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| Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 2/1/2007 6:38:29 AM |
Although, making it illegal only makes it a little bit tougher for a determined child to get, but that's better than nothing.
That's been my point as well others who have posted on this thread.Keeping MJ illegal does NOT make it more difficult,in fact it makes it easier.If a kid wants liquor or cigarettes,he's NOT going to get them legally.He will purchase or steal these substances ILLEGALLY,the SAME WAY HE WILL BUY POT NOW! ILLEGALLY!If pot were legal,with age restrictions,just like alcohol and nicotine are now,it will in fact be more difficult to obtain,that is IF age restrictions are enforced as toughly as they are now,at least in my area anyway.They crack down on underage drinking and smoking in my area, it's much tougher for a minor to get booze and cigs than it is to get pot.Anyone dealing in illegal substances doesn't care who they sell to,a person who's business is selling legal substances has a vested interest in making sure their product doesn't get into the wrong hands.
I don't know why that's so difficult for some people to understand. | |
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| Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 2/1/2007 7:38:15 AM | assuming that at least 95% of hard drug users and addicts have smoked pot,
And the gate way idea has been discredited again and again.
I would say that all hard drug users started off with Chocolate, or mothers milk. Lets ban those too. Substance abuse and addiction are built into the Character traits of some (regradless of the drug). Not everyone reacts in the same way. Just like not everyone who has a beer becomes an alocoholic.
The only way pot leads to "harder drugs" is because the pushers have them on hand. If pot were legal people would not need to go to pushers and as such would have less access to those "harder drugs". Then only the "determined" will purse them. | |
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Posted: 2/1/2007 7:42:21 AM |
I think I would be correct in assuming that at least 95% of hard drug users and addicts have smoked pot, and probably did so before they moved on to harder drugs.
So does it naturally follow that 95% of people who have tried pot have moved on to harder drugs?
I would probably be correct in assuming that 99% of all murderers who killed doctors who ran abortion clinics have read the bible, so ought we not to keep people from reading the bible in order to prevent pro-life induced killings? | |
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Posted: 2/1/2007 10:06:25 AM | Keeping MJ illegal does NOT make it more difficult,in fact it makes it easier.If a kid wants liquor or cigarettes,he's NOT going to get them legally.
I don't necessarily agree with that assessment. Again, I use the gateway argument which I think is still valid, because pot certainly more often than not comes after the experimentation with cigs and alcohol.
I would say that all hard drug users started off with Chocolate, or mothers milk. Lets ban those too.
Yes but those are not mind altering chemicals, in fact they could be considered life supporting chemicals. Clearly that does not really apply.
Substance abuse and addiction are built into the Character traits of some (regradless of the drug). Not everyone reacts in the same way. Just like not everyone who has a beer becomes an alocoholic.
What if we let all people above the age of 18 carry deadly weapons? Certainly it's up to the carrier to decide to use that weapon in the heat of anger, and not all people would react to anger the same way, no....but I'm certain the national 3rd degree murder rate would get higher.
The only way pot leads to "harder drugs" is because the pushers have them on hand.
Good point, but the question is, after the child tries pot(which will be easier to do if it's made legal), will he seek out the pusher in search of the newer high...since he liked the feeling from pot so much. Whereas, if pot wasn't as easily accessible and he never had a chance to try it before this phase in his life wore off, would he be saved from that life completely?
So does it naturally follow that 95% of people who have tried pot have moved on to harder drugs?
No, the number is smaller than that. I would say that just about everyone who tried pot for the first time did so either to "fit in", or to try a new high. There aren't really any good/wholesome reasons for trying pot, are there? So, what does naturally follow is that anyone with the inclination to try pot has the pre-disposed personality it would require to try something harder. The only reasons he wouldn't try something harder would be because either A: Because that drug is MORE ILLEGAL (proving that making a substance illegal makes it more difficult to try) or B: He exercised self-control and understood the risks were too great for his body and mind. The answer B will almost never be the case for someone trying to fit in, and for the one searching for a new high the answer B only becomes a reality if that person's wish for a new high no longer outweighs his self-respect for his body and mind.
