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 smileatjen

Joined: 2/5/2008
Msg: 1126
Can men and women be friends without sex?
Posted: 2/10/2008 2:41:32 PM
Yes you can have friends without any sex. OH I couldn't even bare the thought of having sex with some of my friends..not that they are attractive, but they'd have some smart remark during the act lol
 onlyfortheforums

Joined: 1/21/2008
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Posted: 2/10/2008 2:55:15 PM
I think it is up to you to find it in yourself to trust him until you have hard evidences or else he has every motive to be able to back you in a corner, by saying you are being simply jealous or overprotective ... if you are wondering, there's nothing wrong with a little "self-confirmation"either (btw), as Heratio Caine (CSI) says "trust, but confirm".
 DarkAngel_on_Horseback

Joined: 1/28/2008
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Posted: 2/10/2008 3:49:24 PM

Can men and women be friends without sex?


Yeah, it's called family, friends, teachers, people in authority.... It's also called ED

Setting the above aside for obvious reasons, you have your friends, he has his and both of you have friends of the opposite sex, why would you or he want to sleep with them? Assuming that you and he are in an exclusive relationship.

Finally... YOU get what you tolerate! Stand up girl!!! When you first meet, you set your boundaries of what you will accept and not accept, then respect each others' boundaries. If you let him walk all over you then, well, what can I say... Anyway, Listen to your inner voice, it is your guide.

Now having said all that, if you're just insecure because of past experiences, you need to work on it (providing that he is true and blue), test his position by doing what he does, go out with some single guys and see how he likes it. Does he voice any concerns? No? Well, he must not think highly of you. A one-sided relationship is not a relationship at all, unless you're into submissiveness and he's into dominance.

 TombstoneTom

Joined: 12/15/2006
Msg: 1129
Can men and women be friends without sex?
Posted: 2/10/2008 6:03:50 PM
Very unlikely.

It;s simply how we are wired. anytime a male and female spends time together, it will cross their minds.

Human nature is human nature no matter how much we try out the grey area, or how we spin it.

Tom
 pattyinla

Joined: 10/6/2007
Msg: 1130
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Posted: 2/10/2008 8:24:29 PM
I have worked in a male dominated profession for 28 years and I have incredible bonds with some of these men. In some ways I am even closer to them than their spouses. But I have never slept with any of them. We go out after work, we go to events, all sorts of things but there is a level of trust there and I would never break that trust.
That being said their significant others know me and are comfortable with me. I think the question is...how comfortable are you with his friends. I strongly believe that if you sense there is a problem then there is a problem. Listen to your little voice, it will never steer you wrong.
 Miss Eyre

Joined: 1/2/2008
Msg: 1131
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Posted: 2/10/2008 8:28:32 PM
I have read through this whole thread,.. what I heard in the beginning was that men and women can be platonic freinds.. a lot of people describing their freinds 'like a brother' or 'like a sister'.. ok, fair enough, if the two people are not attracted to each other, then yes, a freindship can be real.
As the thread goes on, there seems to be more admissions from people that they are attracted to their freinds, but that they maintain self control. Now this is where lines get blurred, and I get concerned. Why on earth would you put yourself in the tempting and angst filled position of being emotionally close and in close physical proximity to someone you find sexually tempting? What sort of masochistic flirting with danger is that? I sense a lot of utter selfishness from people here.. there is no concern for the SO's feelings on this. its a lot of 'If my bf/gf doesnt like my freinds, they can go,.. I'm not giving up my freinds for anyone'.. hmm,.. and with attitudes like that, is it any wonder so many of you might be still single? What person in their right mind, will want to start a relationship with someone who has 'freinds' of the opposite sex,.. 'freinds' I might add, that a lot of you here have admitted to finding sexually attractive? This is how the 'it just happened' scenarios start.
I personally, being extrememly honest here, could not be freinds with a man I found very attractive.. I think its a ticking time bomb,.. and I sure as heck dont trust a man to be freinds with a woman. I dont date or meet people who have opposite sex freinds.. its drama waiting to happen. I dont need to be in last postion in his life, after his freinds.. nope, no way. I look ahead, and see the potential drama there.
I still maintain, that for most people, having opposite sex freinds is a ticking time bomb. And the worst thing is,.. if most of you all on here were truthful,.. you KNOW that its the truth. Miss Eyre.
 BamaBob

