Isn't it rather embarrasing to say things that are demonstrably false in public?

What is the United States national gas tax rate?
The United States federal excise tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents per gallon (cpg) and 24.4 cents per gallon (cpg) for diesel fuel. On average, as of April 2012, state and local taxes add 31.1 cents to gasoline and 30.2 cents to diesel for a total US average fuel tax of 49.5 cents (cpg) per gallon for gas and 54.6 cents per gallon (cpg) for diesel.

I am sure it is but I would know why don't you tell me?

You might want to stay off the liberal web sites they tend to embellish!

The fact is the government still makes more off a gallon of gas than the oil companies yet you liberals want the US people to be mad at the oil companies.

The government makes more than the oil companies. yet you liberals want the government to run the energy sector?!?!?!?

Even your site has proved what I said. Even if I did invert the state and federal numbers the facts is both make more than the oil companies you try and demonize!

So, I guess Bush was a liberal, considering he did nothing to roll back the taxes...he being an oil man and everything. And I guess we should just let all the roads turn back to grass, since you hate them and don't want to fund them.

Then you could leave the taxes alone and the revenues would increase because people will buy more gallons at that price

Again, how is what you posted any different than what I orginally said? Taxes on gas has not changed in two decades, do you dispute that?

Oh, so I guess gas taxes came down since last year....would you blame that on Obama?

http://www.commonsensejunction.com/notes/gas-tax-rate.html

Sure, if you don't count the salaries they pay themselves, or don't consider the money they spend to lobby our congress. The profits are most likely (not sure, OV?) net, not gross.

So actually I am promoting making more revenue for the roads.

So I guess you are admitting lying when you said this in message #622

The profits are figured off a cents per gallon profit just like the taxes are.

Actually no. Highway funds (taxes) for roads are pegged at the amount of gas sold, but it doesn't help if less gas is sold at higher prices.

How could I be saying that if what you posted and what I posted are virtually identical? But that's okay, you can ignore it because it makes you incorrect

Oh, so I guess gas taxes came down since last year....would you blame that on Obama?

Again, how is what you posted any different than what I orginally said? Taxes on gas has not changed in two decades, do you dispute that?

You obviously flunked economics. profits are figured out after all expenses have been deducted. But I asked for clarification on whether it was gross or net for a reason, so that I wouldn't be making sh*t up.

OMG!!! So you are on here advocating for a dictatorship..am I hearing you correctly? Despite the Citizens United decision, corporations are NOT people, they do not breath, they do not have a heartbeat, they do not have a conscience, they are a profit making entity..pure and simple.

That they are allowed to spend corporate funds to influence elections, or a $100 million through and on lobbyists, to influence legislation that governs them, is a perversion of the system of ONE man, ONE vote! Please anybody show me a vote in an election, made by a corporation?

"You mean like the big labor unions do?"

Frankly speaking, I don't think the labor unions belong in politics either! Any entity with almost unlimited capital, whether they be wealthy individuals, unions, corporations should be limited in their financial support of any candidate that runs for office.

The problem is always the same, it leads to a perversion of the voting mandate of a government for and by the people.

Do you advocate that unions are evil? I assume you flunked history as well. Unions shortened the work week, to a reasonable amount of hours and days, before that, they could demand 12 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week. Unions created worker safety rules, such as not locking them in at work, like in the Manhattan Shirt Company, where 40+ people, mostly teenage women, died in a tragic fire, or child labor laws, so children below a certain age could not employed to risk their lives before they began. Or the largest mass murderer in our nations history, the railroads, who's labor practices slaughtered 150,000 building the transcontinental railroad.

Now that's not to say(not unlike their corporate brethren) they are not capable of stupid or bad things. Paying some guy $18-19 an hour to sweep out a plant, makes no sense. Neither does paying him minimum wage so he can't afford to live. That some unions have become big business, is no better than corporate abuse either. A union leader who runs a union and makes 500K or 1 million a year to represent, men who make 50K a year or a little more is wrong.

But such is the state of greed in mankind..

But I get it, you are just one of those, who buys the BS, fox dishes out...come to think of it..we should be turning that idiotic phrase back on you, about the kool aid!

Energy: When gas prices hit $4 a gallon in 2008, candidate Barack Obama said it was due to previous failed energy policies. Now that prices are heading still higher, President Obama calls it progress.

Already, pump prices are higher than they've been in previous years, suggesting they will top $4 soon and possibly reach an unprecedented $5 this summer.

