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| | Why Women Hate Men ??????Page 3 of 10 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) | | jeanc Hey, I don't know about you but that whole biological programming bunk I personally don't buy. Unless it's a lower animal it's NOT instinctual or programming for a man to have to sow his seed everytime he gets a lump in his shorts. That's what men supposed have the BIG brain for, to think and rationalize and make decisions with. These men who talk about sowing their seed takes them one step closer to the wild animal kingdom. Humans are supposed to be above that aren't they? Oh and women have brains too that we don't have to "submit" what an outdated and outmoded thought or idea. Some people were apparently born out of their time, this is NOT caveman days...UGH! | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 3:39:53 PM | "jeanc Hey, I don't know about you but that whole biological programming bunk I personally don't buy. Unless it's a lower animal it's NOT instinctual or programming for a man to have to sow his seed everytime he gets a lump in his shorts. That's what men supposed have the BIG brain for, to think and rationalize and make decisions with. These men who talk about sowing their seed takes them one step closer to the wild animal kingdom. Humans are supposed to be above that aren't they? Oh and women have brains too that we don't have to "submit" what an outdated and outmoded thought or idea. Some people were apparently born out of their time, this is NOT caveman days...UGH!"
Amen, girlfriend! That's exactly the point I've been trying to make. (Lump in his shorts? LOL...good one!) Yes, the whole "seed sowing" bullcrap is just a convenient excuse for them to excuse their inaccountability for their actions. | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:01:26 PM | jeanc200358 you come across as one very angry frustrated woman, you are hostile and mean spirited in your posts towards others on this subject, maybe you should seek some kinda help for this... 
cheers M.O.    | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:05:38 PM | lumpy I've followed a lot of jeans' posts and she is anything but. She IS an outspoken and cut out the bulldoodoo type of woman. Her words are direct and to the point with no room for "reading between the lines". Why is someone angry for posting a clear, concise opinion or viewpoint? That's the point of being here isn't it?
OT: Some women hate men, some women hate some men. As far as hatred of men being a female trait, I don't see it in the women that I know. | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:44:23 PM | | A lot of the men on this site declare a woman to be a man-hater or bitter or emasculating or to need therapy if she expresses an opinion different than their own. God forbid women should have minds and an ability to express themselves honestly! | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:53:35 PM | lumpy I've followed a lot of jeans' posts and she is anything but. She IS an outspoken and cut out the bulldoodoo type of woman. Her words are direct and to the point with no room for "reading between the lines". Why is someone angry for posting a clear, concise opinion or viewpoint? That's the point of being here isn't it?
OT: Some women hate men, some women hate some men. As far as hatred of men being a female trait, I don't see it in the women that I know.
Thank you very much Buscgirl and who the fox for your support, but go ahead and let lumpy and other like men to have their say. It lets me know which men to steer far, far away from. There are, fortunately, men who do NOT think the way that they do. There are men who view women as intelligent, creative beings who have something to contribute to society besides cooking their "man" dinner and fetching him a beer. | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 8:05:26 PM | bucsgirl she may be, or has been on other subjects but here she seems to be personalizing her views. She is not just posting clear, concise opinions or viewpoints, here she has personally attacked me, and this other fellow, this subject seems near and dear to her heart maybe as it is she that does feel this way. I have had my share of negative experiences with women, but I don't hate any of them, there are many reasons for someone to hate another if thats the way you choose to be, and thats what it is a choice.
My opinion.
cheers M.O. | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 8:27:58 PM | | Seems like you only have to read these women's profiles to get your question answered. I've been out of the loop for awhile and thought I'd sign up and have a look around and boy was I surprised. The fems start their profile with all the things they don't want! How negative and unattractive. Then they proceed to tell you what they're not going to take from a suitor. Boy, that encourages someone to reach out and take a chance. If, by chance you do go for it, well, the results are as unpredictable as are, frankly, the women on thse pages. I know I'm a perfectly okay person yet I've never been so insulted by another person in my life as I have by some of the fems on POF. You can't winh for lose with these crazy women. You're too this, that or the other. That is if they'll even bother to give you a reply. I've met some disfunctional fems in my time but I had no idea they had all come to POD. Must be some sort of new Cosmo self therapy thing, bashing me. Who needs it. A woman would do damn well to have me. The difference between me and these women is that I don't needsomeone in my life to hang my self worth on. Nuff said. Sorry I got a bit winded. I simply have no patients for assh*les. | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 8:47:56 PM | and trvlingman wins the prize for
people like to screw other people around
There is a lot of playground level behaviour on this site from both sexes. | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 9:15:05 PM | "bucsgirl she may be, or has been on other subjects but here she seems to be personalizing her views. She is not just posting clear, concise opinions or viewpoints, here she has personally attacked me, and this other fellow, this subject seems near and dear to her heart maybe as it is she that does feel this way. I have had my share of negative experiences with women, but I don't hate any of them, there are many reasons for someone to hate another if thats the way you choose to be, and thats what it is a choice.
