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 Howard19633

Joined: 9/10/2005
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THIS GOES OUT TO ALL THE NICE GUYS!!! READ ME
Posted: 10/9/2005 7:49:00 PM
Well, I am hoping that women in my dating age group have learned how to identify us, it may have taken several failed relationships or a divorce to see who is genuine and who is not. Generally i think we are looked over, because the women think we are taken or would not find value in the, when we really are despiately seeking the very women who overlook us. We are also walked over and dragged through the fire, so yes i think some of us do give up. This is not me, I know there is someone out there, looking for me and I will find her.
 mrlonley4ever

Joined: 10/1/2005
Msg: 297
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THIS GOES OUT TO ALL THE NICE GUYS!!! READ ME
Posted: 10/9/2005 10:32:16 PM
hey i am one of those "nice guys" and i have been cheated on by every girlfrieand i ahve ever had!and never once have i cheated on them.if you think that the nice guys think that they should have more sex then you have never met a nice guy!ijust got out of a five year realationship with a girl who cheated on me left me twice and all three times beg me to come back and i did.just for her to leave me again becuase i was having trouble dealing with it all.
but never once did i ever cheat on her or leave her!i gave her three chances when i came back and when she left me i asked her for one chance to try and make it right after all that had gone on and she would not even concider it!so props to you nice guys out there but my question is where are the nice girls cuz i hzve not met one yet!
 christianbuddy

Joined: 9/29/2005
Msg: 298
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Posted: 10/10/2005 10:04:17 AM
Actually, I really need this post. Thanx!
 Poorgie

Joined: 9/18/2005
Msg: 299
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Posted: 10/10/2005 12:27:37 PM

Come on! Nice guy, Nice girl, Bad boy, Bad girl we ALL want sex! We ALL want a decent relationship. Am I wrong?



A nice guy knows it is better to have a good decent relationship formed before sex. He has that foundation where as a man that does whatever he wants has to eek out a life and get sex anyway he can.

A bad boy, see how I refer to a man as a boy? Will look for his own interest to keep refilling his need for instant gratification, since he got that taste or need for sex without knowing his real need for a stable relationship. It is a basic need, and once you have had a taste you should have formed a relationship a long time ago. Sex should be saved for meaningful relationship.
 cef

Joined: 7/29/2005
Msg: 300
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this is my story u ready for it
Posted: 10/10/2005 7:29:10 PM
i consider myself a nice guy i will do almost anything for anybody i beleive fully in if u truely love somebody then it don't matter what they look like it's what on the inside but i have been burnt 3 times in life by those so called 'nice' girls so i don't beleive there is any 'nice' girls out there i'm 28 and the so called 'nice' girls always ended up breaking my heart by cheating 'because i'm too nice' so i have picked up my pieces and i say this with love no more mr. nice guy until ms. nice girl comes along which i don't see that happening until i get tattoos and dye my hair blonde and listen to eminem and breg about how i just kicked some hard core ass yo. i've had so many women cry on my shoulder and say they have it so bad with their boyfriends or husbands and they leave them only to come to me to pick up their pieces and make them feel loved only to go back to the abuser the next day as i sit there and say y me i feel any man that hits a women is a freakin p-ssy in my eyes and deserves an ass kickin in a half but every 'nice' girl i asked out always said i'm a good friend and but they weren't attracted to me so i get the f---ed up ones the bad guys reject go figure 'nice' not in my book maybe at one time they were
 cef

Joined: 7/29/2005
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oh yeah one more thing
Posted: 10/10/2005 7:44:34 PM
and if its about the sex thing i can't speak for every 'nice' guy but i'm not out to please myself like the badboys r and i don't carry diseases like they do so surely it can't be the sex thing it has to be the lack of education that turns women on or the lack of respect they get from the badboys so 'nice' ladies when u get sick and tired of the neglect and want to be with a 'nice' guy that will treat u exactly how u want to be treated then here's a quarter call someone who cares lol
 NatGoat

Joined: 10/15/2005
Msg: 302
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Posted: 10/31/2005 11:29:16 AM
Nice Guys are Rare, these days...Y?/N?
I don't Want a 50/50 relationship....with a 100/100 relationship..the Sexx will be SpecTACular...and encouraged..Often..by Both partners!!!
....Searching.....