I would probably be correct in assuming that 99% of all murderers who killed doctors who ran abortion clinics have read the bible, so ought we not to keep people from reading the bible in order to prevent pro-life induced killings?
Clearly at times in our society, violence is the only course of action when trying to halt an existing murderer from commiting more murders. That example all depends on where you stand on the abortion issue...not really a fair example. | |
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| Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 2/1/2007 10:16:59 AM | | Also, if we legalize pot on the grounds of it being a natural substance, what of mushrooms, and hash, and hash oil? If you're in favour of legalizing pot why don't you assert the social value of these drugs as well, which are naturally occuring? Perhaps it's because you don't use them regularly, which makes you indifferent about them, in which case you should question your real motives about legalizing pot, should you not? Is this thread a self-pity thread after all? lol j/k | |
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Posted: 2/1/2007 10:44:01 AM | "hash, and hash oil"
Not naturally occuring...they are by products of MJ......some refinement must take place to create those substances.
Since when does something have to have social value to be legal? Do alcohol and cigarettes have social value? The argument about kids having easier access is totally invalid. As another poster said...store owners interested in keeping their license have a vested interest in seeing that underage kids don't buy it....unlike the dealer now who doesn't care who he sells it to. That dealer would likely be out of business if it were legal. Outside of a few moonshiners, know any alcohol dealers?........any cigarette dealers?
"I would say that all hard drug users started off with Chocolate, or mothers milk. Lets ban those too.
Yes but those are not mind altering chemicals, in fact they could be considered life supporting chemicals"
Chocolate produces a chemical reaction in the brain very similar to sexual arousal...i would say that is mind altering.....to say chocolate is a life supporting chemical is disingenuous at best.
"What if we let all people above the age of 18 carry deadly weapons?"
Since when are you not allowed to carry a weapon? With handguns in some places you must have a carry permit but I could walk down Main St. with a broadsword and no one could do a damn thing about it as long as I don't threaten anyone.
"after the child tries pot(which will be easier to do if it's made legal)"
Just false...a 13 year old can get pot now pretty easy....It would be much more difficult if he had to find someone of age to buy it for him....as I told you before, the pot dealer would become a thing of the past.
"I would say that just about everyone who tried pot for the first time did so either to "fit in", or to try a new high."
Silly statement....an assumption on your part with no basis in fact, or even personal experience I'm guessing....what makes you qualified to make such a sweeping statement?
As a kid I could get pot(illegal)anytime I wanted it. Alcohol, on the other hand, i had to find someone to buy it for me or get a fake ID. Had pot been legal, I would have to go thru the same things to get it as alcohol. | |
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Posted: 2/1/2007 12:35:43 PM | Not naturally occuring...they are by products of MJ......some refinement must take place to create those substances.
By that logic fossil fuels are not naturally occuring either then, since they need some refinement before they reach our gas tanks? As you said, it's a bi-product of a natural growth. And what of magic mushrooms?
Since when does something have to have social value to be legal?
Than why do you wish to legalize it if the oppostie is true as you say?
store owners interested in keeping their license have a vested interest in seeing that underage kids don't buy it...
It was always easier for me to get smokes as a child (bought my first pack at 11 years old)than it was to find a pot dealer. Perhaps store owners have a vested interest in making a profit also?
Chocolate produces a chemical reaction in the brain very similar to sexual arousal...i would say that is mind altering
Uh huh....so I guess the next time you get that burning feeling in your loins you won't bother taking care of it....you'll just grab some M&M's, huh?
Chocolate is food, and could be lived on if it was the only food available, therefore it COULD be considered life supporting. Also, people don't do things that they normally wouldn't under the influence of sugar, do they?
Since when are you not allowed to carry a weapon? With handguns in some places you must have a carry permit but I could walk down Main St. with a broadsword and no one could do a damn thing about it as long as I don't threaten anyone.
