: 223
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Posted: 11/12/2007 9:10:07 AM
Three words: color me gone.
 Thorb

Joined: 7/15/2005
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What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 11/12/2007 9:21:13 AM
Understanding is needed by both parties.
Not an attractive first date impression so not very likely to get much further.

Meds work to a degree for various levels of mental problems but Alchol doesn't mix with meds. ... so something to me says .... no way without a lot of effort to help themselves get off the alchol. As I said... a just meeting would probably mean I'm not getting involved since my life is already complex enough.

good luck and remember
you can't help everyone.

 mlsaarln

Joined: 9/23/2006
Msg: 225
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Posted: 11/12/2007 9:26:26 AM
lonegun, being that you had some involvement in the child's life, why don't you contact child protective services? It may be the only way she can be forced to get help. Good luck!
 whisperingsilence

Joined: 10/11/2007
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Posted: 11/12/2007 9:27:43 AM
well i just want to add the mixture of the drugs she takes for bipoler and drinking is a time bomb in itself. not a safe or good combination...
wish i could find your first post but i cant see it. lol i am so blond
 Brit1960

Joined: 12/1/2007
Msg: 227
What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 1/24/2008 4:24:53 PM
have been living with a bipolar woman who will not take her meds and is also an alcoholic for the past 9 months. Her medicine was her drink, when she drunk she drunk excessively, anything from 50 to 120 cans of beer a week. On top of that she used to sneak a bottle of licquor in the house too without me knowing. I didn't know she was as bad as she was until we moved in together. I bought a house for her, her 2 girls and myself to live in. Then the problems started. Her mood swings got worse with her drinking, her young girls were freaking out at her, if I tried to intervene, I got yelled at. She told whopping lies, the biggest one was that her 21 year old son had gone missing in action in Iraq just before Thanksgiving. He reappeared 10 days later. Truth was, he never went missing in the 1st place, her work even gave her grievance leave, I didn't find out until I asked him when he came home at Christmas. I was seeking therapy in how to deal with this disease that she had. Then on January 11th 2008, I came home from work and she had gone. She had took her girls, most of her stuff, she wont talk to me, she has turned the girls and her best friend against me and I did nothing wrong except for love her and supported her. To make matters worse she spent a lot of my money on beer and cigarettes, plus $1000 dollars on the girls Christmas presents, even on her last day she went on a spending spree. I have been left with lots of debts and a broken heart
 slangblade

Joined: 12/21/2007
Msg: 228
What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 1/24/2008 4:47:44 PM
Proverbs 12:11...
11 He who tills his land will be satisfied with bread,
But he who follows frivolity is devoid of understanding.
 lolLori

Joined: 5/16/2006
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What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 1/24/2008 5:23:48 PM
The one an only pyscological illness tha cant be helped is narcissism. If a biop[olar on Meds is also an alcohalic the DR. doesnt know and cant precrible the balance of mood stabilizer required. As we all know Alcohal is a major depressant that stays at least 2 weeks in the body a alcohalic needs more stabalizing chemical to conteract these drugs related to alcohal daily. People with bipolar disorder usually have more stress than any one and theyre usually have high intelligence and creativety. Alcohal is more of a trigger to a bipolar incidence and stress. Too much depression(alcohal) is like when someone jumps off the see-saw bam - from high to low. manic to the nth. My main point Im glad to hear how perfectly well you all are from this attack on mental illness as if its a person or something.. Just how many other people have you (perfectly) sent over the edge.
 cncgandolf

Joined: 7/29/2007
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What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 1/24/2008 5:33:37 PM

famous normal people with bipolar


And for the soap opera lovers, Sonny from General Hospital.

My mother was bipolar, my father an alocholic. I work with people who are both. The original poster implies that the person is not in recovery or treatment. Both diseases are progressive and both do respond to treatment. Alcoholism has several programs/treatments for recovery. BiPolar has drugs that stablize the person.

A bipolar alcoholic in recovery and medicated can be a wonderful person to know.
 loveisclickaway

Joined: 2/1/2006
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What if you meet someone on here thats bipolar and is an alcoholic?
Posted: 1/24/2008 5:43:08 PM
I can't believe you have to ask.....
 lolLori

Joined: 5/16/2006
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Posted: 1/24/2008 6:22:27 PM
I tried helping someone, for 12 years. No, it's not their fault...until that moment when they decide that they are fine the way they are. Just like any addiction, it won't work, if


Oh then finally you realized they werent worth it after 12 yrs mmmmm and what do you think was this person delusional enough to have you help them that length of time without concern for your useless ability at helping them pee or get off the pot if you cant help you should have known before 12 years - maybe it wasnt their fault ?
 .Marc

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Posted: 1/24/2008 6:23:49 PM
You say-- Sorry, it wouldn't work for reason X.
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