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 designingwoman
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I now have a Yaris, and am glad I have that bugger With gas being so high I am glad I traded in the old Saab for the Yaris. Gas mileage is far more important these days!! If I can stick it to Big Oil by driving an ugly hatchback so be it
 jmarquise
Joined: 1/27/2008
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are the gas prices killing you yet
Posted: 4/14/2008 5:39:50 PM
hey, barack can lower gas prices. it has nothing to do with the global market!
 Michey63
Joined: 8/19/2007
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Posted: 4/14/2008 10:18:32 PM
LOL...I thought this was a current thread but it is almost 3 years old. If the gas prices didn't kill you then, they surely will now.
 Topgear1
Joined: 10/21/2007
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Posted: 4/15/2008 1:21:07 PM
Ouch!

Oil per barrel trading for $113.79 today...
 xlr8ingmargo
Joined: 1/4/2011
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Posted: 3/3/2011 7:38:13 AM
Gas prices are killing me. Its $3.29 a gallon right now where I live and its suppose to hit $3.50 within the next week.

Anyone have any concrete suggestions as to how we may all save gas other than not driving their own vehicles and car pools? I already walk every where I possibly can.
I dont take my usual trips to the beach or to where I used to live (both two hours away). I have been staying home and organized work outs with neighbors instead of going to the gym.
 UglyFroggieCritter
Joined: 8/21/2010
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Posted: 3/3/2011 7:49:07 AM
On average, Islanders (Prince Edward Island, Canada) are now paying $1.15 per litre. That's roughly $4.36 per gallon (1 US gallon equals 3.79 litres).

I don't have a car. I walk. Or use public transit (which unfortunately sucks here, but I deal with it). I'll get a bike in the spring. I'll pitch in gas money when travellling with friends or family.

It's about all you can do.

edit to add: Gas prices vary province to province in Canada. PEI's third lowest, only Alberta $1.07 and Manitoba $1.13 are lower. Newfoundland and Labrador are at the high end $1.29 with Quebec and the Northwest Territories at $1.28
 ferfoxache
Joined: 2/4/2011
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Posted: 3/3/2011 10:15:52 AM
I wonder how many jobs offer a company car anymore, where they pay for all gas and maintenance.
 Ska_Voovie
Joined: 10/26/2009
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Posted: 3/3/2011 1:36:19 PM
local diesel price here in the UK today £1.40 per litre -
X 3.79 [for US gallon] = £ 5. 30
X 1.6 [for dollar price] = $8.49

thats for commercial vehicle fuel !!!!

yep - its killing us
 VacationGuy234
Joined: 8/1/2008
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Posted: 3/3/2011 2:54:58 PM
Currently, $3.55 and climbing...
 Twilightslove
Joined: 12/9/2008
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Posted: 3/3/2011 3:14:52 PM
Wallyworld was $3.39 per gallon. Amazingly, a local grocer was 10 cents per gallon cheaper. I filled up the car.
 pirateheaven
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Posted: 3/3/2011 3:26:53 PM
Use GasBuddy.com to find the cheapest places for gas in your area. Buying gas at the lowest price saves money and helps drive prices down.
 xlr8ingmargo
Joined: 1/4/2011
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Posted: 3/3/2011 4:52:31 PM
^^^ thanks for sharing that very useful info
 SuperFunGuy
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Posted: 3/3/2011 8:24:21 PM
I drive a 4 cylinder vtec acura, I'm 32MPG. I haven't noticed much. I'm lucky I guess, works wise, work's only 12km's away from home for myself.
 cookie22222
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Posted: 3/4/2011 5:53:06 AM
There were lines at the pumps in Jersey last night.

The Turnpike, Garden State Parkway, and Atlantic City Expressway, by law, can only change prices one a week - 7 AM Friday morning. Last night the gas was $3.08 - this morning it's $3.25.

That still sounds like a bargain.
 WobblyAngelWings4Now
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Posted: 3/4/2011 9:56:07 AM
3.49 a gallon here. I thought Florida was supposed to be CHEAPER??!!! I had 1/2 tank on Sunday so filled for $32.00 and topped off yesterday (barely 1/4 tank) was $19.00. I work too far to walk or ride a bike and the bus is pretty far from where I work. Luckily for me I car pool w/my neighbor who chips in for gas so it's not as bad as for some people...when will it stop rising???!!!
 raxarsr
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Posted: 3/4/2011 11:50:26 AM
i do hope you folks realise that its really NOT the oil companys that are raiseing the prices.......its the commodities brokers on wall street and world wide..........oil companies have a set margin of profit............they wont sell for a bit less........if it costs them $1.00 to make a gallon of gas....and their profit margin is $.25..............gas sells for $1.25.............oil prices go up........now it costs $3.00 to make the gas....they sell it for $3.75 a gallon......yes........bigger profits for the oil companies...........yest its still 25%

oil costs approx. $9.00 per barrel to get out of the ground......the countries who produce it charge a profit...........but that only drives the cost up to around $30.00 a barrel.......but the way the global market is set up............ONLY commodities brokers can buy and sell the oil.............and they take bids on oil still in the ground.......[oil is sold anywhere from 6 to 18 months ahead of time]...
 ferfoxache
Joined: 2/4/2011
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Posted: 3/4/2011 1:29:38 PM

i do hope you folks realise that its really NOT the oil companys that are raiseing the prices.......its the commodities brokers on wall street and world wide...they take bids on oil still in the ground.......[oil is sold anywhere from 6 to 18 months ahead of time]...

