| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/24/2005 1:32:02 AM | We can probably all agree that there untold billions of stars out there with untold billions more planets revolving around said stars. It would only be sensible to imagine some type of life forms out there. Wouldn't it?
Did someone up there say that we may be prototypes? Guh! | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/24/2005 1:34:20 AM | | At the risk of not trying to attack my own religion. I have been observing a desturbing yet growing trend in the church. Christians are starting to believe and preatch on outragous idologys, for example- The world is only 6000 years old- Jesus was a ritch man- Satan and his demons planted the dinosaur bones, to fool man kind into believeing they exist, their just stones designed to look like bones- There is no life in the universe beyond our own world, we are the only ones that god is interested in. I have herd with my own ears these beliefs by people. (I thought they were a little strange anyway, but others are starting to believe them) Have any of you here herd any of these? | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/24/2005 1:47:42 AM | | I suspect Sundown that's why you're seeing more people all the time under the header of spiritual rather than religious nowadays? Churches try and cover their own asses and spiritual people simply wonder whether the aliens feel the same spirit as them I guess? | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/24/2005 3:23:45 AM | I'm sure there is, we just haven't came across one them yet. Either we are the smartest beings in the universe or the most primitive beings in the universe.
Either our technology is far more advance then any other being living somewhere else where they can't communicate with us
Or our technology is soo primitive to other beings living in the universe that we don't know how to communicate to them. | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/24/2005 4:04:56 AM |  *waving hands* that was me that said we might be a proto type, I also included a lot of *if's* in that scenerio. | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/24/2005 7:33:40 AM | Sundown
I have not heard of those claims personally nor are they preached in Roman Catholicism..at least not in my dioscese with the exception of life on other planets to be null and void....In my opinion, man will never unlock the secrets of creation, hence, cloning will ultimately fail (articifical insemination is another topic for another thread)...For life to happen, it requires the breath of the Holy Spirit (faith based obviously)...I dont believe it exists on other planets as we know it | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/24/2005 9:13:06 AM | K...I dont usually do the "Forum" thing, but this 1 caught my eye.
Heres a theory 4 ya, lets put religion aside for a moment and think rationally. Basically, it is mathematically impossible for life not to exist on other planets...heres why. Have u ever been in cottage-country and looked up at the night sky (especially in winter months) Its sometimes hard to find the black in between the white. The majority of those little white dots are not even stars, there actually entire galaxies consisting of hundreds upon millions of stars...In fact there are more "known" stars within our universe than there are grains of sand on every beach combined within this planet. That being said, the majority of these stars are solar systems (mass revolving around them) about 75% or so (Judging on what we can see).
k...Now for a planet to be suitable to sustain life...it must meet certain criteria. A. It must be a certain size, not much bigger than Earth, not much smaller than Mars (Gravity - too much, cant support ur weight, too little...ull float away) B. Must be certain distance from heat source (too close, burn up due to UV rays...too far, freeze to death)...ect. Now, if u were to apply that formula (using means of statistics) to all the known/possible/likely planets within known Universe, one would get a return of an absolute plethora of "possible candidates" (planets with characteristics closely resembling our Earth - distance, heat, mass, orbit...ect) This # would be so high it would blow the average persons mind (Hundreds of billions, followed by respective notation - absolute mind-boggling #'s)
I cant begin to theorize on "The origins of life"...for nobody knows that answer, and it will take a very long time before we come close to unraveling that mystery (Mapping the G-Nome). But I can briefly explain how it natvigates throughout the Universe. There are bacteria which can survive in extreme conditions, this has been proven, weve seen them (In glaciers in Ant Artica, in some of them deepest ocean caverns, under extreme amounts of pressure...ect)...so dont bother arguing this point. Mars once contained life, im sure of this (Even though scientists wont admit it just yet, because u need undisputable proof in the world of science, or else u are ostrisized) But just accept this fact.
Anyways, Mars used to be about where Earth is now (In respect to our sun) The Universe is expanding, always has been, always will be (Einstein proved this theory) As we speak, Earth is moving away from the sun, very slowely...but gradually. 1 day it will be too cold to support life without aid of technology, this is fact. This is what happened to mars, life at its time was not advanced enough to sustain the extreme climate shifts, so it perished (except 4 sum forms of bacteria) Which were transferred to earth (most likely from an asteroid impact) Astroid threw chuncks of mars surface into oribt,,,which became meteors...which impacted Earth, transferring single-celled oranisms...evolved into life as we know it today. (Evolution is not just a lown theory anymore...its been proven) Just look at how viruses mutate themselves, its the exact same notion...Life can and will adapt.
Anywho, there are many meteors flying around space these days (Many more than planets) and all it takes is for 1 of them containing bacteria to strike a "Potential Candidate" planet, and PRESTO!...Give a few million years...and life is well on its way.............You do the math. I could go on 4 ever about this stuff, but me fingers are getting tired. | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/24/2005 12:36:58 PM | | The immensity of the know universe is beyond our comprehension, so much so that practically Anything is possible. Imagine then that this Known Universe is but a tiny part of the Whole... (Whatever the Whole is) I suspect that this is the case. Then we are talking about other things of which will never be known... now, that is mind numbing! | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/24/2005 1:15:07 PM | Here’s some interesting information I just picked up on the web:
“Latest estimates by astronomers tell us that the universe is 30 or 40 billion light years in diameter. In layman's terms, that means that it would take light (which travels at the speed of light J) 40 000 000 000 years to cross from one side of the universe to the other!”