Where can you carry a gun without a permit? With a broadsword, a person still has the ability to run away from you..so it's a lot less dangerous but it must still be concealed, no? You can't very well hold it upright with both arms while walking down Main, can you?
It would be much more difficult if he had to find someone of age to buy it for him
Not if it's at every corner store in the nieghbourhood. All he has to do is ask people to buy it for him, and even if the first 9 people say no, the tenth usually says yes. BTW, I am saying this from experience since I took up regular smoking at the age of 13.
Silly statement....an assumption on your part with no basis in fact, or even personal experience I'm guessing....what makes you qualified to make such a sweeping statement?
Well, maybe, but what other reasons are there for experimenting with illegal drugs for the first time? The medicinal argument, which might apply to 1-3% of first time users?
As a kid I could get pot(illegal)anytime I wanted it. Alcohol, on the other hand, i had to find someone to buy it for me or get a fake ID.
Than you didn't try very hard. It was always pretty easy to get someone to buy you booze, especially if you offered an incentive of a few bucks. On the other hand, if you dont' know any dealers, or if your usual dealer is unavailable??? | |
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Posted: 2/1/2007 1:03:26 PM | Than why do you wish to legalize it if the oppostie is true as you say?
Because the BUZZ has nothing to do with the Hemp Prohibition, it is a smoke screen to distract from the Economic competition Hemp production would cause for Plastics, Nylon, Paper, Bio-Fuels, Clothing, housing, fiber, lubricants, paint, seed for cultivation, animal feed, veterinary medicine, oil, etc., etc. As well as hemp plants can be used for crop rotation, erosion control, pest control, weed control, etc., etc.
All of these uses would cut into Corporate Profit$.
That is why it is Illegal. The Gov't does not care about your Health. | |
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Posted: 2/1/2007 1:08:20 PM | You were the one suggesting that something had to have social value to be legal not me. But since you asked, the medicinal properties of MJ far outweigh alcohol and cigarettes combined.
Got no problem with mushrooms either. Wouldn't suggest you drove after you ate them, but if that's what you want to do go for it.
So an admitted smoker and drinker thinks MJ should be illegal. Where's the logic there? Thousands of alcohol related crashes every year and not one documented case of an MJ user(who wasn't also drinking)causing a car accident. Now explain to me again why your mind altering drug of choice(alcohol)should be legal and MJ should not.
As far as the concealed weapon thing....you didn't say "guns"....you said lethal weapon which could be anything.
"Well, maybe, but what other reasons are there for experimenting with illegal drugs for the first time? The medicinal argument, which might apply to 1-3% of first time users?"
What was your reason for drinking that first beer? Why kids do it is irrelevant to this discussion....they are doing it....the question then becomes how best to keep it out of their hands. You've admitted that you had no trouble getting cigs and alcohol underage....why should pot be any different. Half a dozen convienience stores in my little town alone have been cited and slapped with big fines for selling cigs to underage kids. It's a different climate now than when you were a kid....especially since I was a kid. Hell, I could smoke at school back then...so I i'm not buying that portion of your argument about it being any easier to get.
If you really think there would be more kids using pot if it were legal, you're just kidding yourself. Don't take my word for it......stop and ask the next high school kid you see and ask him what's easier to get...pot or alcohol? I don't think you'd like the answer.
But I can see you must have some personal issue with pot.....your resistance to any logic on the subject has led me to that conclusion. So keep on drinking and smoking cigs, secure in your knowledge that you are morally superior because you are against pot. Meanwhile back in the real world, the rest of will continue to try to end the useless War on Drugs and and put the millions of dollars the government flushes down the shitter putting harmless user in jail to better use....say in education, health care assistance, shoring up social security...you know....minor stuff...not nearly as important as making sure Tommy Chong is not out there corrupting our youth. After all....we have Budwieser to do that for us.....and it's perfectly legal too. | |
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| Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 2/1/2007 1:31:42 PM |
It was always easier for me to get smokes as a child (bought my first pack at 11 years old)than it was to find a pot dealer. Perhaps store owners have a vested interest in making a profit also?
