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 Cautiously Fishing

Joined: 10/10/2005
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Posted: 11/3/2005 9:57:16 AM
lordbyron: How profound! Where'd you cut and paste that from?

blu eyed gal: You keep ****ing about these types of threads, so why do you keep reading them let alone posting in them?
 Toronaga

Joined: 7/13/2005
Msg: 322
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Posted: 11/3/2005 10:29:32 AM


I say nice guys don't finish last, they just need more time to find smarter women who recognize a good thing when they see it.


I believe that is true...... But!

Why is it that "nice guys" have to wait until they are out of their 20s for women to "wise up?"

Facts are, guys who use women, or treat them bad , "bad boys" never go home alone. it's a fact.

Girls want excitement and wild times, I get that.... BUT!

Too bad that most girls don't take the time to find out that most nice guys have a wild side to them, just dying to come out, with a tiny bit of coaxing.


 blu_eyed_gal

Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 323
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Posted: 11/4/2005 3:59:22 AM
littletwin..of course I'm not the spokesperson for ALL women but I CAN read.
I have yet to read a post by a woman on this forum or any other, saying they like a$$holes.
I see them saying the opposite. I also know NO woman in real life who says " gee I'm really in the mood for dating an a$$hole"
Re what you said about most women doing whatever it takes to get what they want, regardless of children etc...BALONEY. What's happened to you, can't automatically be assumed to be the case with most women.

Re the bf's beating ...in case you weren't aware of it, they don't start that on the first date. The fella is usually pleasant in the beginning.

Cautiously Fishing.....I do it in hopes that some men will not believe the nonsense about women preferring to date idiots who treat them badly. Happy now?

Igor... you can't look at it as anything you did wrong! Or whether you're a nice guy or not. You KNOW what you did for your gf was what any decent person would do. It also wasn't your gf wanting to be with an a$$ anything like that. Some people take other people for granted plain and simple. In the case of your ex gf most likely being as she was 17 when you started going out together, she felt she had to explore and live. In all probability it wouldn't have mattered WHO she was with because she still would have been young and the same outcome would have happened.

I have a 15 yo and I'd be very upset if she decided to become attached to any one fella at 17. How can she( or anyone else) know what she wants at such a young age? I really don't think they can....

toronga...just so you know, not all women want a one night stand with a fella who never goes home alone, or with any fella for that matter.
 LordByron

Joined: 9/6/2005
Msg: 324
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Posted: 11/4/2005 10:04:50 AM
Yes to the ***hole who made preposterous accusations about me "copying and pasting" my message, in the event that you are serious..i will resist my urge to insult you and will take it only as a compliment.. so thanx. hehe. And for future reference, I do study dating psychology, I would like to believe I know my shit but i do fall victim to the traps of love like any other human being. You'll be seeing me around....
 mr.classicchevy

Joined: 2/27/2005
Msg: 325
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Posted: 11/4/2005 10:34:59 AM
OF course no woman comes out and say i want a ass-hole for a boyfriend.Because words mean nothing.But a woman sure will go after a ass-ole.In other words actions speak louder than words.And that is so true....Back in my 20s all i heard from women they want a honest,hard working,drug free man in their life.But when i would show her my traits.They come up and say(We just MAYBE be friends)And that is a big MAYBE.Then you agree to that...About a month later she is shacked up with Mr.jerk...You know the type.On drugs,Abuser,Can not hold down a job because he has 10 Dui.s....As a result when i turned 30 i gave up on women.I careless!!!...Tired of all the friggin lies.The head games...I would say 95% women are like this.And every woman i came across are like this....And for the frigin women on here..DO NOT TELL ME MY LIFE TRAVELS!!!!YOU HAVE NO FRIGGIN IDEAL WHERE I HAVE BEEN!!!!!OR HOW I TREATED WOMEN IN MY PAST!!!!THEY CARELESS!...Just to get what they can get their hands on(WHAT IS IT IN FOR ME ATTITUDE) PERIOD. Who cares about you.IT is not their emotions they are playing with.So who cares....Just as long they can get what they can get their hands on....I have become to dislike women. P.s.I agree with you 100% mr.littlewin...It is so true.
 lisag1984_21

Joined: 7/23/2005
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Posted: 11/4/2005 10:51:29 AM
Well, I might not know as much about this situation as some of you but going on what i have been through in my 21 years of life I can at least talk from my point of view.