~ J
 The-Callebrese-Kid

Joined: 7/10/2005
Msg: 303
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Posted: 10/31/2005 2:28:28 PM
-to elec babe,,, there is an in between ,,,, its called the happy medium
-the one thing id have to say about me at least being the happy medium ,, id still get understimted ,,,,big mistake ladies ,,,, and good guys do enjoy proving you wrong
 angel561

Joined: 10/20/2005
Msg: 304
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Posted: 10/31/2005 3:04:30 PM
I am going to be 65 in November and dont look and feel my age - really i pass for 50. I have inner and outer beauty and proud to be who i am. I do know that there is nice guys out there but it is hard to find them and vise versa. Mostly younger men wants to go out with me and that is very very young men and it is a compliment for me but this one guy 30 wanted a relationship recently and he was so disappointed that i refuse. But that would have meant staying in and be his buddy and not go out often and that isnt me as i like to go out and have fun and i want somebody that i wont be afraid to be seen with me. I dont like to disappoint men but i dont want to be a mother figure to them also - you know what i mean.

I did go out with this gentleman the first time that i join over two weeks ago and he was really interested in me (41 he was) and we have a great time together as he said that he was single but never heard of him since and he was a great guy but what do you think happened - think that he was married and wanted a fling and he didnt get what he wanted that nite - have no clue. So there u go and to me i value honesty very much.
 LordByron

Joined: 9/6/2005
Msg: 305
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Posted: 10/31/2005 3:35:12 PM
This forum is nasueating. Seems like everyones searching for one answer thats gonna bring them to some profound revelation about their dating life. Its not gonna happen. Things can always be analyzed on a level that many choose to ignore for various reasons, mainly cause what we think we know about ourselves is often not so true. For all the nice guys questioning why it keeps going wrong you must first be real with yourself and ask yourself why are you "nice" to women. What exactly are your motives? Cause its interesting to realize that your personality develops in response to your desires. So the point could be raised that nice guys are manipulative and self centered. Doesnt seem rational.. huh?? Well consider this, nice guys are nice and i hate to say this but its all too real... because they DESIRE something. They are being nice cause they believe that will initiate a certain desired response from a female, one that will ultimately lure them in closer and closer untill ones desires are satisfied whatever they may be. Sexual or not they are focusing their behavoir to create a certain response in somebody else, that is selfcentered and manipulative behavoir. And you'll find it interesting just to consider the following.. maybe women have a prebuilt subconscious radar, and when they are confronted by a nice man even though they are not aware of it, they realize as nice as these men may believe they are at heart they want SOMETHING, and despite how you go about getting it, everyone has their own tactics. ***holes arent as selfcentered as you believe. They are just being themselves, they arent trying to impress anyone or butter anyone up, they are being real with themselves and those around them (of course theres always exceptions and extremes) And its important to realize that if you are born a man you naturally will contain residual bias towards females through millions of years of evolution. You have to stop picking sides people, dont label yourself a nice guy or an ***hole. In any event, when you pick a side thats when the competition always begins. Its not about women or guys being nice or ***holes, its about people being people, indeed many people are scumbags, the hardest thing Ive come to realize in life is that many people are just as confused or messed up as I am. Dont have to much faith in anyone, to do that is to neglect our nature as human-beings. For me, Im not sure who I am, I have a side that desires that intense Romeo and Juliet type of love, and another that desires hot nasty sex. Its called reality, we all have desires, and desires do not exist on a scale, you cannot measure them, they exist on a web and they are all connected and affected through a large and complex network of thoughts and emotions. Read a psych book, but no the answers are not even there, just realize that what all of you are trying to do is rationalize an irrational situation. Just be you, and ultimately I believe that nice and mean are just parts of the personality, but the personality as a whole is what always wins. Be a desired person and people will desire you, its that simple.
 Heffmeister

Joined: 10/25/2005
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nice guy vs. tool
Posted: 10/31/2005 7:37:54 PM
Here's a story,
I have been seeing this girl on and off for a couple of years. We are "on" and her mother decides to run off with her boyfriend and leave my g/f high and dry as far as accomodations go, we are 20 and 17 respectively at the time. Virtually without question I move out with her and get a small basement suite in a relatively shitty house. One month later she started having seizures and lost her job. The next couple years are spent with myself working in a kitchen washing dishes to pay the rent, trying to go to school and her seeing specialists to try and determine the cause of her problems. My family and all my friends believed that she was faking them, but I still to this day believe that she had a genuine problem. Then she becomes unhappy and I feel helpless to do anything because aside from working the two jobs that I had at the time, i was so tired that all i could really do was rest. I didnt ignore her or anything but apparently whatever I was doing wasn't enough. When she turned 19 she started wanting to go out to the clubs like any 19 year old. I could'nt afford to take her so she would go with her friends, namely one of mine who had disposable income. After weeks of fighting over problems that I felt powerless to fix, she breaks up with me. The next day she sleeps with, guess, who? Yea. Anyway so, living in a once bedroom apt. sharing a bed with a woman that "loves me but is just not in love with me" I agree to stay for one more month until the lease was up. I don't know if anyone here has had to share a bed for a month with somone that used to be "in love" with you but its one of the sickest forms of emotional torture that I have ever endured. Finally she moves in with her mother who has at this point realized the folly of abandoning her daughter essentially to the wolves, and I move back in with my folks. We begin seeing eachother after a period of about a month and things are going great until I realize that I can't stop resenting her for what she did. After a spectacular final breakup, I have ocme to the conclusion that I think I hate her.