You are speaking from personal experience.Do you have empirical data to support your claim that the current age restriction laws do nothing to curb underage drinking or smoking?If you do,present it.The anti alcohol and anti smoking people can sure find stats to backup their claims that cracking down on underage drinking and smoking DOES IN FACT WORK.True, if a kid wants it bad enough,they'll get it,most likely from an adult who buys it for them,who,by the way can face some serious jail time if they are caught.So your argument based on your own personal anecdotal experience has no empirical data to back it up.
Storeowners make plenty of money from legal sales.There is no incentive for them to jeopardize their business by doing something illegal. | |
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| Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 2/1/2007 3:13:59 PM | Dangerous weapons!?!?!?! I don't get it. How can you kill somebody using a 8ball of cocaine in fit of rage? Make them roll up a bill, chop it up, and snort it all at once?? Seems to me you would need a gun or similar weapon to accomplish that
I'm 26 and I still get carded occaisionally buying booze. Not once has a dealer ever asked me to produce ID. You walk down the street in certain areas in any major (or even no so major) city in Canada and the US (and unless you live under a rock, you know where these streets are in your town), and the dealers will find YOU. This is well known. I've lived in small towns too, and its no harder to find there; so to argue that legalization would make it easier for kids to get marijuana, you are simply stupid (which I doubt but it's one of the few possibilities), willfully ignorant, or supplying the argument for the sole purpose of being contrary.
I fail to see how hash or hash oil is any different than raw, cured marijuana buds in terms of societal impact. It simply gets you stoned faster.
Magic Mushroom???? Since when did they become the scourge of youth? When was the last time you heard of anyone being hurt in a mushroom induced drug frenzy? Or howabout anyone being robbed to support someones life - crippling psilocybin addiction.
Beware the roving Volkswagen van mafia, known all over the world to congregate in cow pastures to harvest their fell narcotic and rape our youth.
Not to mention, when you give your money to a dealer... where does it go??? Why to the upper echelons of organized crime, of course, where it is used to import heroin and cocaine, and many other things i could think of which would be just speculation, but if you use your brain you will realize that it ain't all going to save the children bike rallies.
Besides, the pro pot lobby doesnt believe there is anything wrong with marijuana from a moral standpoint, so even if it did make it easier for the kids to get, who cares??
It's up to parents to decide what is right for their children, at any rate within reason.
And most pot smokers I know are pretty reasonable people. | |
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Posted: 2/1/2007 6:01:43 PM | I'm not sure what part of my arguments incited your feathers to be ruffled (to those of you who either called me stupid, morally snobbish or purposely defiant), as if I was personally attacking your sole reason for being. And how can I be asked to provide "empirical data" when your entire argument is based on pure hypothesis in the first place, since legalizing it has never been done, yet you feel you can claim as fact that doing so would not be as harmful to society as proposed, hmm?
In any case, I have no really strong feelings about it, just presenting the other side of debate since the thread seemed to be lacking any anti-legalizers, but since I've got you all in a "smoking" rage (lol), I'll just duck out and let you all pat yourselves on the back while you reassure each other of your reasons for justification. Bye. | |
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Posted: 2/2/2007 10:25:54 AM | | Hey no lack of "any anti-legalizers", read the thread, there have been tons. Only that they have all lacked any reasons that could be backed up. | |
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Posted: 2/2/2007 11:31:43 AM | Trewg... taurus... You guys are still here keepin this thread alive??? wow!
I wonder how many times youve had the same lame arguments thrown at you, time and again, especially by those who should have taken the time to read the whole thread. They woulda realized that they are just being rhetorical, at best, and not repeated arguments that were already proven to be flaccid.
Im gettin a migraine....
I think ill go smoke me a fat joint, cuz its the ONLY thing Ive found to help, and on that note alone, personally, I say SCREW all the nay-sayers!
