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 prolibertate

Joined: 9/11/2005
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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 6/17/2007 3:03:07 PM
Trailsman...where do you get anger and hate out of what I posted? It's simply my opinion...I think anyone who takes illegal, mind-altering drugs is pretty stupid...and how they act on them proves it in most cases. Also, most of the celebs mentioned *didn't* live long enough to enjoy anything - Hendrix, Joplin, and Morrison all died at 27...that's living long enough? And if you look at the ones today, I'd be surprised if many of them made it to their 30s also.

And, just to cover legal stuff, anyone who drinks to excess and gets sloppy - or worse, drives under the influence - is pretty stupid also...and being a cigarette smoker, yes, that's a pretty stupid habit I have myself.
 Trewq36

Joined: 2/9/2005
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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 6/18/2007 7:44:57 AM
OK so we can agree the world is full of stupid people.
Are we suppose to make laws for everything that stupid people may do? Should we lock you up because you didn't look both ways before crossing the street?
 Just_me_Vee

Joined: 5/30/2007
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Posted: 6/18/2007 6:58:28 PM
This may have been said (I didn't want to go through all the pages) but the issue is $$$$$....Just like prostitution and all other drug sales, it is hard for the government to regulate it...which makes it harder for the government to tax it. So if the government can't get the money...then hell...make it illegal. IMO.
 Trailsman5

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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 6/19/2007 11:25:39 PM
"Also, most of the celebs mentioned *didn't* live long enough to enjoy anything - Hendrix, Joplin, and Morrison all died at 27...that's living long enough?"

Correct, and those celebrities were into alcohol/hard drugs. Willie Nelson, a lifelong pot smoker, is no spring chicken. Either are Cheech and Chong. These guys are enjoying their twilight years long after their alcoholic/heroin addicted/coke addicted contemporaries have long passed away.

"...it is hard for the government to regulate it...which makes it harder for the government to tax it. So if the government can't get the money...then hell...make it illegal. IMO."

What is so special about marijuana that it cannot be regulated and taxed like tobacco? Make it pre-rolled and for sale by the pack. Making it illegal is just filling up jails with non-violent offenders who might otherwise be decent citizens.
 maceo420

Joined: 5/4/2006
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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 7/7/2007 2:48:51 PM
"yet" you make it sound like some day this may occur not forget about it.
 Jameslazazzera

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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 7/8/2007 12:27:52 AM
there is only one reason that it is Illegal in CANADA...because some dumb as mud redneck imperialist jerkoff, that calls himself President of the United States of America threatened major boder crackdowns and Trade tariffs (which would have ammounted to ecomonic sanctions) against us if we did. Otherwise Pot would have been de-criminalised up here 7 years ago. Pot is Less harmfull than Alcahol, dont believe the propoganda put out by the DEA, they are full of S***. Just ask any doctor that dosent have a flag up their A** and they will tell you


Oh Chevelle, in regards to your comment about invadeing Canada...check this link out!
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/washingtonsack.htm
just remember Canadians WERE British at that time!, and dont think we couldnt do it again!
 deejayehn

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Posted: 7/8/2007 12:08:58 PM
"Why is smoking pot a crime?"

Many possible reasons:

You could use it for medicinal purposes. Big pharma HATES competition.

It's an herb. The FDA has a goal to illegalize ALL herbs within a few years. Pretty scary thought there...

The gov. makes way too much money from the black market venues... watch the movie Air Americ(k)a for further proof...

The gov. doesn't want anyone to have too much fun (now I'm just clutching at straws)...

I don't even touch the stuff anymore, but I do respect it's benefits.
 namegame2

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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 7/8/2007 3:17:07 PM

Around 31% of the pop. Smokes weed on a daily basis.
Around 50% of the pop. Doesn’t care ether way if pot is legal.
Only 20% of the pop. Is keeping weed illegal.
Only 20% of the pop. Makes money off it being illegal.