Joined: 11/12/2007
Msg: 1132
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Posted: 2/10/2008 8:43:02 PM
I think it really depends on the venue of when and where you came to know them. There are several women I knew when I was growing up that we have always been friends, especially those I knew in the church I grew up in. I always put many of them on such a pedestal that I could not date them. It was kind of like I didn't want them to know the real me! Or maybe I just didn't want to tarnish the purity I thought of them. Maybe they were too much like sisters to me or something. I do know that I hardly ever dated any of the girls I knew in school or church. But, for the most part, if she's a hot looking sensuous babe then there's no way she can just be a friend.... most girls like that are simply not going to allow a guy to be "just friends".
 Lavinia10

Joined: 2/4/2008
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Posted: 2/10/2008 8:44:21 PM
Absolutely. However, a boyfriend so busy with female friends would not make me feel good either. Obviously you were not a priority in his life.
 andsometimeswhy

Joined: 11/18/2007
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Posted: 2/10/2008 9:49:00 PM
Miss Eyre:

Why on earth would you put yourself in the tempting and angst filled position of being emotionally close and in close physical proximity to someone you find sexually tempting? What sort of masochistic flirting with danger is that?

I think it's possible to admit that someone is attractive without being "tempted" to have sex with them. I have plenty of very attractive female friends. But just because I've judged them to be attractive doesn't mean I want to be anything other than "just friends" with them.


I sense a lot of utter selfishness from people here.. there is no concern for the SO's feelings on this. its a lot of 'If my bf/gf doesnt like my freinds, they can go,.. I'm not giving up my freinds for anyone'..

I don't think this is selfish at all. Someone who can't handle the fact that I have a female best friend is not the kind of person I'm interested in being with. I think it's far more selfish to expect your SO to just dump their opposite sex friends simply because you find it uncomfortable.


,.. and with attitudes like that, is it any wonder so many of you might be still single?

I've had a female best friend for years, and several girlfriends during that time. Some had a problem with it. One was slightly uncomfortable, but she got over it. In my two most recent "serious" relationships it was hardly an issue at all. Yes, having an opposite sex best friend narrows the field somewhat, but the ones who make the cut are less likely to have self-esteem issues and are more likely to be trusting. (Attractive qualities, both.)

Years ago I dated a girl whose best friend was a guy. And it was obvious he had a thing for her. Did it bother me? A little, at first, but then it occurred to me: if I can't trust her with him, what kind of a relationship are we going to have? If she is who I think she is, what do I have to worry about? And if she's not who I think she is, isn't it better to find out sooner rather than later?
 Miss Eyre

Joined: 1/2/2008
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Posted: 2/10/2008 10:03:30 PM
To AndSometimes Why...
Well, excuse my ego.. but I wouldnt want to be with someone who admits he finds his opposite sex freinds attractive.. but thats just me.
I cannot ask you personal questions on a forum,. it wouldnt be appropriate, but I do wonder if those girls you decided to trust, were , in the end, trustworthy?
I dont believe the guff about people objecting to the friends scenario as being insecure, or having self esteem issues. It could be, in fact, that they have a healthy dose of self esteem, and dont want to be with a partner who admits he finds his female friends attractive,. and expects an SO to be fine with that. The 'you're insecure' manipulation doesnt work with me. Less trusting? yes, I'll concede that its less trusting.. and is that nessacerilly a bad thing? Just look at all the threads on these Forums about people who have had affairs with opposite sex friends, or went back to ex partners? loads and loads.. dont you think its a bit silly to blindly trust? All those people who have had an SO go off with a friend or an ex were trusting.. hmmm... I see a connection there.. you, most probably do not. Miss Eyre.
 daylilliesback

Joined: 12/16/2007
Msg: 1136
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Posted: 2/11/2008 9:39:03 AM
@ It;s simply how we are wired. anytime a male and female spends time together, it will cross their minds.

