| How do Americans see America vs. Europe
Posted: 12/14/2004 3:21:39 PM | Why do people of the US think that the rest of the world (there is a rest, didn't you know?) hardly can feel any admiration for a country that elected a warmonger for president.
Either you wanted it like this, or you have been fooled (again) while the whole world is watching you. | |
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| Why Canada hates USA...
Posted: 12/16/2004 10:07:55 AM | I will listen to reason, I will listen to truth but verbal abracadabra is where you fail.
We do not take that in Canada! If we do not understand we ask questions.
Always Polite about it.
Grandfater Bush had ties with some people (look it up) ~ what ever long time ago his steel built, yes built our North American way. The largest bankruptcy in history has connections with your Pres. All the way down people made billions shorting. WHO? Find out. The Laddin fam. got flown out Sept. 11. WHY? Why don't you ask these questions.
Let me tell you something, when a magician is flying his right hand all over with that magical wiggle watch his left go into your pocket.
I do not want to upset just inform. Hey, I guess it may be in the best interest of our N.A. way of life as well. It just bothers me when people follow without all the facts. Mostly the holy ones that preach peace while proud to be at war. You know the type. Southern racists some of them. | |
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| Why Canada hates USA...
Posted: 12/16/2004 11:07:08 AM |
Either you wanted it like this, or you have been fooled (again) while the whole world is watching you.
Or our President is right and we're all just waiting for you to catch up.... | |
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| Why Canada hates USA...
Posted: 12/16/2004 11:44:34 AM | Please open your eyes, go back some seventy years ago and look what happened in Germany.
Look it up: Der Reichstag set on fire
Look it up: leader got elected
Look it up: All the blame on one people.
Look it up: Single sighted people, believing their leader without any proof.
Look it up, please look it up.
Don't think it won't happen to you.
Don't think you're any smarter than the average German.
And never, never say afterwards "we didn't know", for you laughed at my warnings.
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| Canada loves the US
Posted: 12/16/2004 11:47:03 AM | Bush compared to Hitler?
That is just hysterical.... | |
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| Canada loves the US
Posted: 12/16/2004 12:21:36 PM | | I guess it must be the number of Jews Bush killed right? Or maybe it is the concentration camps Bush set up to exterminate all the innocent people with. Yes, I'm sure you're right. Bush and Hitler are not much different.... | |
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| Canada misunderstands the US common people.
Posted: 12/16/2004 12:57:13 PM | Another trick from the art of war. If you want people to disbelieve it must be
unbelievable.
Slave trading, race war, Nazi ties no way you say? Dig just a little deeper
you may be shocked. Start with great grandfather B. Try to find the Corporate ties with
the companies that rule the world past and present. Enron, Dynetek, even IBM just dig a bit do not be fooled. You will hear 'conspiricy theory' its all hogwash etc. Listen up Many innocent people have been killed over money.
You must understand you are a cog, a slave in the system a nothing. You go to work, pay taxes vote all the while led to vote for one of two choices, told what to buy what to drive, even what to think.
The big companies hide there cash in offshore accounts side deals everywhere, hundred of billions untaxed by whom? Not the slaves of the system.
Of course I do not know the absolute truth and this is just an opinion! It is enough for me a free man to question the 'front'
Think, thats all we Canadians ask. | |
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| Canada misunderstands the US common people.
Posted: 12/16/2004 1:18:48 PM |
Think, thats all we Canadians ask.
We do think, that is why the vast majority of Americans re-elected President Bush to four more years in the White House.. | |
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| Canada misunderstands the US common people.
Posted: 12/16/2004 1:37:43 PM | When it all comes tumbling down after some nice Canadian told you you may be wrong
what are you going to do? If I can 'prove' ''evil doings'' by your pres. will you step back?
Why did they let Bin Ladins fam. out? WHY??? Answer that. Where did the money for grandfather Bush's business come from? (The steel) answer that. Haliburton is profiting from this war?? Is that ethical?
