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 rollergrrl

Joined: 6/12/2006
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Posted: 9/11/2007 8:13:51 PM


yes some people like you should not have the gift of children and be lonely in old age...that is your choice not to have family... but don't grow up like my aunt when you get old and resent that you have no one who loves you... cause you will.... all of a sudden you will be in your 60's... no children or grand babies... no family and feel sorry for yourself .... no sympathy... you don't want children... fine... don't knock normal people who think of the future.... children are gods gifts... you were when you were born.... respect that and stop knocking normal people for wanting a normal family life of love


this has to be the most stupid reason to have kids


 littlelired

Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 352
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Posted: 9/11/2007 8:27:19 PM
What are your veiws about people that choose not to have children? Do you think they are selfish? I really don't think they are selfish, but, how can they resist their most primal instinct...which is to pro-create?

Anyone that has made this choice..can you shed some light on this matter for me..care to share as to why you have chosen not to carry on your blood-line?

I am a mom to a half dozen children and taken in an assorted bunch of neighborhood kids that were born to parent sthat were unable t/unwilling to put their kids first...

I will tell you that I am NOT a BROOD MARE...although at time when i was running around bring ing the older ones to assorted activities and dragging toddler and a pregnant belly around when i was 2 weeks over due that is exactly how i felt... I do not think that every one shoudl actually pass along their blood line...if i knew then what i know now i wouldnt have had as many children as i had....i would ahve made sure i didnt (i recently founf out that i am a carrier of a few not so nice genetic things due to my daughters pregnancy related issues)

I am not only an atomic momma Im a agrandmother as well...talk abotu decieving if you look at my profile... but it is my humble opinion that those who choose not to have children are actually doing the responsible thing...they are taking a proactive decision and stayign with something that they may regret when they are old and grey and unabel to do anything about it....while those of us who do not actively coose to have or not have children and end up with children well we are actually the unthinking ones...

I have exactly 1 child that was planned. the remainder were various means of birthcontrol failures. Not that they were unwanted mearly unplanned...
 Genevieve84

Joined: 7/12/2007
Msg: 353
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Posted: 9/11/2007 9:13:05 PM
Thank God for people like this. Also, thank god for people who have chosen to have them...because I wouldn't be here. I respect both choices. I'm 32, single, and successful and I think I want kids, but am not attached to having them. I still have a lot I want to do before I do so.

People who don't have them either can't or have chosen not to for various reasons and they are all good ones. With the population now approaching, what, 300 million or so, I think our existence is pretty safe from extinction.
 raychass

Joined: 8/10/2007
Msg: 354
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Posted: 9/12/2007 3:25:39 AM
300million ! no try more like approaching quickly 2 billion.
 Indianchop

Joined: 1/29/2007
Msg: 355
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Posted: 9/12/2007 4:44:29 AM
I'm one of those people who now has a son. My view on it was more out of fear than anything though. Now, my son is the greatest part of life indeed. Truth be told though, parenthood just recently in my opinion is just now being seen as the serious thing that it is. Granted, there are still all these teenage pregnancies and such, but you are now seeing people realize how life changing it is. I applaud those who realize the path they want their life to take and rather than conform, take the measures to do so rather than be a parent when it's not 'in them'.
 celebrtlife

Joined: 5/23/2007
Msg: 356
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Posted: 9/12/2007 8:02:38 AM
What's right for one person is not right for another. I knew of friends earlier in my years that did not want to be parents because of childhood abuse they had experienced. They have a right to make decisions based on how they feel, not anyone else or society. I, however, love my two children and two grandchildren to death. They are sooo important to me. I also know of people who do have children who are lousy parents. So to think everyone should want and like children is absurd.
Everyone is different, accept it.
 princess leigh

Joined: 4/20/2006
Msg: 357
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Posted: 9/17/2007 11:08:16 AM

this has to be the most stupid reason to have kids

rollergrrl
and hope you feel this way in twenty years time unlike my aunt.... only going from experiance, nothing more.... we all have opinions... being a proud mother ... ok can't understand people not wanting them.... but not my problem... but now listening to my aunt who always insisted children where not important ... now she is alone and regrets it.... she thought of her presant not her future... that was her choice.... that is all I am saying.... the thought of being in my 60's... no family and lonely would frighten the hell out of me.... but that is just me... am now seeing me Aunt this way... her choice and has to live with it.... that is all I am saying
 ladyhawk63

Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 358
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Posted: 9/17/2007 11:19:20 AM
I have not had any children and it was simply a personal choice. Dont get me wrong I love kids, I just chose not to have any myself. My response to people who dont understand my position is..."well I never owned a dog, love em...think I should go out and get a dog just cause I can?" I dont think at all that my choice was selfish, I strongly believe that we have free choice, free decision and free will ..simply put, I did not wish to be a single parent changing diapers and all that icky stuff like runny noses..ick I cant stomach the process therefore I never tried to babysit after the first time..I dont feel like I have cheated myself, as the saying goes "you cant miss what you dont already have"
 claireg