So am I nice, or just a tool. To this day I dont know b/c everything that happened seemed right at the time. But that seems to be the way most of the time.
 knightflyer60

Joined: 5/31/2005
Msg: 307
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Posted: 10/31/2005 8:10:13 PM
sorry thats bull cause when youtell them your interested in them more than a friend they freak. hell with them all the ones that i imed and never got an im back hope they find their perfect guy. ah but let us remember they did once. and now they are on here looking for the same ashole they got rid of.or close to the same .but remember if your looking for perfect,do you think the guy is too?so good luck,and hope when some of the ladies find him (mr perfect rich and handsome)dont cry to the nice guys when he dumps you cause you have rinkles or start to sag or get sick.
 NatGoat

Joined: 10/15/2005
Msg: 308
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Posted: 10/31/2005 9:26:40 PM
adfork....
Agreed....They wonder where 'WE're' at...but THEY _start_ by hooking-up with the 'Macho', 'Bad Boy' or 'Cowboy' types...They get Abused, Neglected or Emotionally scarred for Life...THEN ask..'Why are all the Good ones Taken..??'
When _I_ find Mine...I'm going to ask her to write my LAST Profile...
Laughing at the rest, that passed me by....So Many Times!!!
...
 Sarge01

Joined: 10/23/2005
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Posted: 11/1/2005 2:14:31 AM
To the women reading....Define a nice guy......?? ..........Rich...good looking....big hearted.......good in bed?? Please enlighten us..
 razordaze

Joined: 9/20/2005
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Posted: 11/1/2005 2:23:50 AM
Tim Sanders guys... NSPS -> Nice, Smart People Succeed.

read Love is the Killer App. best biz / life book ever. if you're nice AND smart, you'll succeed in business, romance and life, and make the world a better place. we're far too networked for mean people to win anymore.
 Ceeker

Joined: 6/19/2005
Msg: 311
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Posted: 11/1/2005 3:51:56 AM
Seems as though people have not posted in a while. Since I am new, I thought I would share a little insite if I may? :-) I have read a few and am thankful that people have allowed me to do so. This whole nice guy/bad body/ nice girl/ bad girl thing is all something that has been made up, sensationalized by the media, and we've fallen into the trap of being hypnotized by this cultural belief. Just be true to yourself. If you try to be something you are not, only u will truly get hurt in the long run. There are many underlying issues for guys/girls as being labelled as bad. We don't get to see that until we actually have to deal with it. Usually isn't pleasant. If a person has ANY degree of self worth, they wouldn't tolerate such behaviour and move on. So what does this all come down too?
First off, what ever it is that one focuses on is what they are going to get more of or draw towards them. This includes what we don't want as well as what we want. So, we read adds that say: I don't want this and that or ads that have both, wanting this and not wanting that. Or only wanting this. Which ever it is; give this some thought. Without getting to philosophical, the universe always provides and can do so in abundance. So, get clear as to what you want from a situation, person, relationship and stay focused on that. If you get clear as to what u don't want, that is fine too but don't focus on it because u will draw those types of situations into your life. However, this starts with being honest and truthful with yourself. You have to be true and real towards u and everything else will eventually fall into place. If you start off with a weak foundation, you are only going to see your building crumble when it is at the peak of completion. AND, WELL ,THAT WOULD REALLY SUCK!!!!
Sort yourself out, regardless of past hurts and situations. Become aware of repeating patterns of behavour, partially as a result of past conditioning and break free of the mass hypnosis of the "ideal person." Create your own ideal and get clear with what you want and things will start to change. Last thing.....If and when u do get someone cross your path that shows signs of what u "DON"T" want anymore. Take heed in the warning and stay clear and eventually this will occur less often. You will see this clearly because your new found focus will be directing you elsewhere. If the road you've always taken has taken u to someplace unpleasant, chances are this time around it won't be any different. The torraine and vehicle might be different but the road still comes to an end with the bridge out.

All the best to everyone searching for the real thing.

Ceeker
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Joined: 4/15/2005
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Posted: 11/1/2005 8:04:54 AM
aaarrrggg i hate the endless parade of nice guy thread in this place, but i just cannot stop posting!!! aaarrrggg...


They are being nice cause they believe that will initiate a certain desired response from a female, one that will ultimately lure them in closer and closer until ones desires are satisfied whatever they may be.


