| | Dating Out Side YOUR RACEPage 3 of 8 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) | Is the true question here.."Would you date outside your race"...or "Would you date someone black"...lol...I have to laugh how a simple question can be taken out of content.
I started reading the posts and felt really good...that there is so much love and compassion for all..race not being an issue.
For me, there is only one race, and we all have red blood.
And I am almost sure none of us,travel outside the milky way for a date.
Dating is something you chose to do...it is not forced on anyone..it is like ice cream you might like chocolate ,you might like vanilla..and some like strawberry..(haha).
But getting back on track, the true measure of a person is not there skin color, it is the person inside.
You chose to accept that person is entirely up to you...but if you do chose to accept that person watch out,be very careful you might find out, we are all the same. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2005 4:24:33 PM | Cougar99'
It has been taken out of context. it wasnt for just black & whites mix races it was meant for ALL races included.
The question is would you date out side your race. Whether it is blacks,, Chines,, India ppl Anmerican Indians or any other race. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2005 5:31:55 PM | Your right it is a question of dating out of your race.....but lets be honest...if someone walks up to you and asks if you would date out pof your race....what is the first race you would think of?...
Read the last line of my post....you will see, I care for everyone doesn't matter what race, or religion that stuff doesn't bother me, I am a bigger person than that with a heart bigger than that.
Any man be it white,black,yellow,red..he is my brother. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2005 6:25:24 PM | | Dating outside your race? I don't have a problem with that. Now, dating outside your species is really frowned upon. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2005 8:31:49 PM |
Now, dating outside your species is really frowned upon.
Well, I think thats ONLY true in MOST states. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2005 10:21:56 PM | Hmmm...
WELL LET ME ASK YOU ALL THIS
- Is there anything wrong with people who want to only date/breed inside their own race?
MarathonMan - I disagree with your fallacies. Race is NOT a social construct, instead it is people like you who are on a mission to SOCIALLY DESTRUCT RACE that are the ones spreading myth. We are different lineages of the HUMAN SPECIES, get over it already! | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 10:29:01 AM | Huh?
On a mission to socially destruct race?
Race may not be a social construct- but the point is that said construct is being used as a rational to justify racism. Preference is one thing- but to be "exclusive" on the basis of race alone is ignorant.
If someone has a preference for their own race- hey- that's fine. But the statement "I just don't date (insert race) people" or other such drivel is indicative of a closed mind. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 11:50:15 AM | It's all about personal preference... I prefer to date men of the human race, I must admit.
Everyone is entitled to date whomever they choose, as long as the choice is mutual, of course. I don't understand what the big deal is... I guess, as long as people continue making it a big deal, it will be... live and let live... cliché, but true. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:36:22 PM | | Now that ^^ I WILL agree with. Culture is a LOT bigger issue than race!!! | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:44:09 PM | i will have to agree with that too..
My sister fell in love with a guy who came from lebonon, (he had moved to Canada). They planned to get married, and had dated for 2 years. His mother came over and told him that he cannot marry that white trash (her exact words) unless she gave up her religion, family and they both moved back to lebonon with her. She was crushed when he siad he couldn't go against his mother. It took her 9 years to get over that - but thankfully she found her now husband, who treats her with much respect and loves her to death.
Culture definately can get in the middle of a relationship - esepcially when the parents become involved.
He eventually moved back on his mothers wishes, and had an arranged marriage. No one has heard from him since.
So yes, culture can become a huge issue. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:51:27 PM | I don't have a problem with people dating outside their race. I mean, we are all humans here the only thing the splits us apart from one another is our skin color which is the result of what part of the world your genetic background is from. People in warm or hot climates genticly have darker skin then people in colder climates have lighter skin. Are bones are all white on the inside. :)
But culture diff can play a role as well which is why i'm more inclined to date my own race then any other race. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 11:23:25 PM | yep - without skin we look pretty much all the same - but culture clashes can hurt.