I have been cheated on, lied to, physically and mentally abused. Yes, I admit that i dated the wrong type but one was suppose to be the one for me....I moved 1000 miles away to be with what i thought was a great nice guy but after about 2 1/2 years I found that it was all a fake. He ended up making me choose college or him, made me give up my family and friends, I was suppose to stay home cook, clean and be seen not heard. We went through hard very hard times at one point we lived 6 months in a nasty run down motel. I would have ran to the ends of the earth to be with this so called "nice guy". He was all I knew and all I cared to know.
The time came that I got tired of being alone without any friends or family so I left and came back home where I now am. Well a few months ago I found out that he moved here to try to get back with me. Well the moral of the story is that no matter how nice they profess to be that don't mean their true colors won't come out in the near future just don't get involved so deep that you can't get out.
I am one of the only 21 year olds that don't have any kids around here, I'm not into the club scene and I don't party. I work and I go to school, I have one girlfriend that I go out to eat or to the movies with every now and then. I'm at a point that I want my nice guy when will it be my turn to have the happiness that I deserve. Not all women are bad and there are some out here that would love to have a nice guy to spend the rest of our lives together with.
Good luck to everyone in search of that Nice Guy/Girl.......
 WhatdoYOUthink?

Joined: 10/28/2005
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Posted: 11/4/2005 10:56:26 AM
blu_eyed_gal, you're going to encourage your daughter NOT to know what she wants at 17? Ok, here's the result-- you've TOLD her to "explore" -- which means get whatever she can get her hands on-- so she goes from guy to guy-- trying to find the MOST she can get-- eventually, she'll meet up with some pain and mistreatment, and when she decides she really wants the nice guy she had when she was 17, now she's bitter, 30, has baggage, kids, weight, and NOW she wants the nice guy she could have had all along?

Why would he want her now? (generic "he")

Shame on you.

A real nice girl is one that has none of this poison in her past. And didn't need to go through anything to finally realize what she wants. That's what nice guys want, and that's what they deserve.
 mr.classicchevy

Joined: 2/27/2005
Msg: 328
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Posted: 11/4/2005 11:03:46 AM
If he made you live in a run down motel.Then he must not worked hard or worked part-time at best..So therefore he was not a nice guy for you to live like that..You should have seen that..I saw that all in my 20s from women that claim they do not see that.Are they blind...When a guy that is in and out of jail.Cannot hold down a job.I would never consider that a nice guy..But most women would love this guy to dealth..SO DON'T TELL ME ABOUT THE MR.NICE GUY!!!!!
 blu_eyed_gal

Joined: 8/25/2005
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Posted: 11/4/2005 11:12:20 AM
Whatdoyouthink......I think you misunderstood what I wrote or I didn't explain it properly
I didn't mention SEX I don't think and I don't recall saying " get whatever you can get your hands on"....that's what pirates and looters do.
 WhatdoYOUthink?

Joined: 10/28/2005
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Posted: 11/4/2005 3:51:36 PM
I'm sorry, I may have exaggerated to make a point, Blu eyes-- but I know PLENTY of 17-22 year old girls who are just exactly that: Looters and Pirates.

It's my hope that by 17 a girl knows EXACTLY what she wants (character-wise) and doesn't need a lot of crap in her life to figure it all out. Now, that doesn't mean she has to DO anything about it at 17, but she definitely should be able to spot fakes, losers, liars, cheats, criminals, and the like, and be able to distinguish between them-- and know the results of associating with them. It's not something you have to experience to learn.