I do give you two props for attempting to educate the ignorant! | |
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Posted: 2/2/2007 12:52:39 PM |
your entire argument is based on pure hypothesis in the first place, since legalizing it has never been done, yet you feel you can claim as fact that doing so would not be as harmful to society as proposed, hmm?
perhaps it hasn't been legalized in America, but it has been legal in the Netherlands for years. Look up the statistics. | |
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Posted: 2/2/2007 1:12:13 PM | And it only became illegal in 1938, after Tens of Thousands of Years of Use.
So what happened in 1938 that changed?
Dupont got their patent for Nylon and hemp was their biggest competition.
For Thousands and thousands of years Hemp was not a problem for anyone, till it became a problem for the big boy's profit$. | |
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Posted: 2/2/2007 4:23:18 PM | | Pot would collapse the economy; it would hurt the cigarette and alcohol industry, pharmaceutical companies, drug cartel and automobile industry, it would break the State and Federal Bank. To make pot legal would create a domino effect that would change the world. Scenario: Lets say everyone gave up alcohol and grew their own pot. We wouldn’t need people to grow trees for the paper labels, lumberjacks; work clothing, work tools, schools-training, office clerks for payrolls and so on, health insurance, construction workers and electricians; roads, building, warehouses and so on, logging trucks, label designers. That is just part of what it takes to make the label not to even mention what goes into making the bottle; filling the bottle, trucking the bottle, selling the bottle and recycling the bottle. You wouldn’t need the business’s that all come together that produce that bottle of beer. Millions of people would be out of a profession. It could have a catastrophically effect on society. So is pot not a good thing? I say yes to this question, the price is to great to pay for legal pot. | |
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| Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 2/2/2007 8:09:25 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh, what?
<div class="quote">it would hurt the cigarette and alcohol industry
So what? Any jobs lost to the hypothetical and unlikely damage to the alcohol and tobacco industries would just be replaced by jobs producing marijuna for consumers. If it actually replaced smoking for a signifigant amount of people, it would in fact HELP the economy since less public funding would need to go into health care.
<div class="quote">pharmaceutical companies, drug cartel and automobile industry
pharmeceutical companies (which make obscene profits through gouging sick people) could easily turn it into a profitable situation by marketing THC in much the same way they market other drugs; and in any case, other companies owned by the parent comanies of the pharmeceutical companies are in a position to market it anyways, and in fact have patents prepare for the day when marijauna becomes legal.
Please explan how drug cartels being hurt financially is a bad thing.
Would people be using marijuana as a form of transportation if it became legal? How would it affect the auto industry?
<div class="quote">Scenario: Lets say everyone gave up alcohol and grew their own pot
If that was ever going to happen people would have done it already.
And even if everyone quit alcohol to smoke weed, They wouldnt all take the time to grow it themselves. Just because its legal to grow your own food, You don't see everyone growing their food supply in their living room or back yard (for those who HAVE back yards); Grocery stores seem to do pretty well.
Believe it or not, it takes time, patience, skill, and attention to grow good marijuana. Not to mention supplies which cost money, so there again you would have other sectors of the economy which would benifit from the shift.
Also, I fail to see how the packaging, lumber, shipping, retail and recycling industries would suddenly grind to a standstill because people weren't drinking beer anymore.
Besides, you can survive by eating marijuana and partying just isnt the same without beer.
But thats okay since you were probably just trolling anyhow | |
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| Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 2/2/2007 11:38:42 PM | Wholehearted's post was of course a ruse, as if one more commodity on the market would ruin everything, its almost as ridiculous as some people who believe that pot’s legal market would save the economy by itself.
Both are exaggerations, because we have already established that all hemp products were legal through most of America‘s history, and I don’t know if it has been mentioned but in 1942 the USDA produced the film “Hemp for Victory” to promote “growth of 350,000 acres of cannabis by 1943 -- all for the war effort.”