Joined: 9/13/2007
Msg: 359
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Posted: 9/17/2007 11:20:21 AM
Hi, its called Choice, hopefully it still exists, it does for me!
Having kids or not having kids is a personal decision, maybe you need to get out of ga,ga land, and get a life.
Thankfully i have sex as enjoyment, not to pro-create.
 capegardengirl

Joined: 4/29/2006
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Posted: 9/17/2007 12:45:03 PM
There are a group of single people, myself included, who never got the chance to have children...We always wanted them but never found a partner to have them with and did not want to "settle" by marrying the wrong partner just to have kids, or, in the womens situtation, have kids out of wedlock without a supportive father and husband..So we didnt have kids for all the right reasons but its not neccessarily our own personal choice in the matter
 WindRoper

Joined: 7/24/2007
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Posted: 9/17/2007 2:00:42 PM
Princess Leigh -- your logic is flawed. A person could have a spouse and child(ren), outlive the spouse, outlive 1 or more children and/or alienate children, and still end up alone in their 60s. Cuz I want to be taken care of in my golden years is NOT a good reason to have children.
 princess leigh

Joined: 4/20/2006
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Posted: 9/18/2007 1:43:58 PM
gosh I am sounding so wrong..... forgive me... if you are happy in you pension years with no family then ... hey... good on you,..... I just love the thought that I have improved and grown my family..... so sorry you all think that is wrong.... but I know I have a future family.... is that so wrong?????????????
 AappleTree

Joined: 7/21/2007
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Posted: 9/18/2007 3:14:35 PM
I don't understand it either. I would love to have kids. .... still. I was divorced before we got to that point.... and as the years have gone by, finding a willing participant who is a match is virtually impossible. If a match were to drop into my world.... you bet.... diapers, screams in the middle of the night.... cleaning up poopies.... explaining why mud is just wet dirt... I would take it.
 JENNYMAC

Joined: 12/28/2006
Msg: 364
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Posted: 9/19/2007 6:50:45 AM
equus2..you state As for typical American child spoiled,lazy,overmedicated,irresposible,and undisciplined in your opinion you are living amongest worst genaration of parents that have ever existed in USA.
my my YOU DO NOT GIVE MUCH CREDIT TO YOUR COUNTRY PEOPLE
you think living in Europe!!!! children are doing things diffrent.take a look how many young people in England that do not have JOB still living with the elder parents and living on their pension
I have two wonderful son's who have always worked hard great community service since they were 8 and to this day thay go to school full time, work 30 hours week and still make time to help others. I know many young man and women who work hard and are making difrrence in this world, and work for FREE...do you know how many people from Europe are living in USA..and more each day are trying to move here.
and yes I have lived in many parts of Europe and still love coming back to USA ALWAYS!! parents teach your child to study hard, workd hard, and take care of your community always. life wil be wonderful were ever you live.
as a PARENT my joy has and will always be my children who I know !!!!have made a diffrenc in this wonderful counrty we are STILL FREE!!! USA!!!!
 zangie

Joined: 5/30/2007
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Posted: 9/19/2007 7:44:14 AM
beleive it or not, for whatever reason..i never had the desire to be a mother, i didnt even play with baby dolls as a little girl..i dont hate children, and i love my nieces and nephews, but i never wanted any myself...and i think i am a caring, nurturing person..i am, actually, somwehat of a stray collector?..lol..the choice was taken away from me at a young age, it turns out..i always saw that as God reaffirming my feeling about it?...its great for those who want it, i just never did....
 1lonelymama

Joined: 12/26/2006
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Posted: 9/19/2007 8:11:11 AM
i myself have 3 beautiful kids. i would not trade them in for the world but i understand how some people would not want kids. it is a personal choice. it is not easy raising kids and i raised 3 of them all by myself and it is hard. but they are also wonderful and they have bought me much joy. i raised them to be respectful and thoughful. not easy in today's world. but not everyone has the energy or the perspective so i do not fault them.
 lancer525

Joined: 3/14/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 11:32:36 AM
"Princess Leigh" wrote:

your right... your not fit to be a mom... that is fine... ffs... stop calling beautiful babies brats.... snotting what ever.... you were one once... be grateful your parents coped with you and respect that...
yes some people like you should not have the gift of children and be lonely in old age...that is your choice not to have family... but don't grow up like my aunt when you get old and resent that you have no one who loves you... cause you will.... all of a sudden you will be in your 60's... no children or grand babies... no family and feel sorry for yourself .... no sympathy... you don't want children... fine... don't knock normal people who think of the future.... children are gods gifts... you were when you were born.... respect that and stop knocking normal people for wanting a normal family life of love


Oh please... Who the he!! gave you the right to spout off such hateful and supercilious nonsense at someone else who is obviously more responsible than you are. Children are not a "gift". They are a lifetime commitment and responsibility that some smart people choose not to undertake.