I hope moms are teaching values and restraint, and what to watch out for, and the RESULTS of choosing unwisely. People's undoing are mostly their own fault.

I fear that moms are encouraging their daughters to "get all they can." Even if they don't realize what they're doing--Especially the ones with so much resentment against men to start with.

The old world and it's protections are gone. There are no longer such things as meeting the parents, or a defined "role" of a husband and wife, nor a firm social order such as long courtships or long engagements to depend on.

Here's a little girl of 21 (above) who's already made bad choices, and will pay the price for a long long time-- if she EVER really recovers.

Somehow, we're not even becoming adults anymore until we're 40 or so. As if, nothing we do matters. We always get to blame someone, take a shower, and we're a fresh virgin again.

Wrongo! Someone made bad choices and NOW wants a nice guy? Too late baby. Even the really really really nice guys don't want the baggage, resentment, anger, and distrust that she'll bring. Losers stay with losers and nice people find nice people.

Anyone who has a daughter needs to let her know she's got one, maybe two chances-- to make wise choices. After that--- her chances of having a stable, lifelong relationship EVER will drop considerably.

These forums are pretty much evidence of that.
 Toronaga

Joined: 7/13/2005
Msg: 331
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Posted: 11/5/2005 11:18:40 AM


toronga...just so you know, not all women want a one night stand with a fella who never goes home alone, or with any fella for that matter.


That's not what I meant, get your mind out of the gutter girl, who says going home with always means sex? How about for a drink after the bar closes, to watch a movie, sit and talk, order take out, listen to music. I could sit here and list all the non-sexual things to adults can do together , but I think you get the idea. lol

 blu_eyed_gal

Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 332
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Posted: 11/5/2005 11:25:01 AM
Whatdo.....I don't agree that by 17 a girl ( or guy) "definately should be able to spot fakes, losers, liars, cheats, criminals, and the like" unless you've been expose to a lot of situations/people (not specifically relationship wise either) how can you know?

The results of associating with them yes hopefully they'd know that part of it.
It's not something you have to experience to learn.
15,16,17, 18..... hormones have more power than the brain...

I definately agree that most people's undoing is their own fault however, I can't help but feel responsible for the choices my daughter makes because it's ME who's guided her regarding what's right and wrong etc.

Do you think it's only women who have, at most, two chances?
 keith30

Joined: 11/14/2004
Msg: 333
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Posted: 11/6/2005 9:07:19 PM
persistance and hard work will always overcome its not worth it if it falls in your lap
 roxy222

Joined: 10/28/2005
Msg: 334
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Posted: 11/6/2005 10:40:21 PM
you know what that is a horrible attitude to have and it really pisses me off when ****es give good looking girls a bad name but you know what we are all not ****es and bad people so dont live the rest of your life thinking that
 lisag1984_21

Joined: 7/23/2005
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Posted: 11/7/2005 12:15:01 AM
Well of course ppl are intitled to make their own mistakes. Some are hard headed and have to find out the hard way. And i hate to admit it but yes i was one of them...the thing about that is I learned from it. Yes, my ex did hold a full time job and so did I but we just didn't make enough money between the both of us to enable us to get a place right away so that's why we stayed in a nasty motel. What I'm tryin to say is that this guy that I was with did whatever i wanted him to do. He waited on me hand and foot. He knew that we couldn't afford the finer things so that was why he treated me like a queen to make up for it. We both worked our asses off to get into the apartment that we eventually were able to get. The thing that didn't work out between us was the fact that he changed he let stress get to him and in turn took it out on me. I began to resent him for it so that's why we split we still get along and we still talk every now and then...so yes not all guys are bad some are just misunderstood......anyway, my life is back to normal, i'm over him and i'm moving on with my life with my new boyfriend matter of fact he just bought us a house and we are moving in together next week along with him proposing to me...so everything is going great and i hope that you all find that special someone that makes you happy....cause everyone deserves someone.
 flaboy32747