Heck i had problems with an ex's mother - she couldn't get over the fact I wasn't catholic. Funny thing is - while her own daughter did drugs, slept around, partied, ended up in jail - i wasn't good enough for the family cause I wasn't baptized a catholic! Funny thing is if he would have told his mom the truth my real faith - i think she would have sent a posse out after me lol | |
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Posted: 8/29/2005 8:44:13 AM | | Race should not be an issue. Love is the issue and love has no color. I prefer Hispanic women. In my opinion they are awesome. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2005 8:54:57 AM | | At this point and time, I don't realy care if the girl I date, is an alien from outer space ;) | |
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Posted: 8/29/2005 10:35:37 AM | This has was a good and fruitful discussion until someone of a negative midset decided to disagree by making a personal attack without basis nor factual support:
MarathonMan - I disagree with your fallacies. Race is NOT a social construct, instead it is people like you who are on a mission to SOCIALLY DESTRUCT RACE that are the ones spreading myth. We are different lineages of the HUMAN SPECIES, get over it already!
There is NOTHING for me to get over My arguments are factually based,logical and sound.YOU however ASSume and prognosticate that I" and people "like" me" are on a mission Who and WHAT are "people like me?" Why would you make a discussion personal instead of simply stating what you disagreed with and WHY?
Here are a few things to support my statements:
"Race is a social construct, not a scientific classification."-ROBERT S. SCHWARTZ , M.D.
"Race is therefore an unscientific social construct; that is, the concept of race is created from prevailing social perceptions and is without scientific foundation."-Ritchie Witzig MD,MPH Annals of Internal Medicine.
"Early in the 19th century the growing fields of science began to reflect the public consciousness about human differences. Differences among the "racial" categories were projected to their greatest extreme when the argument was posed that Africans, Indians, and Europeans were separate species, with Africans the least human and closer taxonomically to apes.
Ultimately "race" as an ideology about human differences was subsequently spread to other areas of the world. It became a strategy for dividing, ranking, and controlling colonized people used by colonial powers everywhere. But it was not limited to the colonial situation. In the latter part of the 19th century it was employed by Europeans to rank one another and to justify social, economic, and political inequalities among their peoples"-American Anthropoloical Association's statement on race.
"It is important to note that race is predominantly a social construct" -from Race - Definitions of Key Race Relations Terms,Susan Pizarro-Eckart MS
This is from PBS's Race the Power of Illuison-. Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies, like the Greeks, did not divide people according to physical distinctions, but according to religion, status, class, even language. The English language didn't even have the word 'race' until it turns up in a 1508 poem by William Dunbar referring to a line of kings.
2. Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait or even gene distinguishes all the members of one so-called race from all the members of another so-called race. "
3.Human subspecies don't exist. Unlike many animals, modern humans simply haven'tbeen around long enough or isolated enough to evolve into separate subspecies or races. Despite surface appearances, we are one of the most genetically similar of all species.
4. Skin color really is only skin deep. Most traits are inherited independently from one another. The genes influencing skin color have nothing to do with the genes influencing hair form, eye shape, blood type, musical talent, athletic ability or forms of intelligence. Knowing someone's skin color doesn't necessarily tell you anything else about him or her.
5. Most variation is within, not between, "races." Of the small amount of total human variation, 85% exists within any local population, be they Italians, Kurds, Koreans or Cherokees. About 94% can be found within any continent. That means two random Koreans may be as genetically different as a Korean and an Italian.
6. Slavery predates race. Throughout much of human history, societies have enslaved others, often as a result of conquest or war, even debt, but not because of physical characteristics or a belief in natural inferiority. Due to a unique set of historical circumstances, ours was the first slave system where all the slaves shared similar physical characteristics.
7. Race and freedom evolved together. The U.S. was founded on the radical new principle that "All men are created equal." But our early economy was based largely on slavery. How could this anomaly be rationalized? The new idea of race helped explain why some people could be denied the rights and freedoms that others took for granted.