Futures speculation is not the only thing driving oil or gas prices.
And how influential speculative trading is on prices isn't clear.


ONLY commodities brokers can buy and sell the oil

Lots of professions require a license. Gun dealers, doctors, RE appraisers, hairdressers. Commodities brokers aren't a small scary secret society.
And not all of them do future speculation between brokers so much as handle delivered contracts between actual buyers and sellers. Most of it is done without brokers speculating between themselves.


and they take bids on oil still in the ground.......[oil is sold anywhere from 6 to 18 months ahead of time]...

This is for futures trading. This isn't really between buyers and sellers of oil and gas. Like between Murphy Oil to Chevron to America Airlines.
 plursty
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Posted: 3/10/2011 7:28:33 PM

Anyone have any concrete suggestions as to how we may all save gas other than not driving their own vehicles and car pools?


I received this email today.


TIPS ON PUMPING GAS

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California we are paying up to $3.75 to $4.10 per gallon. My line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon:

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.

A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. You should be pumping on low mode, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL. The reason for this is the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up; most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

To have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers. It's really simple to do.


Hope this helps!
 xlr8ingmargo
Joined: 1/4/2011
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Posted: 3/10/2011 9:19:19 PM
I have heard this before; was it you that may have posted this in the past?
I will make myself a note and put it in my car to remember! Thanks so much .
 shoulderlegs
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Posted: 3/10/2011 9:23:20 PM
I've always had a problems with the tip about pumping the gas in the morning when it's cooler.... I really don't know how far below ground the gas tanks are, but I was always under the impression that the temperature remains fairly constant underground, so why would that make such a difference WHAT time of day you pump your gas. Now, I can understand that there IS probably a difference between the SUMMER and WINTER months.
 karma1160
Joined: 6/10/2008
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Posted: 3/10/2011 9:44:25 PM
3.59 for unleaded here, propane is a whopping 2.59 per gallon.
Most of the money I have spent in the last 3 months, has been on unleaded or propane.
We have a train now that takes you into the city the problem is, you have to be on it by 6:15pm if you want to get home=western metro or you are stuck in the city for the night.
I want to try to get a new job at the U of M, in order for me to take the train, I will only be able to work certain hours. By car the drive is 1.hour and 15 min., if everything goes smooth, if we have a snow storm your looking at possible 2 hours of sitting in traffic while the gas keeps the car warm hmmmmm.ching ching
If something goes wrong and patients get backed up, and I miss the train, I am sol.
So yea this makes a persons personal choices that much harder.
So I am not sure what the answer is yet, but this puts a whole new set of problems on the table when you live in the country.
 a_lonewolf
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Posted: 3/10/2011 10:16:54 PM

A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps

Actually in Canada we do have automatic temperature compensation at the consumer level pumps. As well, 1* will not make that much of a difference, but if you want to go into that much detail, then you also should consider that warmer fuel has a greater potential energy release than cold fuel.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. You should be pumping on low mode, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

Then what about the fuel that is being vapourized in your fuel tank in the car? It gets agitated just by driving out of the gas station creating vapours. All that does is get soaked up in the emmissions system of the vehicle and dumped through the egr to reduce emmissions, not increase fuel economy.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up; most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

That is old school theory, back when they used to have steel storage tanks below ground they would rust and create debrit. Now with fiberglass tanks that is no longer an issue. Besides, that's why each vehicle has fuel filters. Again, will not increase fuel milage.
 SweetnessInFlorida
Joined: 6/26/2008
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Posted: 3/11/2011 1:41:07 AM
I just bought a new truck, a nice Dodge Dakota, and yeah i can feel the pinch. Magnum V-6 engine. its not the worst but its not the best when it comes to gas mileage.
I went into the dealership to get a small, compact, good on gas car, and fell in love with a big truck, go figure......lol.
Its not as bad as the minivans i have been driving for years, though.
I insisted to my husband that we needed a minivan, and once we got it i was like holy hell!
Those suckers can eat a full tank in a matter of days! When i have more kids though i will have to get another one. Until then im loving the break from minivans!
 shoulderlegs
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Posted: 3/11/2011 10:00:15 AM
I can guarantee you this.... due to the horrible, devastating earhtquake in Japan today, gas prices are going to soon be unlike anything we've EVER seen before.
 RushLuv
Joined: 4/16/2009
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Posted: 3/11/2011 10:32:01 AM
I must say that gas prices are the best thing about not being a vehicle owner.

I should be living in NYC.
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