Look up the iron triangle on google, try to understand it.
Do these things then write back.
Just information, and IMO! | |
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| Canada misunderstands the US common people.
Posted: 12/16/2004 1:51:44 PM |
When it all comes tumbling down after some nice Canadian told you you may be wrong
what are you going to do?
When it doesn't all come tumbling down and we turn out to be right what are YOU going to say? | |
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| Canada misunderstands the US common people.
Posted: 12/16/2004 2:31:19 PM | We, as Canadians, would likely say oops, sorry, made a mistake. Not hide behind whatever we could find to cover our error.
If anyone believes everything their governments hands them, they are dead wrong from the start.
Third Worlds? In both Canada and the USA, just look at your poor and homeless. They live in a third, even fourth world. What have YOU done lately to make life better for them?
Bring us your tired, poor and hungry (not sure how it goes) so you can what. Beat them down, belittle them. I guess whatever makes the middle and upper classes feel more middle and upper, eh?
What about your sick with no insurance?
We are no better to our poor, but at least (for now) we still have decent health care for all.
I am a socialist and humanist. I believe we are ALL equal and deserve to have a roof, food, medical and dental care and the ability to live our lives in peace.
And yeah, Watchman, even if you happen to be gay. From that other thread, the right you are denying them most is the right to be free.
Land of the free my **S! Only free if they think like thee. | |
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| Canada misunderstands the US common people.
Posted: 12/16/2004 2:47:19 PM |
I am a socialist and humanist. I believe we are ALL equal and deserve to have a roof, food, medical and dental care and the ability to live our lives in peace.
So you believe that it is the right of the lazy and worthless to get a free ride from the hardworking and honest?
Fortunately for America we believe free enterprise and opportunity to succeed is much better than socialism/communism. | |
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| Free Ride....
Posted: 12/16/2004 3:00:36 PM | Ya, I do not like the free ride either...I do not know anymore... Possibly I just want a
bigger piece of the pie!? Not fair the Nazi **stard Yanks get it all. lol
Hey anyone like large breasts? I do. (small ones to)
I hate titles Socialist, Communist, Unitarian, Poligamist what ever...just words.
Canada's health care rules! | |
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| Canada misunderstands the US common people.
Posted: 12/16/2004 3:08:53 PM | I have nothing against working hard and making good coin. Nor do have have anything against giving that to help others. It is the narrowminded that think all poor people are lazy.
We are all equal! Well....maybe not you. Unfortunately there are some that think they are so much better than others. If you are ever in an accident and need help getting by, I hope another you is around to kick you in the gut and call you lazy. | |
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| Free Ride....
Posted: 12/16/2004 3:16:36 PM | Attachedm;
I agree whole heartedly with the titles/labels thing. If it were not for that we would be a much happier world. In Ireland Catholics hate Protestants and vise-vera. In the states Republicans hate Democrats. Give someone a title good or bad and it gives another cause to hate. I say socialist because it sounds so much better than bleeding heart liberal. *S*
I want a bigger piece of the pie too. So I expended my business and make more.
I remember once when I was working for Canada Post. It was what, '88 when they went on strike. It was all about money, of course. While out for drinks I with a large group I said I would be more than happy to give up a dollar an hour so others could be hired. One higher up supervisor said: "Canada Post is not in the job making business." From then on I have been in the job making business. Even if it just to hire someone for a bit of clean-up or something. If I can, I will. We should ALL be in the job making business!!!! | |
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| Free Ride....
Posted: 12/16/2004 4:56:40 PM | I know that if I had to live in a quite warm, 'free' market-driven country, with the right to own guns, poor quality media, tonned of available consumer product, cheap fatty food, big gas guzzling cars and a multitude of distractive glitzy entertainment to keep me numb...but having to live next to some crazy, xenophobic, gun-toting nazi or live in a slightly cold country with bears and mouses ravashing my bins, I would prefer the latter.