My opinion."
Isn't "personalizing" what everyone does when giving THEIR OPINION? It's MY opinion, not yours. What do you find so confusing about my point of view? Also, I did NOT initiate an attack; I reacted to your and the other fellow's misogynistic view of women. If that seems harsh to you, I'm sorry, but I refuse to be looked upon as a person whose lot in life is to play a role of subserviance to you or to any other man. The subject is somewhat "near and dear" to my heart, I guess, in the sense that, if some less-than-enlightened man is going to make such patently absurd assumptions that women should still remain barefoot and pregnant and stay home and keep house and take care of the children, well, I'm going to speak out against that. This angers you because you think I don't have a voice. I mean, how DARE I speak out against you, right? It infuriates you that you can't "put me in my place," doesn't it?
And, just for an FYI, I don't hate men at all. In fact, I love them. What I DO hate, however, is men who have attitudes like you do. You know, in all the time I've ever been on dating sites, not once have I ever gotten an email that stated, "I want to be your husband, your lover and your protector, to go out and hunt and gather food (earn a living and put food on the table) and care for you and love you like a husband should, forsaking all others...." yada yada...but I sure have gotten plenty of "Hey, nice tits" mail or even from those who seemed halfassed serious about wanting a relationship, they asked how much money I made or stated they would NEVER consider having a woman at home who didn't earn a living and contribute to the household expenses.
Moreover, I also get a fair amount of mail (though much less frequently) from men who are intelligent and who can carry on a conversation and who compliment me on my intelligence and the ability to do the same without indicating that they are the least bit intimidated by that. Any REAL man would not be. He realizes that he can let me grow and fluorish and use my talents and intellect to the best of my abilities without thinking it somehow emasculates him or is insulting to him or a detriment to his manhood.
A real man supports his woman in any endeavor she is interested in (within reason). He doesn't have to forfeit any part of himself being a man just because his wife/girlfriend has more brains than to just sit around the house all day eating bon-bons and watching soaps.
Besides, I do all of the regular household duties, inside and out, anyway, but I expect an equitable split of the chores in that regard also. No role assignment there, either.
Not to worry, though. There are still women left who think it is their lot in life to "serve their man." So maybe you'll be able to find someone who will suit you just fine. | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 10:27:07 PM | | I don't hate men.... but what my past men did to me was horrible.... and they are all I know of men.... | |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 10:52:02 PM | Posted By: jeanc200358 on 8/22/2005 9 05 PM
Subject: Why Women Hate Men ??????
Message: "bucsgirl she may be, or has been on other subjects but here she seems to be personalizing her views. She is not just posting clear, concise opinions or viewpoints, here she has personally attacked me, and this other fellow, this subject seems near and dear to her heart maybe as it is she that does feel this way. I have had my share of negative experiences with women, but I don't hate any of them, there are many reasons for someone to hate another if thats the way you choose to be, and thats what it is a choice.
My opinion."
Isn't "personalizing" what everyone does when giving THEIR OPINION? It's MY opinion, not yours. What do you find so confusing about my point of view? Also, I did NOT initiate an attack; I reacted to your and the other fellow's misogynistic view of women. If that seems harsh to you, I'm sorry, but I refuse to be looked upon as a person whose lot in life is to play a role of subserviance to you or to any other man. The subject is somewhat "near and dear" to my heart, I guess, in the sense that, if some less-than-enlightened man is going to make such patently absurd assumptions that women should still remain barefoot and pregnant and stay home and keep house and take care of the children, well, I'm going to speak out against that. This angers you because you think I don't have a voice. I mean, how DARE I speak out against you, right? It infuriates you that you can't "put me in my place," doesn't it?