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6234815658481845054
The USDA was distributing 400,000 pounds of cannabis seeds to all farmers who viewed the film even leaving them exempt from the Draft if they worked with the USDA’s program!
Next besides overwhelming evidence provided that legal carefully controlled, and properly taken drugs are far more deadly than all illicit drugs combined. We are left with the question of why everything that causes more deaths than illicit drugs combined are not outlawed? There can be no logical conclusion that makes sense for pot to remain illegal, but even more so that any drug of any kind should remain illegal.
Still people will argue degrees of damage from drugs while dying in an auto accident, or dying from Vioxx poisoning, but without naming the countless victims of a worldwide tragedy called “The War on Drugs”, in fact they will deny that these people are innocent, and they will deny that the “Drug Warriors” murder children, parents, grandparents in their homes, but they do, and they do it with money forcibly taken from the very victims they have slain!
So to you pitiful denouncers of Rights and people, you must feel smug thinking you have saved a child’s life by voting for that new “COMBAT” program tax, while innocent victims are ruined by your love of an ideal that is based upon false assumptions and outright lies!
Have a nice day!  | |
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| Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 2/3/2007 3:16:45 AM | Quite true, Natural Freedom. I agree with your sentiment whole heartedly. The War on Drugs is really the War on Drug Users. As Marilyn Manson (I'm not kidding!) stated so eloquently, "Drug abusers ruin things for drug users."
Hear hear!
If one really wanted to reduce drug abuse, one would have to address the issues as to why the kids are self-medicating. Cuts to health care as well as a desire to move away from the days of throwing the mentally ill in institutions has resulted in millions of our fellow citizens homeless or otherwise economically disadvantaged. Combine that with the stigma of mental illnesses such as depression and you see why self-medication can be such a lucrative industry.
The Government, based upon western European cultural heritages, have decided that alcohol is what they want you to relax with while watching the game or chatting up the ladies. This is despite an American prohibition on alcohol in the 20's. Lo and behold they discovered that, if enough people want something, they will get it and you can't stop them. Combine that reality check with the Depression and the need to create new industy, and you have a failed experiment. A pity, considering its addictiveness and the kind of violent jerk alcohol makes you.
In 1920's America, good cops and brave men were killed over beer. Almost 90 years later the loss of life seems pointless and arbitrary upon reflection. In Canada recently, we've had four young Mounties killed at a grow-op. It shocked our nation, and it too seems pointless and arbitrary. The idea that you will be able to wipe MJ off the face of the planet and end humanity's love affair with the plant is ridiculous. Too many people want it, too many people need to grow it to make a living... and unlike crack, cocaine and alcohol, it's die-hard fans aren't dying off.
However, by keeping it illegal, it means the work will attract the dodgiest characters and that means more officers down over something that, unlike crack, cocaine and alcohol, grows naturally without a chemical process involved.
So here are the choices available:
A. Continue taxpayer funding for more truncheons and prisons.
B. Fly to England and assist Prof. Steven Hawkings in discovering the Unified Field Theory making time travel possible, go back to the Ancient Greeks to distribute seeds and get Aristotle high so that you'd get a celebrity endorsement (they would've made the most beautiful bongs!), thus making it perfectly acceptable in today's society.
C. Legalize it, pardon everyone doing time who got caught with less than an ounce so that they can get back to work earning tax dollars. Take control of all grow ops which will employ the local populaces. It will be packaged and available to the public at special shops where you will be asked to provide ID. Government scientists will work on strains that reduce the THC levels back to 1965 levels. Tackle education and mental health issues with the same level of resources as it took to put man on the moon or shoot brown people overseas and maybe in the future humanity won't feel like getting high.