Sorry watchman you may THINK that you are a good agent or abbassador for your hollow, shabby, fragmented country but actually you do no more that confirm all of out fears that the lowest common denominator of the US mentality is ignorant, bullying and daft. | |
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| America vs Europe
Posted: 12/17/2004 6:42:52 PM | Any more arguments from the USA?
I still got a few thoughts to ventilate.
Besides:
How is it that people from USA are called Americans, as far as I know, Canadians, Eskimos, Mexicans, Brazilians, Argentins....all live on the continents called America and therefor are Americans too.
Not to offend anyone, I just wondered.
Oh, just before you start debating my Canadian friends again, Watchman, I am European. And worried!
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Joined: 12/3/2004
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| America vs Europe
Posted: 12/17/2004 6:58:35 PM |
How is it that people from USA are called Americans, as far as I know, Canadians, Eskimos, Mexicans, Brazilians, Argentins....all live on the continents called America and therefor are Americans too.
that's an interesting point, as I get the impression that it is not that many US people identify with the rich cultural diversity of the American continent...it feels more like ethnocentricity causes people to forget about the existence of the rest of the US continent. It could be like someone in France describing Europe as France basically. Rather grandiose, and perhaps wishful thinking. But of course there are agent in the US who are keen to make latin america their own...CIA destabilising countries south of the US in order to gain leverage over those cultures.
If what I saw of US citiezens in Mexico, many people from the US regard Mexico as a cheap US play park as it is. Maybe Guatamala too?
What also interests me though is the trent toward hispanics gaining ground in parts of the US. Maybe, rather than the US taking Mexico and central america, those places will take over california and florida?
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| America vs Europe
Posted: 12/17/2004 7:02:49 PM | Oh, just before you start debating my Canadian friends again, Watchman, I am European. And worried!
If I lived in Europe I'd be worried too, but not about America. You have a whole slew of issues over there that are wreaking havoc. I've always thought it was better to clean up your own yard before you start looking to point out the flaws in someone else's... | |
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Joined: 12/3/2004
Msg: 47 | |
| America vs Europe
Posted: 12/17/2004 7:17:00 PM | Again Watchman you put you finger on the issue, without really noticing it.
I've always thought it was better to clean up your own yard before you start looking to point out the flaws in someone else's
there are not separate yards or countires any more, if ever there was. Whether we like it or not we live in a globalised world. People, ideas, technolgies, philosophies, beliefs, wars, disease, climate change etc effect us all. Just as you think it is acceptable to have people go and fight in Iraq because that situation affects the place you love and feel secure in, it is reasonable for people to be concerned by and want to influence political descisions that affect them and those they love....whether they live in the US or not.
One way of looking at this - maybe a way you won't like - is this:
all the culture in the world are trying to enjoy a hot day in a communal waterpark...but this really, really, really, really bloated fat guy with little awarenss of or concern for others keeps stumbling all over the place knocking kids over, and jumping in the water hitting people and splashing everyone - when he is not rushing around stealing peoples drinks and vomitting in the toddlers pool. Because of that one person and his lack of self-awareness, lots of people are having their day spoilt. Some of the more impetous kids want to beat him up, others try to hold them back...his wife and kids are terribly embarassed but he is a chauvanist and won't stop till he drowns, sleeps or someone can snap him out of his dozy state. He is what you are trying defend. He is how the US has become.
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| America vs Europe
Posted: 12/18/2004 5:16:01 AM | | And talking some sane into the man didn't help......so far. | |
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| Canada loves the US
Posted: 12/18/2004 5:23:28 AM | Bush: Is another Hitler. The US just won't view the evil that is done in the same light as many of the people that have been directly affected. Hitler was allowed alot of freedom til he was overturned. We seem to be going in that direction with Bush.
Many of the countries that once supported us are not now. We act like they are the ones wrong for standing against a necessary evil. | |
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