And, just for an FYI, I don't hate men at all. In fact, I love them. What I DO hate, however, is men who have attitudes like you do. You know, in all the time I've ever been on dating sites, not once have I ever gotten an email that stated, "I want to be your husband, your lover and your protector, to go out and hunt and gather food (earn a living and put food on the table) and care for you and love you like a husband should, forsaking all others...." yada yada...but I sure have gotten plenty of "Hey, nice tits" mail or even from those who seemed halfassed serious about wanting a relationship, they asked how much money I made or stated they would NEVER consider having a woman at home who didn't earn a living and contribute to the household expenses.
Moreover, I also get a fair amount of mail (though much less frequently) from men who are intelligent and who can carry on a conversation and who compliment me on my intelligence and the ability to do the same without indicating that they are the least bit intimidated by that. Any REAL man would not be. He realizes that he can let me grow and fluorish and use my talents and intellect to the best of my abilities without thinking it somehow emasculates him or is insulting to him or a detriment to his manhood.
A real man supports his woman in any endeavor she is interested in (within reason). He doesn't have to forfeit any part of himself being a man just because his wife/girlfriend has more brains than to just sit around the house all day eating bon-bons and watching soaps.
Besides, I do all of the regular household duties, inside and out, anyway, but I expect an equitable split of the chores in that regard also. No role assignment there, either.
Not to worry, though. There are still women left who think it is their lot in life to "serve their man." So maybe you'll be able to find someone who will suit you just fine
Dam you sure got alot to say, maybe you should try and lighten up... | |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 3:49:17 AM | Funny....all this months at the forums and not a single lady bashed me......
makes me question do men hate other men............
Im on 20 plus persons favorites.....only 1 man.............................
yep they must have added me because Im their pet hate.......
Let the misandrists and misogynists slug it out.......the rest of you good citizens carry on. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 4:18:42 AM | Carribeanking7!!!!
OMG! I can not beleive how many people have me on there favs list!
Does not mean a thing to me ! Hells bells! I dont know most of them!!!
You however, youre on MY FAVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Youre not my Online hubby(lol) youre not my freakish Fantasy!
Youre a true person who , I can toss anything too! LOL
Catch this LOVE!
OH YEA! ON TOPIC! I dont hate all men! I love real men! I just hate the men who thought, they could take CONTROL & TRY to make me live by His SO CALLED RULES!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL! Tell me I can not do something????????
Watch me do it twice ! Right in front of your face!
Live by your Daddy's rule," woman you better have dinner ready or, you better be home with a pay check for me to cash"
" I everything in this house"
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These are just a few reasons why SOME of us hate men!
guess what!
Not this gal!
I love any man that can HANDLE AN INDEPENDANT WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you tell me I cant do something, I will show you I can two or three times!
If you cant Handle that, Bye bye
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Posted: 8/23/2005 4:23:12 AM | "Dam you sure got alot to say, maybe you should try and lighten up..."
What's a matter, sweetie? Having trouble with the big words? | |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 6:20:14 AM | | It took only 3 pages for one womans posts to polarize the men and women. I do not know if her intention is by design or real, none the less the effect remains the same. I ask not that you just take my word for this, I encourage each of you to go back read, and follow the folly. The question that needs to be asked is .... Does this forum represent a microcosm of the real world? If not, has it been all fun and games? If so what does it say about the state of relationships between men and women? Does it, or does it not illustrate our inability to communicate without bashing each other? Can all of this be translated into what is happening between men and women in the real world? I will let you be the judge. I rest my case. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 6:21:14 AM | | ozman Well it depends on what kind of women's profiles you're looking for? Any in your age group, I have many 40 something lady buddies here and their profiles are delightful. It's the younger ones as a GROUP, so it's a generalization, that seem to be edgier. If you're looking at the 20 to 25 y/o's then YEAH, but if you're looking in the 40 some group, they're a lot different. It depends on the age group you're targeting, so making it sound like it's ALL the women on POF...that's just WRONG. It's only the women YOU'VE looked at, and I'd bet to say that's a relatively SMALL sample of the 1/2 a million total members here, 2/3 of which are male, unless you've been REALLY REALLY busy!!! | |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 6:46:59 AM | | I don't think women hate men; I think they see us as a disposable commodity, something that can be traded up for at a moment's notice, without fear of repercussion. On the whole, women can get laid a WHOLE lot easier than men, and play that fact to their advantage. Also, they set standards for themselves (which is quite OK) and reserve the right to reject any and all suitors that don't measure up. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 8:03:05 AM | "It took only 3 pages for one womans posts to polarize the men and women. I do not know if her intention is by design or real, none the less the effect remains the same. I ask not that you just take my word for this, I encourage each of you to go back read, and follow the folly. The question that needs to be asked is .... Does this forum represent a microcosm of the real world? If not, has it been all fun and games?
