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 ass_clown

Joined: 8/31/2007
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Posted: 9/10/2007 2:20:28 PM
princess_leigh, i wish you the best of luck, but nobody can predict the future with much accuracy - and what accuracy is had, diminishes as the forecast goes further into the future.

if you think you can make predictions, then tell me what this chart will look like in the next year and we'll both be billionaires.

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=FOREX_USDJPY&v=dmax

"I have brought them upto respect everyone no matter what"

that's respectable but they're an *individual* with their own consciousness and whose life's outcome is not even close to being entirely in your hands, or even their own. if that were true then everyone's reality would be exactly their fantasy.

you've gambled with another's life (the ones you would love most) by choosing to bring them into existence. we hope you and yours do well, but there is no guarantee.
 oldfashioned

Joined: 8/13/2004
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Posted: 9/10/2007 2:31:23 PM
Its better if you know you don't want kids not to have them .Because if you have them when you don't them then that child will probably be the next one in foster care from abuse or worse yet dead.I am a mother and grandmother or nana as my grands call me and I can't imagine not having them but that is because I wanted them.
 lttaa

Joined: 7/25/2007
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Posted: 9/10/2007 2:31:47 PM
Well I would have to say that I am more concerned about the masses of people out there that have no business procreating as you put it , and have abysmal parenting skills at best.
Not everyone feels the need to have children, and the world is full of millions of orphans and otherwise that need good homes. I tend to believe that as human beings we are able to distinguish ourselves from other animals by the use of an opposable thumb, higher cognitive thinking and the ability to resist the urge to produce offspring without considering our motivation for doing so...on the contrary I feel that rushing to have children without being in a solid two parent relationship, being financially stable or going through messy break ups that affect children terribly is much more selfish than deciding that you wish to lead your own life.
 oldfashioned

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Posted: 9/10/2007 2:33:17 PM
My dad raised me and my 2 sisters after my mom died alone and we are just fine.
 lttaa

Joined: 7/25/2007
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Posted: 9/10/2007 2:57:42 PM
I'm not saying there are single parents that aren't great parents and that you must have two parents to raise great kids...I just think it would be nice to be able to have that type of situation if it is possible...I'm more along the lines of single parents that arent equipped to do it alone and are neglectful in the needs of their children ..putting their own selfish pursuits and lifestyle ahead of the childs.
 ecco1983

Joined: 6/28/2007
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Posted: 9/10/2007 3:04:52 PM
I just don't feel I'd make a good job, you know :-)

After babysitting my four year old niece since she was a baby and with the big possibility of being a babysititng to my nephew once he comes along, I dont feel I'd make a good job.

I would feel like a bad person if I gave birth to a baby knowing I wont feel the mothering instinct. T me, thats cruel to the baby, just as cruel as aborting it (although I'm pro-abortion) or giving it up fo adoption.

Also, someone may feel its not the right time to have a baby. In this dark world where we're scared to go out after dark and also ina world where we can go into debt and the future can look bleak....I wouldnt want to bring a child into this world.
 piscescoda

Joined: 6/17/2005
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Posted: 9/10/2007 4:58:45 PM

They have to be rich.....At least in some parts of this earth....to buy protection for birth controll


Birth control's cheaper than a kid.
 guess

Joined: 1/23/2007
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Posted: 9/10/2007 5:02:07 PM
Is that so?Been to the Us and what I saw there wasnt really what I wished to see...The American dream falled a part,seing children that wasnt exactly living the same kind of life as the children does in this country..................................................................................................................
 piscescoda

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Posted: 9/10/2007 5:12:03 PM
I'm sorry, was there relevance in that post? I must've missed it.
 rockangelz

Joined: 8/25/2007
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Posted: 9/10/2007 6:52:09 PM
I don't think that we are here just to raise children. I NEVER wanted to have kids, don't get me wrong I have 3 now and love them all, but there are days when I think what it would have been like if I didn't. Some people just don't want to give up the freedom of living without diapers, and in a way I can't say I blame them. It is hard, stressful, and if you're on your own...crazy. I don't think it's selfish to not want kids, it's a choice and if those people are positive, for whatever reason, then I think they are actually being responsible. Good for them!
For the record, I wouldn't give my kids up for the world, they DO change your life.
This is just my personal opinion though!!
 rjpeagles

Joined: 11/30/2005
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Posted: 9/10/2007 8:09:24 PM

What are your veiws about people that choose not to have children? Do you think they are selfish?

I don't understand what selfish has to do with this subject (yes, I know the OP no longer has a profile so I won't get an answer from them).

Someone deciding never to bring children into this world is being honest and self-less.
 Bbbashful

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Posted: 9/10/2007 8:20:29 PM

Anyone that has made this choice..can you shed some light on this matter for me..care to share as to why you have chosen not to carry on your blood-line?


I have no kids (that I'm aware of) and I guess I kept postponing it until I felt that I could afford to have them. It's too late now, but I really don't regret not having any.

I'm not all that hung up with feelings of superiority for carrying on "my bloodline".

I believe the biggest problem facing mankind today is uncontrollable population growth and someone has to practice what they believe in.
 CrossingHolly

Joined: 10/11/2006
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Posted: 9/10/2007 8:23:10 PM
I think they never want kids...
I have a few friends that have chosen not to have children. They are quite happy with their lives as is.. Many of them have extremely busy lifestyles and children just would not fit into their schedules. I think it's better to choose not to have them, than have them because society (or your mother..) tells you you should.
 JRydel

Joined: 9/5/2007
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Posted: 9/10/2007 8:54:20 PM
The American Dream is alive and well. Children in the USA have it better in this country than anywhere else in the world especially if they have two normal loving parents in a stable family environment. The social services for children are extremely good in the USA and no children starve to death. Foster homes are easily available for any child that need such care. Take a look at Russia and you will see homeless children on the street in the middle of winter begging for food. And in Brazil where there are many homeless children police death squads are assigned to murder children so they don't interfere with the local tourist economy.
 equus2

Joined: 9/4/2007
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Posted: 9/10/2007 9:48:45 PM

Response to Guest:

Is that so?Been to the Us and what I saw there wasnt really what I wished to see...The American dream falled a part,seing children that wasnt exactly living the same kind of life as the children does in this country..................................................................................................................