Just for a bit of fun I clicked on 'God the Creator' in the Bibliographic Entry, only to get the message: “Not Found” Ha! Well, go figure!
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/24/2005 6:57:35 PM | | There is no life on other planets, but there are other living planets. The stars are the angels, and the great ocean of space, is the heavens. Planets are sometimes big rocks, and sometimes heavenly animals. | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/29/2005 5:46:11 PM | I'd just like to say thank yo uto every oe who has replyed. Some of them were a bit of the scale but others were really good. Its the first time I've done this ans am just amazed how every one is so respectful of every one else.
Cheers all
God Bless xxxxxxxx | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/30/2005 7:55:38 AM | I respect your belief,Cecily,but I strongly disagree.Of course I don't hold the same religious beliefs you do either but it's a moot point.I'll post my opinion from a Christian perspective.
Jesus came to earth because of the Fall of Man.How do we know there aren't other sentient races who just simply never had a fall?What are angels anyway and how do we know they aren't ET's of some sort?,and finally there is a site,you can look it up by doing a google search on "Cydonia"(that's the region on Mars where the infamous face is supposed to be)that suggests that the fallen angels the Bible speaks about were in fact a race of people who originated on Mars when it was much more like Earth.These beings,according to the site inhabited a very different Mars and built civilazations similar to Babylon and Egypt (they have scriptures to back up their beliefs) there and on a planet that was supposed to have existed where the asteroid belt is now.They rebelled against God and therefore suffered destruction,resulting in the dead planet which is Mars today and the other planet was destroyed and became the asteroid belt .
The problem I have all religions is that they are based on the belief that man is God's central creation,the apple of his eye and so therefore religion creates this anthropomorphic father figure.The universe is simply too vast for me to concieve of God being that. | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/30/2005 10:34:40 AM | | you must be small minded to think life cant exist anywhere else in the universe. there are more planets out there, then there are grains of sand on all our beaches. its reasonable to assume that other planets support life too. In england, there is a place called "stonehenge", which was built 4500 years ago. a long time before jesus was around. Back then people were pagan, which makes more sense, as at least you worship things you can see, and touch. The ancient egyptians were pagans, and christianity came along 400 years after christs death, and now everyone thinks gods always been here. thats just not the case. there were people around long before christ, god, allah, whatever you want to call him. and in time we will venture to other planets and find life there. but when we do, some bright spark, will tell people, that god created them too! | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/30/2005 11:40:37 AM | taurus;
You pose some startlingly good questions... are you familiar with The Disclosure Project? A great download. | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/30/2005 11:51:58 AM | | i like your style, but if E.T did land on earth, the church would say, god made their space craft. | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/31/2005 5:16:13 AM | | I believe that there is life on other planets, we just haven't discovered it / them yet. It is also possible that there are other Gods responsible for other civilizations...it would be the only reason to explain God's fear and commandment that we do not worship other Gods. | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/31/2005 5:29:36 AM | | maybe is wasn't god who said we should only worship him, and not other gods. maybe it was men who came up with this, so if they made us all sing to the same tune then they could control us. isn't religion just a tool to keep the masses in check. to stop us thinking for ourselves, but let god tell us what to think and do? | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/31/2005 6:38:13 AM | Hi 13th good to see you again,
You make an interesting point, maybe like children with marbles the solar system was divided up between the Gods. Each getting their own little planet of beings to play with.
So therefore they are always worried one of the other Gods might come take their planet.
ummmmm I must ponder this more. | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/31/2005 10:12:27 AM | 13, SFL;
This is intriguing because it throws up all sorts of questions... could we all be the creation of some human menagerie? | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 8/31/2005 6:01:25 PM |
We better hope there is intelegent life up there in space, cause thers booger all down here on earth.
Monty Python. | |
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| Is there Life on other Planets?
Posted: 2/12/2006 11:03:33 PM | I think that the universe may be teaming with all types of life forms. The existence of intelligent life however is very improbable, as it seems that intelligence is not normally a requirement for survival in most environments. I do not understand how people can cling to the idea that our world is unique and special when there are hundreds of thousands of stars in our galaxy, and so many galaxies that it is as if each one was a grain of sand on a beach. It would not surprise me if we discovered fossilized evidence of multi-cellular life on mars; at one point it was about the same size of the earth and still has a similar composition. Mars however went through a total displacement event [was struck by a planetoid] and that would have wiped out anything living on mars at that time [even single cell life, due too high temperatures and massive atmospheric changes]. There may still be primitive life on mars, but it would more than likely be based on chemical synthesis much like the deep-sea ecosystems found on earth near volcanic vents.
Creationism troubles me; you would have to be retarded to believe that the earth is only 6 thousand years old. But then again if you are too stupid too understand carbon dating or understand that in order too see something 500 million light years away the universe must be at least 500 million years old then you are not worth consideration. I believe the age of our universe was pinned down at around 3.2 billion years, and the earth at about 1.5 billion or something. I'm not sure on that though, I’m bad with quantitive data. | |
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