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Posted: 8/27/2005 12:00:16 PM | I agree. its as hard for a man to raise choildren alone as it is for a mother. I bneen there done that as a mother. my brother has raised 4 kids on his own & worked part time.
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Posted: 8/27/2005 5:57:48 PM | | Those type god d#mned golddigger type of women should be shot and p#ssed on! Just because a man makes over 50 000 and year does not mean he is intelligent, has a good attitude, is mature, emotionally and physically stable. There are so many other qualities that smart women should be looking for. Not all men are lucky to land a good paying job. I have two university degrees and have never made over 10$ an hour in my life! To most stupid women I have met this is unacceptable, and I dont care. I dont whant this type of women anyways they can go strait to hell! Furthermore just because a man makes 50 000$ or more a year does not mean he will have that job forever. Workers can become sick or injured or can be laid off, and then what will these type of women do? Probably leave the guy. You also find alot a high paying salary jobs for men who are lucky enough to belong to a union. And the only reason they got in a union was because they had a family member already in the union. Most often these peoples education, work experience, intelligence, work ethic are on the lower level. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2005 7:04:12 PM |
Not all men are lucky to land a good paying job. I have two university degrees and have never made over 10$ an hour in my life! To most stupid women I have met this is unacceptable, and I dont care.
Maybe you're making the same mistake professionally as you're making personally?
Just a thought.
And, they're not stupid women. Sorry to be the one to break it to you.
If you can't get a job that pays more than $10/hour, with two university degrees, there's something wrong there. And, these women are smart enough to figure that out. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2005 11:48:56 PM | What the??? A gentleman will pay for the babysitter for the woman's children he is dating??? Now come one. That is just nutz. Does that mean if he asks a woman to the theatre he should also pay for her to go out and buy a nice dress?
I would have to disagree. When you are a single parents, and you wanna go out and have a good time, then it is your responsibility to make sure your children are cared for while you are gone. Not your date's responsibility.
A gentleman will pick up the tab for the date, the actual date. But to expect him to pick up every expence associated with you being with him seems like an awful big sense of entitlement.
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| Should salary determine relationships?
Posted: 8/28/2005 9:37:23 AM | If anyone questions what you do for a living, inform them you clip nose hairs on a rigorous but self-defined schedule. Should you recieve interogation on 'who's nose hairs you clip, indicate that while you've tried it on other people before, you mostly just do your own. ^^
Seriously here.. income is an important part of a relationship, depending on what that relationship is. If you intend to periodically see this person for friendship or entertainment, then income should not be a factor, as long as you are both comfortable with, and able to afford the activities you engage in.
However, if you have something more serious in mind - such as marital union - then income could very well determine whether or not you become responsible for another dependant. Furthermore, should this relationship end prematurely, you may find yourself far worse off financially than you were before this arrangment if you have not taken the proper steps to negotiate your reponsibilities and analyze each others incomes.
As far as marriage is concerned, placing a massive gap (175% or more) could alter your lifestyle in a negative manner, or place undue strain on yourself or your partner, because in today's world of equality, when you plan on sharing everything, you share -everything-, even that overwhelming mortgage. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 12:27:04 PM | @ Oxxiemnan. I only mean the first date. AND IF u read the resat I also saiod that if women ask the man than the woman should pay. I ALSO said that if u date more than once than u both should take turns.As it woulkd be unfare fpr the men to ALWAYS pay. Those arent my exact words but close to it. READ.I dont mind paying if we go out. or even go dutch
Sopme people read ONLY what they want & screw the rest. I am not pointing fingers at anyone certain
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Posted: 8/28/2005 12:39:42 PM | | I still respectfully disagree. I think it is tacky to ask your date to pay for your babysitting...even if it is on an every other date basis split. This goes for both men and women. Why does it suddenly become their responsibility to pay for 50% the other person's kids? If your date say, "let's go to Disneyland and bring the kids" then yes, he should pay because that was part of the offer. But if he asks you to go out for dinner, I dont see how it suddenly becomes his responsiblity to drop you $10 for babysitting, especially since he probably had to pay $20 for someone to watch his kids. The parent is still responsible for the children when they start dating. Resposnibility doesnt suddenly transition to the datee. If dating is going to become this financially entangled, then perhaps the guy should take notes on how much gas he uses, how much dinner is, and if he had to buy a new shirt, then give 1/2 the bill to his date. Kinda takes all the magic out of it, doesnt it? | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 1:03:33 PM | Sorry for the typos in my last one ppl.
I wanted to say the ladies also should realize its hard on a man to pay for everythiing all the time. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 1:05:11 PM | | Well when my son was younger I never ever asked./ he wanted me to go out soo bad he oiffered. But thats the only time I ever had a paid babysitter. I had family. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 1:06:40 PM | Dammn why dont people read the whole thread instead of what they want to read into it. I did NOT say for the man to pay the whole thing dude. READ it right.