^^^its all about setting boundaries and having self control.
 wondering1980

Joined: 1/18/2008
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Posted: 2/11/2008 9:43:21 AM
depends on who the chick is....its a double standard...i have lots of male friends i've never had sex with and never will ....there so close to me now i consider them more like brothers so nope its a myth...sounds like your ex can't be friends with women without sex..
 edward1224

Joined: 10/29/2005
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Posted: 2/11/2008 9:47:35 AM
Yes, I'm friends with several women without having sex. It just depends on what the relationship is composed of.

Ed
 andsometimeswhy

Joined: 11/18/2007
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Posted: 2/11/2008 11:47:31 AM
Miss Eyre, I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree.

And to answer your non-question, I have no idea whether the girl in question was trustworthy in the end, because it didn't really last long enough for me to find out. But that had nothing to do with her male best friend. (If she had wanted to be with him, she could have been. She knew that, everyone knew that. But even after years of friendship, nothing had happened. Why would anyone be threatened by that situation?)

I'm not saying that opposite sex friends are always completely trustworthy. I'm just saying that often enough they are, and sometimes it's worth finding out instead of dismissing a potential partner simply because of the sex of those with whom they choose to be friends.
 psylocke23

Joined: 1/3/2008
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Posted: 2/16/2008 10:04:51 AM

I can't believe how many guys on this thread have claimed to have no female friends, and have denied even the possibility of being friends with a woman!

Seriously, guys, you're depriving yourselves. Women put a lot more effort into friendships than guys do, in my experience. Sex doesn't have to be an issue, just try a little self-control.


Truly!!!
 Flick289

Joined: 12/26/2007
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Posted: 2/16/2008 10:25:26 AM
Speaking for myself, yes it can be done and I have done it. One lady (in fact she's getting married today) has been a friend for about 17 years. We have never gone out on a date but we have always been there for each other and helped each other out whenever we have been needed. In another case I had an ex girlfriend and we remained friendly after the romance ended. I belong to a classic - hot rod car club and there have been times I wanted too attend a club function but didn't want to go alone. When she was not dating anyone she didn't want to sit home by herself on a Saturday night so she and I would ride together and hang out together at the function, then usually stop off for something to eat on the way home. We usually paid for our own meals but sometimes if she was a little short I'd foot the bill but I'd do that for any friend, male or female. We could also talk to each other about new people we were interested in and because we knew each other's history, we could talk about family and friends without having to explain from square one where those people fit in our lives. In my opinion, you have to like each other as people and not romantic prospects if it's going to work. If it isn't balanced in that way, sooner or later the friendship will fall apart.
 Dic Tracy

Joined: 7/12/2007
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Posted: 2/16/2008 10:48:18 AM
Sex or no sex, Why unjustifably arouse suspicion, or jealousy (the most dangerous of human emotion) by sending free time with the oposite sex if in a realtionship? Its how my conduct affects others... especially the one closest to me, that I take in to concideration. For that alone I am responsible. Keep in mind that I only speak for myself on the issue. Standards & values differ with each & every individual.
 komodo

Joined: 5/27/2005
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Posted: 2/22/2008 3:11:02 AM
Yes, it is possible to be just friends with women without the proverbial "friends with benefits" concept getting in the way. Although, it does depend on the people involved and their, I'm sorry, their "maturity" level. - just my opinion. Based on the fact that I've got many female friends. A few people that I've met don't believe in the idea, thats OK for them....
 scarletwoman2008

Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 2/23/2008 9:45:03 AM
of course men and women can be friends without sex getting in the way My best and closet friend is a man, we've been friends many years and have never ever had a sexual relationship, furthermore it is possible to remain friends when a relationship fails, again an ex boyfriend of mine is now a very good friend! Yes i do have my fair share of female friends who i wouldn't trade for all the tea in china, but somehow my friendships with men are much more fulfilling, prehaps because i find men much easier to get along with, probably down to me being raised by my father and on this note can i just state that men can and often do make excellent single fathers! I only hope i can do as good a job raising my kids as my father did raising the four of us!!!
 happyhazeleyes

Joined: 1/26/2008
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Posted: 2/23/2008 11:09:23 AM
Most definitely men and women can be friends without sex. I have male friends I'd never sleep with, but I consider myself blessed to say they are good and caring friends.

Could you imagine a world where men and women did nothing else but have sex with everyone they met???

As exciting as that might sound to some, I think even the most verile of us would tire of that much 'excitment' and long for some good ole fashioned conversation and genuine friendship.

Happy fishing and remember, be careful what you reel in.
 clovisblues

Joined: 2/17/2008
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Posted: 2/23/2008 11:43:53 AM
I have several female friends and one of them I do go out with - lunch this time of year, and kayaking when its decent. We were romantically involved and I wouldn't give up the kayaking unless someone else presented themselves and was as much of a fiend for small boats :-)

She reminds me she has pants I could get in every now and then, but that is off in the past for me and she has been seeing other people. Its all good ...
 gjay1

Joined: 6/1/2007
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Posted: 2/23/2008 3:17:48 PM
i cant believe there are so many people who have issues with this - i have always had friends of both sexes and of all ages - and they are all so important in my life...
the male friends ....never never has the idea of sex been an issue!! we are friends not anything else....but this doesnt make it a lesser thing...it means they are my friends and as such so very valuable to me - whether they are male or female - young or old....and ive been out with fellas who have close women friends ....of course i believe thats all they are - there is no reason why not and i find that people who have both male and female friends are just so much more comfortable in relationships as a result of the opposite sex being familiar- not some foreign species!!
 ZirconInTheRough

Joined: 1/21/2008
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Posted: 2/23/2008 3:33:21 PM
I'm very good friends with a few women.
One of which I was in a serious relationship with, but we never slept together.

Yes, there are some guys who keep 'female friends' as a cushion for when/if things don't work out well between them and their current g/f. In fact, the women themselves may not even be aware of that intention, but I still maintain that some guys do, and they are perfectly functional friendships.

If you have any doubts as to whether or not a man is keeping ladies on the stringer, then start examining his previous relationships, and ask the women themselves.
Pay attention to what kind of activities he and his female friend do together.
It's hard for me to say what key indicators one should look for when a man keeps women on the stringer, because I don't know.
 caramelkiss31

Joined: 2/5/2008
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Posted: 2/23/2008 4:53:30 PM
Yes men and women can be friends without sex.... my best friend is a man we have been best friends for 13 years and sex has never been an issue. He gives me advice from a man's stance and i give him advice from a woman's and it works out well in both of our relationships with other people. We have the best of both worlds....I get the mans point of view and he receives the woman's point of view... we have never crossed that line, it would be like sleeping with my brother and he with his sister. I think that if people can't be mature enough to understand, you can have a friend ( opposite sex) that you don't sleep with they need to grow up.. there are some things in life that supersedes the superficial carnal desires and takes on a life of something deep and sacred ...a commitment between a man and a woman that's not sexual, but something bonded.
 Cynderella

Joined: 3/8/2007
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Posted: 2/24/2008 11:26:55 PM
I think on a women's behalf Yes...

On a man's behalf No...

I think they can start out that way but the wanting what you can't have thingy creeps in.

Maybe if it were a Will and Grace thing.
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