Just remember, once the government is in charge of something, it inevitably gets ruined. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 5:08:17 PM | | Because our government can't make money off it, plain and simple. Somewhere everyday there are some crooked authorities that let the Tons of heroin and cocaine through the borders, for a price, but the best pot in north america usually comes right from your neighbors basement! | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 7:56:44 PM | | Well JulzDude here it is!!, Having grown up in San Francisco in the sixties where pretty much half the city was smoking pot..this is my opinion on the subject..and believe me I get flack from it alot..If you have ever known people that smoke it on a regular basis, and I mean morning noon and night...imagine a 10 year in middle school being able to get a person to buy a pack of joints at the local grocery store...Now granted, he or she could get it anywhere if they really wanted it...I personaly don't think that we has a society is ready for 10 to 14 year old kids being able to purchase pot so easily, as an adult I think we can handle the effects and deal with the ongoings in our lives..I just don,t think middle school kids are ready for it, they have enough to think about, such as puberty,education, and just social life in general..........other than that, I think it is much better than alchohol.....and anyway, do you have any hesitations smoking it at a party or out in front of a bar or anywhere for that matter...A final note here, I quit smoking pot when I met my now ex wife and kids | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 11:19:11 PM | | Tax the snot out of it so 10-14 yr olds can't afford it (as if they could afford to buy 20-25 jays a day as it is). Sell them at bars and liquor stores to keep accessability down. Use revenues to pay for enforcement. | |
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Posted: 2/4/2007 6:27:42 AM | I personaly don't think that we has a society is ready for 10 to 14 year old kids being able to purchase pot so easily, as an adult I think we can handle the effects and deal with the ongoings in our lives..I just don,t think middle school kids are ready for it, they have enough to think about, such as puberty,education, and just social life in general..........other than that, I think it is much better than alchohol.....and anyway, do you have any hesitations smoking it at a party or out in front of a bar or anywhere for that matter..
I started smoking pot when I was in middle school.I don't advocate anyone putting a mood altering substance in their body at that young of an age,but just stating it as a historical fact,that was the age group I started,it was the early 70's and it was very easy to obtain then,and it's very easy to obtain now.It's always been illegal in my life.I don't know if I am an anamoly among pot usuers or what,never done a statistical study,but I don't think it stunted my growth,did any damage to my livliehood or ability to achieve and I certainly didn't move on to harder drugs as they simply didn't interest me.The only real trouble in my life as far as damage to my family and life has been prescription meds (especially how to pay for them when you're a senior citizen and you need them just to live,eh make that exist.I wouldn't want to glorify what my parents had to exist on by calling it a living),alcohol and nicotine.The legal drugs that our government puts it's stamp of aproval on.The drugs that make the American corporate machinery rich and running.
If you're worried about what effect teens using MJ or anything else for that matter has on society,just look at present day,this is what's going on and yes,I'll agree with anyone,it has a very destructive effect on society.But this is a SOCIAL problem,not a legislative one.It's not a problem that society can arrest,convict or punish it's way out of.
Legal or illegal,moral or immoral,there will always be a demand for a buzz and a supply of substances to make it happen as well as a willing businessman to profit from that demand.Doesn't it make sense to err towards the substances that have been proven scientifically to be cause the least harm?The least addicitive? | |
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Posted: 2/4/2007 8:41:34 PM | I never understood why governments spend so much time and money on other things that are dumb yet put people in jail for smoking something that grows in the dirt? Gotta give your head a shake on stuff like that.
You see on TV (cops) and shows like that where people are thrown in jail for having a joint on them. Seems rather silly that a little weed would ruin your chances for a good education or employment in the future especially when all of the elected officials have done it in the past. I think that the police agencies make allot of money off confiscating vehicles and property from the "weed toking hard violent criminals", lol.
Allot of accidents and deaths by drunk drivers out there, not too many from weed, its kinda hard when you are only going 10 km an hour.
It will never be made legal though, I can never see it happening. It will be probably just be made into a fine or something allong those lines because some people will still think it is the devil because they are mindless followers. Thats cool though, to each their own.
Almost makes you wish that they put the question on the ballot cards when you voted. If 51% of the country thought it okay then it would be legal. They will never do this because democratic countries are not always democratic no matter who you vote for.
Its weed, it grows in the dirt.
Its a control thing plain and simple. | |
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