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Posted: 8/28/2005 1:41:22 PM | Well....When I met my husband....lets put it this way. He came over one day, and never went home. I paid the bills for years, and he lived with me. (I had two kids, I knew it was my place to pay for things in my home, plus it left me in control of things.) When I had a baby years later, then I said o.k. now you have to pay half the bills. We didn't put are money toghter, and pay things toghter for four years. After time being married and him not wanting me to work, he has taken on the roll as the provider. So does what someone have matter to me. Hell if I know. Most people get by the best they can. I am sure there are people out there that don't care what you make, as long as your making things work, and the bills get paid. They might not be the smartest people in the world, but they might be some of the best people out there. So who knows. Never give up.
Just do your best, and pay your bills. Noone wants someone that comes with a lot of bills. If they got that many bills with out you, think of how many more they will get later. Every one has bills, but its late bills, and unpaid ones that skare people off. Now I am going to post this, and go back and read what everyone put. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:18:55 PM | | MS Picky I am not making any mistakes personally or professionally mabey if you lived in Canada on Vancouver Island you would understand. (I see you live in the United States the economic powerhouse of the world where the economy is good) Its not just me I have friends, in my area with criminology degrees, computer science degrees etc...., who still making 10$ an hour. Are they making a mistake personally or profesionally as well? All there is advertised in my local paper and job board are piss poor wage jobs at places like macdonalds and subway. When a good job comes up like a government job, it is highly competitive. So as far as I am concerned if a women in my area does not understand why I dont make over 10$ an hour and whants me to make more ,else she whont go out with me, she is a stupid goldigger in my books | |
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| Should salary determine relationships?
Posted: 8/28/2005 9:04:49 PM | | It always did and it still does. If it wasn't for the money, women would turn gay and you also need to have a house and a nice car too. This is what makes the ultimate chick magnet, sad but true. Fortunately, rich dudes want rich women and eventually poor chicks trickle down to reality. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2005 2:50:37 PM | Wow, how cynicle the male population is about women at times. It is really kinda scary that men cant face their own insecurities and admit that the package they are offering as a partner, is just not what many women are looking for. Instead of trying to better present themselves they have to attack, call names, and devalue women for trying to make sound decisions about their futures. But yet I am willing to bet that all these men that are chastizing women about caring about financial capatability, would not think twice to reject a woman based on her not being physically attractive enough for him. Pot calling the kettle black me thinks.
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Posted: 8/30/2005 4:27:08 PM | | Yes you are right who the fox. 10 $ an hour is alright money for a person living on Vancouver Island for a single person. I was not complaining about my wage I was just saying I have met women who think this is unaceptable. I am getting by on this wage and am happy but I would still like to make more (dont we all) I would not raise a family on 10 $ an hour though, statistics show that it costs 9000$ a year to have a kid. If I had a kid there would go all my beer money. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2005 5:27:27 PM | | Ozzieman. When you love someone it does not matter how much money they make. Women who judge men only on how much money they make are stupid golddiggers and I will continue to call them that. There are rich guys with good jobs that treat their wives and girlfriends like shit. If a women has a standard for how much her man makes she is missing out on decent working guys (who just so happen to only minimum wage) . A women can still have a good future with a guy with a low income provided that he keeps working. Just because someone makes more money than someone else does not mean, as you said "better present themselves" One has to take in all the qualities and factors a potential mate is offering not just income. I have not once judged a women on how much she makes and I have a broad spectrum of what I consider attractive in a women | |
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Posted: 8/30/2005 5:28:39 PM | | So i've read through all these relpies, and I just wanted to add my 2 cents worth in... lol... ok that wasn't suppose to come out funny but it did to me. Anways. I do believe that income does have a direct influence on a persons objective towards a relationship. But it truly does depend on what the characteristics of the person are. There are people that love to wine and dine, travel, vacation, etc.... no matter what way you try to justify it those things require one thing... $$$ I believe that people in general are looking for a person who is financially stable, or at least motivated to become financially stable. It makes for a better relationship in general. In my personal opinion I don't believe that salary determines a relationship.... or what im looking for in a person, but I do believe that If I am going to settle down or date someone, I would want her to being working towards her "dream job" or if she is doing what she loves and isn't making a killing, that she was passionate about what she was doing. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2005 5:44:08 PM | Some of us have to take a job that pays bills why we scrabble towards doing what we love. It is called
REALITY
The point I am trying to make is that the current job doesn't tell the whole story, not by a long shot. Until you talk to someone, you have no idea how stable they really are or how motivated. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2005 7:30:58 PM | | I believe it stems from a womans need to find the best provider for her future children. I dont make that much money and never will but I know I can be hapy with what I have. If a woman is looking for the best provider than I believe it's because she can't provide. I dont think I would want to know a woman like that. | |
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