Sure this world holds all kinds of sleazy wastes of oxygen, but you do realize some people are just nice because it is in their nature to be kind to others, and are not manipulative just because they have never expected anything from anybody but themselves, right?
 joshuafultz2004

Joined: 7/8/2005
Msg: 313
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Posted: 11/1/2005 1:25:13 PM
I'm 23 single and I think nice guys always finish last when I comes down to it all cause woman always find jerks and then then get sick of them and leave them for mr right when They find mr. wrong to began with. bye josh fultz
 NatGoat

Joined: 10/15/2005
Msg: 314
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Posted: 11/1/2005 4:11:30 PM
...I think that's what _I_ said...
I don't want a 'Career Blogger'....
I'm looking for a Real Nice Woman.....to be Faithful to, and Love..
. . . ANY here....??


...Still looking....
 Garf

Joined: 4/4/2005
Msg: 315
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Posted: 11/1/2005 4:28:48 PM
Thanks Ø...finally someone makes sense here, instead of bashing the nice guys, who aren't really known for fighting back to begin with.

Kudos to you!
 NatGoat

Joined: 10/15/2005
Msg: 316
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Posted: 11/3/2005 5:57:14 AM
...and...Fewer NOVELS....Make a Statement..Voice an Opinion..Toot your own Horn, if Need be...
....5 {Long-winded} Paragraphs aren't Necessary!!!
 nitemonkee

Joined: 10/24/2005
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Posted: 11/3/2005 6:18:28 AM
Here it is. I am a nice guy, but I do not think that the world owes me anything. I am looking for that special someone that I can devote my time to. Now I will agree to the fact that the
***holes get further in life and by this I do not mean sex. I thought about changing my ways hoping that maybe my luck would turn around. But I could not bring myself to be that way.
So in turn I have decided that I will continue to be a nice guy and to everyone I meet I want them to be able to say " Wow, He's a really nice guy." Personally it sounds to me like you are dumping on all the nice guys. So I feel that I have to speak up and make people understand that you should not stereotype or put us all in one group. I'm just tired of all these girls playing dumb games and wasting my time. I have my standards, and I feel that I should not have to lower them in order to achieve what I want. I know what I'm looking for and I simply will not stop until I get it.

So the way I see it, these "nice guys" that had cheated on their wives were not nice guys.
It's plain to see they were ***holes in nice guys clothing.
 blu_eyed_gal

Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 318
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Posted: 11/3/2005 6:23:03 AM
I'll define a nice guy for you Sarge.....no I can't
I"M SICK of these flippin nice guy threads lol

Fluck the nice guys who start this junk, who are really WHINER guys who want to think they're nice guys.
A nice guy doesn't go around talking about how nice he is for fek sakes.
A doormat does that.

GET IT OUT OF YOUR BRAINS that women "want ***holes"
cripes sake, they DON"T
AND they don't want a clingy,smothering, suck up of a doormat.

so if you delete the ***holes and delete the clingy suck ups...what do you have left?

A nice guy. HELLO

So if you ARE really a nice guy, shut the fluck up already for crying out loud!!!!!!!!!
 monstermike

Joined: 8/21/2005
Msg: 319
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Posted: 11/3/2005 7:39:51 AM
a good friend of mine sent me a em last night that needs to be shared.Cast your bread on the water don't worry in the end who benifits Idid what I did cause I loved her if she has a better life now because she knew me the best of luck to her.Just never ask me to stop loving her cause now shes gone.
 littletwin2000

Joined: 2/14/2005
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Posted: 11/3/2005 8:26:49 AM

Fluck the nice guys who start this junk, who are really WHINER guys who want to think they're nice guys.
A nice guy doesn't go around talking about how nice he is for fek sakes.
A doormat does that.

GET IT OUT OF YOUR BRAINS that women "want ***holes"
cripes sake, they DON"T
AND they don't want a clingy,smothering, suck up of a doormat.



#1 The Guys who post this in the Broken Hearts Forum are just that Broken Hearted. And That is why it is posted here. It was not posted in the Cold Heartless Bi**h Forum. Nor have I ever seen a Cold Heartless bi**h forum on POF.

AS to Women not wanting a**hole's.I have to ask you what make you the spokesperson for all women. Apperently you do not observe the countless hoards of women who left their good guy b/f or husband for a jerk who beat the holy s**t out of them or for a drunk that sponged off of them. I've said it before and everyday I find it to be more true. A womon will compleatly, totaly and utterly, destroy everything her path to get to what she wants. Not what she needs but what she wants. With no remorse over who or what she Destroys in her path and that includes her children;. sounds harsh but its true not to this full extent buand not all women but most do
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