Oh, puleeezzzzzz. Spare me. Oh, what a remarkable person I must be to create such havoc. LOL. I encourage you to go back and read (this time with comprehension and without jumping to colossal conclusions) just what it is I'm saying in my posts. Certainly you cannot be that dense. Or can you?
"If so what does it say about the state of relationships between men and women? Does it, or does it not illustrate our inability to communicate without bashing each other? Can all of this be translated into what is happening between men and women in the real world? I will let you be the judge. I rest my case."
This says nothing at all about the state of relationships between men and women, as far as I am concerned. What is says is that I don't AGREE with your misogynistic view of women -- no more, and no less. (Or anyone else who happens to think the way you do). Most men are secure with their masculinity and are not threatened by an intelligent, successful woman. You, obviously, are not one of those men. You seem to view women as merchandise or something to be used for your benefit, rather than as PEOPLE.
I personally do not see anything at all wrong with a woman who WANTS to stay home and keep house and take care of the children; HOWEVER, that's only if that's the path SHE has chosen for herself.
You seem very intimidated by successful, intelligent women and I'm really curious as to why that is. Why do you see that as emasculating you? Reminds me of my younger sister's ex husband ...when she started making more money than he did, know what he did? He started drinking heavily and beating her up on a regular basis, because he "couldn't handle it." He felt less of a man because she made more money than he did!!! How ridiculous can you get?
So, do you somehow feel threatened that if a woman asserts her ability to be independent that she might leave you? That she might be better at something than you are? Smarter? Stronger, even, at some things?
Any real man, particularly in this day and age, would encourage the woman in his life to be everything she can be, and to be happy with whatever she chooses to do. He should not expect her to be his servant. He should not play the role of her "father," but one of her HUSBAND, who should be a partner, NOT a dictator.
Now, what's so hard to understand and accept about that? | |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 8:09:53 AM | "I don't think women hate men; I think they see us as a disposable commodity...
Speaking strictly for myself, that's absolutely UNTRUE. In fact, that's how I view and have been treated by most men. Most of the men I've dated/had relationships with wouldn't know a good woman if he saw one. I hear this from a lot of women, too. So many men think of women as a pair of boobs, what's between their legs, a pretty face and someone who can scrub their toilets, fetch their beer and cook their meals...(not all, of course)...but it is those men who need to wake up and smell the coffee and stop shaking their heads later on, wondering, "Gee, I wonder why she left me." Well, duh?
...something that can be traded up for at a moment's notice, without fear of repercussion."
Don't figure people should be traded at a moment's notice, but, of course there should be no fear of repercussion. A woman does have the right to leave a man, for any reason she wants to. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 8:11:55 AM | Hi there
Here is my 2 cents worth (Canadian)!! I don't hate anyone, because hate is a deadly word in my vocabulary. When you hate someone you end up being bitter and angry. I was an abused woman and I learned to forgive my abuser and that is the key. Relationships end for whatever reason and I think if you can move on and not be bitter but learn from what happened and grow from it you will be much happier. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2005 8:14:10 AM | Can't we all just get along? :-)~
I definately, don't hate men! Hmmm can't live with'em can't live with out'em!
Just kidding!
Ya'll are getting carried away with the bashing.
Isn't it odd how when we meet someone we get all nervous...wondering will they like me.. what will they think about me.. instead of thinking.. what if I don't like them? When we hit it off and really dig eachother.. then all of the sudden we're out of like? How does that happen?
How did that saying.. there's a thin line between love and hate?
I'm actually still friends with most of my ex's.. I'm definately not a man basher... and definately not into men that are bitter about women! | |
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