President Obama is starting to notice the political implications. So he sent Robert Gibbs — now a top campaign adviser — out to tell the public not to worry.

"Just on Friday, the Department of the Interior issued permits that will expand our exploration in the Arctic," Gibbs said Sunday. "Our domestic oil production is at an eight-year high, and our use of foreign oil is at a 16-year low. So we're making progress."

"Progress" isn't exactly how Obama described the country's energy picture in 2008, when gas prices were closing in on $4 a gallon. Then, it was a clear sign of "Washington's failure to lead on energy," which was "turning the middle-class squeeze into a devastating vise-grip for millions of Americans."

"For the well-off in this country," Obama said in May 2008, "high gas prices are mostly an annoyance, but to most Americans they're a huge problem, bordering on a crisis."

In August that year, he declared rising energy costs to be "one of the most dangerous and urgent threats this nation has ever faced" and that gas prices "are wiping out paychecks and straining businesses."

While Gibbs is right that domestic production has climbed in the past three years, Obama's policies had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

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Oil coming from offshore wells was in the pipeline, so to speak, during the Clinton and Bush years, when those permits were issued. And the oil pouring out of North Dakota is the result of drilling on private lands.

Obama, in fact, has made it clear for years that he has no real interest in boosting domestic production.

When President Bush announced plans in 2008 to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling, Obama dismissed it, saying "it would merely prolong the failed energy policies we have seen from Washington for 30 years."

"Offshore drilling," he said, "would not lower gas prices today, it would not lower gas prices next year and it would not lower gas prices five years from now."

In a big energy speech he gave in August 2008, Obama argued that "if we opened up and drilled on every single square inch of our land and our shores, we would still find only 3% of the world's oil reserves."

And while in office, Obama's done everything he can to limit production — slow-walking offshore permits, killing the Keystone XL pipeline, making it even harder to get oil out of federal lands.

Instead of aggressively expanding oil production, he offered a set of ridiculous alternatives — hugely wasteful "green" energy subsidies, a call for a million electric cars by 2014 and costly fuel economy mandates that won't make a dent in consumption for decades.

With gas prices up 93% since Obama took office, we're seeing just how well this approach works.

The more I think of this, the more I think it is genius!!

The POINT that you have so blissfully missed, is that the amount of money donated by large PAC's and unions's and other large entities would be reduced to a small amount, but to realize that point, would take the ability to do some minor math and have the ability to conceptualize, so I understand why you say what you do.

You do know that amounts over a certain number have to be tracked as to who donated them now, don't you?

By the way, I am talking about elections in the USA, not Canada, which may be part of the reason for your confused state.

Finally pal, I'm still waiting on that government website on drilling restrictions you alledge are in place...

As we say in NYC, where I am from...PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!!

What'd be wrong with putting more diesel engines in vehicles? Diesel is more expensive but I think diesels get better mileage? I'm not sure about that but here is where I'm going.

I read, and saw some folks making a type of biodiesel out of algae. One guy was using sewage water to grow this algae. This stuff had more raw oil pound for pound in it than soybeans and other type of vegetable oil seedcrops used to produce biodiesel. Geez, I would think some entrepreneur out there would be able to combine biodiesel and the corn ethanol gasoline additives to possibly come up with a diesel that would be cold weather friendly?

These algae feedstocks could possibly be refined in our present refineries as would petroleum based diesel is currently? Saving having to use crude oil based feedstocks for the making of diesel?

I have a lot of question marks above because it's just an idea and I'm not even sure if it'll work. I work in refineries and I know a suitable feedstock, now crudeoil is needed. The algae idea is just another renewable source that could be used to make diesel.

No you said in post #622 obozo had lowered the gas taxes then in post #624 you said the taxes had not changed in two decades.

The US consumed about 142 billion gallons of gas in 2011. The federal government collected $0.39 a gallon.

Does it matter if it is net or gross? It is still their money and they can spend it anyway they choose.

This too I agree on some nuclear plants I work in the pay starts at $22.00 per hour to build scaffolds at others I make over $75.00 to do the same job.
So why is this?

It is according to how much the union can strong arm the company.

I posted that Federal Gas Tax is actuallly $0.18 a gallon in 2012.

If both of those comments were true, then it would have meant the federal gas tax actually went down in 2012 which I was trying to point out, but since you were wrong, it was actuallly idental both years.

If both comments were actually true, then it would have meant that Federal Gas Tax

Even if I did invert the state and federal numbers the facts is both make more than the oil companies you try and demonize!