8. Race justified social inequalities as natural. As the race idea evolved, white superiority became "common sense" in America. It justified not only slavery but also the extermination of Indians, exclusion of Asian immigrants, and the taking of Mexican lands by a nation that professed a belief in democracy. Racial practices were institutionalized within American government, laws, and society.
9. Race isn't biological, but racism is still real. Race is a powerful social idea that gives people different access to opportunities and resources. Our government and social institutions have created advantages that disproportionately channel wealth, power, and resources to white people. This affects everyone, whether we are aware of it or not.
10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn't exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others.
-----------------------------------------I'll rest my case.
It is NOT, nor has it been my argument that there are no differences between groups. Simply that the concept of race and the system of racial classification currently used is of more social construct than scientific,and as such IS and ALWAYS has been largely BASED upon/reflective of RACISM. This is historically ACCURATE and genetically proven as well as agreed by the overwelming majority of geneticist and many if not most Anthropological scientist. Because for many the concept has been so entrenched in societies as a result of western imperealism/racism from birth,many find it difficult to understand and recieve the fact of its HOAX.
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Posted: 8/29/2005 11:52:46 AM | Marathon.
The more you write, the more you expose yourself as being exactly what you profess to detest in others.
Race has 'no' genetic basis, nor difference? " Not one gene?" Hmmm, how then would one explain sickle cell enemea only being contracted by mostly blacks? Must be something in the DNA that is a tad different than whites and other races. If only blacks contract the majority of sickle cell, then there would have to be a difference between their biological makeup and the Imperialist white American male.
Merely a 'social construct', than any basis in fact? Don't think so. Figures lie, and liars figure. If one had the time , one could come up with just as many people with initials behind their names to dispute your claims. Thankfully, I have better things to do. These revelations in physical makeup do not make one inferior, nor superior, in the least. However, I sometimes wonder how the African nations with as much, or more, natural resources as the rest of the world has had--- have done absolutely nothing with them over thousands of years. With your vast knowledge you've displayed here, please do explain this to an Imperialist white American male. Naturally, since I'm an Imperialistic white American male, I'm going to be labeled a racist. No matter my personal feelings, I'm a part of 'de man's ' establishment, so I deal with it.
The Chinese, Japanese and Middle Eastern people of old developed similiar machines, wheels, recorded history, ect. at around the same time---abet hundreds of years apart. Europeans derived from there, and a few other places as well. There has been thousands of years of development between them, to where we are today.
The African continent has had the same opportunities to develop. Same, if not more natural resources as the others. So geography is not the issue here. The white man is/was a relatively new development in their history. Only within the past few hundred years.
So, what is the difference? If all the same genetically, why the total difference in development of a so called 'civilized' society? Why the differences in resistance to disease?
I do believe it is called genetics.
Again, not better, not worse, just different. Please explain the difference. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2005 1:41:30 PM | No Problems Here....I'll do it with anyone as long as I am attracted to them. Besides, no matter what colour your skin is, your lips are still pink. (and yes I am referring to all lips)
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Posted: 8/29/2005 1:50:52 PM | Forget it Sundown33,I e-mailed a couple af aliens from outer space and just like the women on POF,they didn't respond either!!!  
Oh by the way,I to have no problem with race or culture. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2005 1:54:57 PM | People get over it the question was do or dont not the biological dna set up of humans ... get a life get over it move on ... sheesh ... wanna disuss biologie, and dna an ethic open a new thread all this serves is to make an issue out of likes and dislikes
get real
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Posted: 8/29/2005 4:27:40 PM | | I won't claim to be colour blind. I am aware of people's skin colour and accents etc. However, I relish all those differences. I find the near infinite variety of the human race wonderful. I've dated people of all sorts of races/nationalities. The break ups occurred because we as two individuals didn't mesh. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2005 4:33:23 PM |
dating outside your species is really frowned upon
Everywhere I turn, limitations, limitations.... | |
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