LOL! Yeah, right, a third of the country smokes on a daily basis
 namegame2

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Posted: 7/8/2007 3:19:22 PM

I am not sure we would have the kinds of problems we have now, with drug privateers, if the pharmaceutical sector could manufacture our powerful, mood altering drugs for us. Why would someone go the expense of setting up a bathroom lab, if they could simply purchase some dope (i.e. powerful, mood altering drugs) at a nearby convenience store (or pharmacy)?


Great - allow big business to legally design and sell mind-altering drugs.
 TomInBlackCanyon

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Posted: 7/9/2007 11:36:11 AM
J.D. The answer can be summed up in two words - BIG PHARMA Why? Since they couldn't patent marijuana and corner the market, they saw it as a threat to their empire. So with the help of corrupt polititians they villified it. The bottom line is that the Laws making it illegal are unconstitutional. The "War On Drugs" is misdirected, not to mention a complete hoax.
 redravel

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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 7/10/2007 1:40:23 AM
It is to keep the public busy thinking about things like drugs, so we don't think about the crooks in the white house.
 redravel

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Posted: 7/10/2007 2:07:06 AM
The more attention you give to any subject, the more power you give to it. That is why The War on Terrorism, The War on Poverty, The War on Drugs. The War on Stem Cells, The War on teen pregnancy, The War on Cancer, The War on Violence, the War on This, The War on That, will never end. Any time you push against something, you create more of it. You add power to it. Human beings do not understand that if they just stopped thinking about being at war with something, THE PROBLEM WILL SIMPLY DISAPPEAR. If we know how powerful our positive thoughts are at manifesting what we are thinking, we would stop trying to fight against everything. The Universe only gives us what we think about most. I't's Universal Law, The Law Of Attraction. It works every time with NO exceptions. Mother Teresa understood this law. She said, "I will never attend an anti war rally. When you have a peace rally, invite me." The war on terrorism just creates more terrorism and The War on Drugs will always create more drugs" etc. etc. etc. Those in high power know this and keep the people living in fear. The world has taken a nightmare pill and swallowed it well!
 Trewq36

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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 7/10/2007 8:15:46 AM
Yes Redravel, it is as I pointed out in post 914.
We need to somehow wake The People from the sleep of the Leviathan, where the Good is made to seem Bad and the Bad is made to seem Good.
A war on anything or anyone only begets more war.
Actually I think this is a projection of the Big Boy's and how they got their slogan for the War on Terror, "They hate our freedom".
Seems to me it is the Big Boys that hate the freedoms of We The People.
 taurus516

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Posted: 7/10/2007 2:11:04 PM

The more attention you give to any subject, the more power you give to it. That is why The War on Terrorism, The War on Poverty, The War on Drugs. The War on Stem Cells, The War on teen pregnancy, The War on Cancer, The War on Violence, the War on This, The War on That, will never end


You might as well add GW's favorite wars,the War on Thought,the War on High IQ's,the War on the Proper Structuring of Sentences,the War on Literacy......the list goes on, and remember,somewhere in Texas, a village is missing it's idiot.
 deejayehn

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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 7/10/2007 7:09:04 PM
"It is to keep the public busy thinking about things like drugs, so we don't think about the crooks in the white house."

Fairly accurate point...
 CTR916

Joined: 11/27/2006
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Posted: 7/11/2007 9:56:47 AM

Great - allow big business to legally design and sell mind-altering drugs.


They already do, ask the mental health industry.

Don't you think it would be better if professionals were making crack (this is only an illustrative example) in laboratories and not amateurs in the bathroom?

What about THC inhalers (like asthma inhalers) that would let the user not do any lung damage while enjoying precise doses of refer madness?

Having designer recreational drugs is not necessarily the bad thing some people would have you believe. Many people are alive today due to designer non-recreational drugs.
 conor78

Joined: 5/22/2007
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Posted: 7/11/2007 10:06:26 AM
It is a stupid crime. How many crimes do you hear being committed while the suspect is under the influence of marijuana?
 namegame2

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Posted: 7/11/2007 4:45:47 PM

Don't you think it would be better if professionals were making crack (this is only an illustrative example) in laboratories and not amateurs in the bathroom?