Most Americans will tell you how great America is because they have heard it said over and over again since childhood, but the majority know nothing about life in Europe. Be glad most Americans do not know how wonderful Sweden and other places are or they may move there, bring the American ways and hangups with them, and spoil the things that makes those places so wonderful. I was born in the US and been working toward moving to Europe. As far as I am concern the sooner the better.

As for the typical American child: Spoiled, lazy, sheltered, overmedicate, irresponsile and undisciplined. In my opinion, I am living amongst the worst generation of parents that have ever existed in this country. I have tried to hire older teens to work on my farm for 8-10 dollars an hours and few agree to work, the ones that do, do so for a day and don't come back, because they realize they don't have to work, they can just get it from mom or dad, and believe me the work is not hard.

Half of the 25-35 year olds are sitting in their parents houses playing video games while the rest of the people are out working: Just wait and see how the American 10 year olds of today are going to end up!

Question: How does a nation of young people whom don't want to work, compete in a global economy with hungry Indian and Chinese? Answer: They don't. I have to get out of here quick!
 charm2007

Joined: 8/2/2007
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Posted: 9/11/2007 4:03:17 PM
heavenscherubangel:

How can you say that the reason we were put on earth is for the sole purpose of procreation? It's fine if that's what you think, but you're posting this for the whole world to see. Did it ever occur to you that there are people on this site who can't have children? What's our purpose then?

Some people don't want children, some do, some can't have them either way. Live and let live. What if I told you my primal instinct is not to procreate considering I CAN'T. My primal instinct is to try to make a difference in this world.
 smalltownmarie

Joined: 1/27/2007
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Posted: 9/11/2007 4:24:02 PM
I'm an oddity, I have six children, boy do I get comments! To me it was the best thing I ever did, being a mommy is usually a pretty great thing!
 guess

Joined: 1/23/2007
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Posted: 9/11/2007 4:24:09 PM
equus 2
Glad to read that you're not one of those brain washed people who can just see what they soceity told you to see...
While I was in the Us,I saw children grewing up in places that a cage would have been equal to their way of living so all I can say the birtcontroll is for the rich man in some countries.....
 claire2282

Joined: 12/27/2006
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Posted: 9/11/2007 4:39:47 PM
I personally think it's terrible to see the way non-parents are generalising about those who have kids, with comments like "they are mostly young parents"..what constitutes as a young parent?...16?...20?... 30? Look at the statistics (for the U.K at least) and i think you'll find the average age of childbearing is increasing as more women choose to have careers and put kids on the backburner! Also comments like: "why have kids if you cant afford them?"...Well as the average kid costs something like a quarter of a million pound to raise then it's probably beyond the reach of most of us, so all us "working class" better not have any then!..... Oh dear, that rules out about 80% of us then!!! And as all those "middle/upper class" people are busy earning big bucks and putting kids on the backburner....that rules out the other 20%. So, oops! Looks like the population is due to die out in about....oh, 85 years or so (average life expectancy)....oh well then, better think again about that one!!!!!!!!
 SapphyreSkye

Joined: 12/20/2006
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Posted: 9/11/2007 4:44:02 PM
I think they don't want kids. What's so difficult about that concept?
 Sweetness5

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Posted: 9/11/2007 4:56:59 PM
Have you ever thought that perhaps some people are unable to have children, not a choice but a medical reason. The heartache of knowing that you are unable to have a child is rough, but you learn to accept and embrace your nieces and nephews and your close friends as one of your own
 JRydel

Joined: 9/5/2007
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Posted: 9/11/2007 5:35:02 PM
All people should be required to take a class and pass an exam before they can have children.
Kind of like getting a drivers license.
And if they don't take good care of their children, which includes teaching them good ethics and morality, they should be put in a cage called jail.
Last Question on the exam: What do they call people who don't use birth control?
Answer: Parents
 coca2

Joined: 2/17/2006
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Posted: 9/11/2007 5:42:46 PM
I knew from a young age that I never wanted children. I still don't and I won't . To each his/her own.
 TTM_1974

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Posted: 9/11/2007 7:05:11 PM
I simply move past these people. Watch the movie Idiocracy and realize that the people who are doing the "smart" thing are actually doing the dumb thing.

 piscescoda

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Posted: 9/11/2007 7:53:57 PM
How can you say that the reason we were put on earth is for the sole purpose of procreation? It's fine if that's what you think, but you're posting this for the whole world to see. Did it ever occur to you that there are people on this site who can't have children? What's our purpose then?

Apparently she realizes she has nothing to offer except opening her legs and being a baby-making machine. It's sad, really.


I simply move past these people. Watch the movie Idiocracy and realize that the people who are doing the "smart" thing are actually doing the dumb thing.

See that's what you don't get. I *love* Idiocracy. That concept is exactly why I don't want to have or raise kids, and I don't think anyone with half a brain should. Let the idiots take over, since we seem to be heading in that direction anyway. If those of us worth a shit don't have kids, the cycle stops with us. Then eventually it won't matter when people are Darwinisming themselves out.

Oh, btw... this post was brought to you by Carl's Jr. Fuck you, I'm eating.
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