Joined: 10/16/2005
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Posted: 11/16/2005 1:37:20 PM
Well, I consider myself to be a"nice guy" and i hope that someday i do find a "nice girl". As for my experience though it seems that people like me just end up hurt bt the not so nice people in the world.
 NatGoat

Joined: 10/15/2005
Msg: 337
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Posted: 11/19/2005 2:37:39 PM
....Still looking for a 'Nice Lady'.....that wants a 'Nice Guy'....
Seems to be a LOT of serial Bloggers, here...and not many that are Seriously Looking for a good relationship...
...Prove me wrong...Let's Talk...
...10/19..4:38 pm...
... ...
 Eag1e

Joined: 11/19/2005
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Posted: 11/19/2005 3:18:12 PM
The problem is, most nice guys are overlooked because lately, i have come across women that prefer men that are bulshy, arrogant, etc. I could and will never be like that. Sure, i won't take no crap from a woman, but also i would be there for them when the time was needed.
 intelligentalman

Joined: 11/1/2005
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Posted: 11/24/2005 12:57:16 AM
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOME ONE TO SAY THAT FOR YEARS FINALY SOME ONES GOT THE RIGHT IDEA I MEEN GIRLS ASK FOR NICE GUYS BUT WHEN THEY MEET ONE THEY ARE TURNED OFF WHY IS THAT I THINK IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF A WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP ANY BODY ELSE THINK THIS WAY OR AM I ALONE ON THIS ONE
 ur_white_knight

Joined: 7/22/2004
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:39:07 PM
I cant believe u guys let this thread go on for 13 pages if u dont understand the point of it in the first 3 pages its no wonder ur on here looking for a date u loosers. give it up and find another topic to ramble on about. hope i was not to blunt for ya lol.
 molonel

Joined: 12/20/2005
Msg: 341
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Posted: 1/3/2006 1:04:42 PM

give it up and find another topic to ramble on about.


Um, they did. Almost two months ago.
 Batman1959

Joined: 9/25/2005
Msg: 342
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Posted: 1/3/2006 1:05:50 PM
Well said my friend.... it is fortunate that us "old school" boys still believe that respect, class, manners and loyalty are much more important than looks and "bad attitudes". I won't change my values...even if it means I live alone the rest of my life. I'll never compromise these qualities. Besides, such qualities will far outweigh and outlast those "bad boys" with their temporary "six-packs, and "awsome bods"....once these women realize that manners and treating a lady with respect are qualities that last forever, they will find happiness. Physical attributes deteriorate with age but class, manners and respect (like a fine wine) improve. Once these women comprehend that such qualities are far more important than material posessions, looks, etc., etc., you're right.... it probably will be too late. I'm far from perfect; I don't try to be. I just try to live each day in a loving, giving way...if I can put a smile on someone's face, my objective has been met. We'll find our princess one day...and as for those spoiled vixens that think materialistic posessions are the key to happiness...they're in for a very sad awakening. Cheers to you adforkboy!..and Happy New Year buddy!
 Little Lady

Joined: 4/2/2005
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Posted: 2/15/2006 10:53:13 AM

The little twig thin cheerleader types that I wish we could send off to a remote island somewhere - but that's a whole different thread.

These types can be nice as well. :(
 mikedanger

Joined: 4/13/2005
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Posted: 2/15/2006 11:24:46 AM
i am officially posting notice that i, mikedanger, aka dangerboy, aka mikey, am hereby giving notice that i am no longer a nice boy, (did you know they don't play rock 'n' roll?) but am now, forthwith, as bad as you ladies want me to be.... (see the leather jacket?)



........................w/ "nice boy" tendencies....
 NatGoat

Joined: 10/15/2005
Msg: 345
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Posted: 4/19/2006 10:21:50 AM
_STILL_ looking for a Nice Lady....
I'm beginning to think that there's Less than 6% Nice Ladies here...
...Discuss...???
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