No, not if designing mind-altering drugs was permitted. Once it was accepted regulatorily, I have no doubt you'ld begin to see drugs tailored to make you act in the way they want you to (crave Doritos, not Lays!). That, at least, is something beyond the capabilities of the guy in his bathroom.
 taurus516

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Posted: 7/12/2007 8:17:14 AM

Once it was accepted regulatorily, I have no doubt you'ld begin to see drugs tailored to make you act in the way they want you to (crave Doritos, not Lays!)


Worse than that,you would see drugs that would make people complacent to work for next to nothing at horrid hours with no benefits.I think you already see some of that with designer pharmaceuticals,such as the ones mentioned earlier.While I realize many people have benefited from antidepressants and antipsychotics, the pharmaceutical industry is profit driven like everything else and I believe we have a rather sizable population of folks who take these drugs and really don't need them.Yet they have been convinced by advertising campaigns that all of their problems can be solved with a pill.Many people could solve the majority of their problems with a lifestyle change,yet because of the society we live in that demands an instant fix to a problem,they choose a pill.
 CTR916

Joined: 11/27/2006
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Posted: 7/13/2007 10:41:28 AM
I guess, the point of my argument is, why should the government tell us what we can consume? Isn't it about individual liberty? If I were to, hypothetically, buy some powerful mood altering drugs at the local convenience store; whose decision should it be to choose which brand of powerful mood altering drugs I consume?
 superserial

Joined: 7/6/2007
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Posted: 7/13/2007 12:10:32 PM
I've smoked pot about ten times in my life (all for free, hurray) and the drug itself isn't more debilitating than alcohol and in less harmful to your body as a whole. Although pot smoking is terrible on your lungs since it is unfiltered...but cigarettes aren't much better and they are legal.

Basically what you have now is that the pot lobbyists are very weak in power where the cigarette lobbyists draw HUGE power. Think of it this way, the most powerful names in pot are the drug dealers that control whole regions and obviously are wanted men. When the richest and most powerful of an industry cannot become lobbyists because they are criminals, well that sure makes it hard for anyone to push for the USA to legalize weed.

I say legalize it, throw a huge luxury tax on it, and let those who can afford to make it a habit have at it.
 taurus516

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Posted: 7/16/2007 11:19:45 AM

. Although pot smoking is terrible on your lungs since it is unfiltered...but cigarettes aren't much better and they are legal.


Cigs are worse as the tobacco industry add all kinds of chemicals to the tobacco to increase it's ability to be addictive.There was a movie made about 60 minutes's attempt to get on the inside of the industry's work.They had a chemist who was a former employee of Phillip Morris and his job was to find and add chemicals to the product to make it more addicting.The industry put the kabash on the 60 minutes story,but it didn't stop them from making a film about it.I believe the title of the movie was "The Insider".

I've smoked pot myself for over 33 years and never had a lung problem,yet I am very allergic to cigarette smoke.I get the same symptoms and same nasty taste in my mouth and throat when I am around heavy cig smoke as I do when I cover trailer fires on my job.
 superserial

Joined: 7/6/2007
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Posted: 7/16/2007 12:12:46 PM
^^^ I watched an autopsy of a life-time weed smoker and his lungs were all black. I agree with you on the added chemicals that cigarettes have, but the trend is that cigarettes do more damage because people get more addicted to the nicotine so they smoke more cigs per day than say an avid pot smoker.
 taurus516

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Posted: 7/16/2007 1:09:35 PM
^^^^True.Cig smokers also consume more product on a daily basis.A pack and half,two or more packs a day vs. a few joints or bong hits.
 Mr. Ivan

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Posted: 7/16/2007 6:14:17 PM
I think the crime is "possession" of it not smoking it.

Lots of people smoke marijuana and the cops probably knows this, so they go after you when you're on their shiitliist. Otherwise, they don't care what you smoke. That's what I think.

It's like all those people who speed on the highway because they think they can. But cops can be asholess and stop you for going 60 mph in a 55 mph speed zone. I think they have that right.

Sorry but I just had to call them that.

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