You do the same exact thing that the John Birchers of the world do. As soon as someone disagrees with your way of thinking, you minimize, marginalize, trivialize, and castigate them. You declare that they are somehow wrong or abnormal, or misguided. Where do you get off saying that people with children are normal, and indirectly saying that people who choose to not have children are abnormal?

You need to close that mouth, take a step back, and stop trying to impose your warped and twisted sense of morality on everyone else. You get to decide for YOU and you alone. You do NOT get to decide for anyone else. Period. No way, no how, not at all.
 sheteddy

Joined: 11/28/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 11:42:07 AM
In the past, met 2 guys like that. One in his 40's and the other in his 50's. Come to find out they were bi-polar and just could not handle that kind of situation. Come to think of it, neither had ever married either. go figure.
 El_Mariachi

Joined: 4/21/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 11:43:21 AM

I really don't think they are selfish, but, how can they resist their most primal instinct...which is to pro-create?


For starters.. not EVERYONE believes that our only real purpose is to pro-create. If it were, we'd all actually have that instinct. I don't and I don't think I ever did.

I'm completely uninterested in it. We;re not supposed to be able to ignore our instincts generally.. so that theory is flawed.
 Lil Pimping

Joined: 10/24/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 11:55:27 AM
I do not have children because I could not have them...it is sad but true, my first question to God once I get there...why??? So for me it was not a choice it just is. I wanted to be a foster parent but my husband of 21 years did not want to, so I became the crazy dog lady, and they are my fur kids! =)
I would love to meet someone that has children not to even try to take the place of mommy but kids are the bomb, they are so full of life, love and just make me smile always.
By the way I have about 15 God children that love me to death and I like to think I had my hand in help raising them, so maybe thats why I did not have any of my own, I needed to be there for someone else's child?
 tomozzo

Joined: 6/19/2006
Msg: 371
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Posted: 12/2/2007 12:10:21 PM
i did not have children for these reasons....

1. i had a vasectomy in my 20's because i didn't want to have children out of marriage.
2. the long term women in my life already had children and wanted no more.
3. i didn't think i had the parental tools to be a really great father.
4. i saw a few of the children my friends had and some of them were wild indians/criminals and others were great. i was afraid that no matter what i taught my own children they would turn into something that i would'nt be proud of.

so after all these long term relationships here i sit at 55 years old with no children.
i just never had my vasectomy reversed. so far i do not regret it. at times i wonder what if....
 El_Mariachi

Joined: 4/21/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 12:24:11 PM
Thank you lil pimping...

Yet another reason our sole purpose can't possibly be to pro-create. If it were, we'd all be able to do so.
 trixsterjl

Joined: 7/11/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 12:29:12 PM
I'm 36 and couldn't have afforded children when I was younger. Should it be held against me that I did the responsible thing and didn't have a bunch of kids I can not support and was not emmotionaly ready to raise. Ya I think I'd be a great father now but I don't really want kids around the house when i'm 56. Shrug I guess if I met a great woman and we got married and she really wanted a kid or two I probly would probly be overjoyed with the prospect, but just not wanting kids is not a crime. If you have kids and he/she does not want them around that's an entired different issue.


joe
 Cort1295

Joined: 12/26/2006
Msg: 374
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Posted: 12/2/2007 1:08:52 PM
gosh I am sounding so wrong..... forgive me... if you are happy in you pension years with no family then ... hey... good on you,..... I just love the thought that I have improved and grown my family..... so sorry you all think that is wrong.... but I know I have a future family.... is that so wrong?????????????


Nice 180,

No one is saying you're wrong for wanting a family. They are saying there is nothing wrong with not wanting one, or not enjoying the company of children. There's a difference...
 superteach

Joined: 2/22/2007
Msg: 375
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Posted: 12/2/2007 1:18:22 PM
I think it's totally SELFISH to say you "want" kids (which, by the way, are baby goats - the proper term is "children"). Since when should it be about WANTING? What a consumer society we live in. If a person can say, "I will bring a child into this world knowing what a terrible place it is, and that there are far too many humans for this planet to support as it is, because I feel confident that my development will allow this child a better chance than most have" - THAT person, I think, should have the *right* to conceive.

I teach. I love children. But I think the way people go about reproducing these days is pretty insane. If I choose to raise a child, it will be one who needs a home because he/she is already here and doesn't have one. And I've felt this way since I was 18.
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