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 gamjam

Joined: 8/1/2005
Msg: 27
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Posted: 9/6/2005 6:03:16 AM
i'm with you browneyes. there are many of us non-medicated, rational, clear thinking women out there. where are the men who can appreciate that
 playful4321

Joined: 4/24/2005
Msg: 30
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Posted: 9/6/2005 6:56:15 AM

i'm with you browneyes. there are many of us non-medicated, rational, clear thinking women out there. where are the men who can appreciate that


All over the place. Often nice guys come across differently on the net and in a first meet situation than they what they really are.

I am a nice guy who is looking for a nice girl. Honestly, seems like I am the only guy who would rather wait for a good relationship, than jump on the first hottie that says yes. But I know that isn't true.


sunsets are only beautiful...if they are seen!!


Nature is beautiful even if unseen.


NOW LOOK POINT IS...***holeS AND ****ES WIN......nice people struggle and search....we struggle with our insecurities...that build with every doubt


You got it partly right. They try harder, put more on the line. They win more often by sheer volume of attempts.

Not all nice guys struggle with insecurities. Some of us just prefer to wait to find the right one. Timing is everything, sometimes it takes a long time to meet that special someone.
 jazzmansmomforever

Joined: 6/15/2005
Msg: 31
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Posted: 9/6/2005 6:58:58 AM
I hear what you are saying.

I feel like a heel when I have a nice guy male friend, who I know would like to be with me, but I am just not attracted to physically.
And I am the nice girl to some male friends, who are just not attracted to me because of physical attributes.

I applaud everything you have said.

The dilemma of the sexes continues.
 LANGA

Joined: 8/28/2005
Msg: 32
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:03:13 AM
^^^thats no excuse not to like a nice guy. Mind you when you want to have a true relationship, personality and charcter most be the most important things. Otherwise it's a one night stands or some sort of short term common law thing.
 flat4

Joined: 12/31/2004
Msg: 33
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:06:30 AM
I know, I've been there. For any nice guys reading this, please, do yourself a favor and visit nomoremrniceguy.com... read it and tell me that this not all about you and your life. Here's to getting what YOU want out of life, love, and sex.
Flat4
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 GreatGuy8880

Joined: 7/5/2005
Msg: 34
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:07:08 AM
First off I agree with the nice guy thing but seriously your taking this way to far.As for the ladies saying were a dime a dozen, actually were not but we tend to end up with the "wrong type of women" then we get frustrated and pretty much give up the whole nice guy thing and turn into ***holes. Some of us don't but we care more about other things afterwards such as friends or our family, I choose to be with friends more then look for the love of my life or anything else for that matter. If you don't like being a sideline friend step up to the field and get in the game, let her know how you feel its called confidence if she doesn't like you that way and your absolutely crazy about her then you need to sit down and give your head a shake figure things out and try and have a good time. Go out with your friends and party just get all your frustation out because keeping it all in and writing posts about how we get treated so bad is definatly not going to help believe me we know or have experienced it. So thanks for standing up for us good guys and the only advice I can honestly give you is this.... if your pressed for time to find that special someone wasting more time on somebody that doesn't have the time for you is wasting even more of your time thinking about them and trying to weasel your way into thier life, it won't work so make your own life.
 Johnny Scorpio

Joined: 8/9/2005
Msg: 35
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:09:34 AM
I was like that but I cured myself. Women love jerks.. nice guys make them want to spew. Women are hard wired to be SEXUALLY ATTRACTED to wrong 'uns. It's just biology... a nice guy's niceness is seen as supplicating.. or manipulative. He can't win. Learn to be a jerk while you still can, even if it doesn't work, you'll keep your dignity and won't get laid any less.
There are many teachings to be discovered by various pickup artists such as 'Mystery' who's the world ultimate champion in Pick Up... he'll be making it with your gf in the toilets while you're ordering the drinks... all within 5 minutes. Find his writings and those of other Pick up artists and find out exactly why nice guys are girl poison.

or live with it.

gotta go... Elvis
 Wild Artist

Joined: 5/10/2005
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:31:51 AM
I must live in the wrong area then. I am lucky to get one email a month, yet I am a nice girl. My profile is up-front and honest. I am eclectic in my taste and have been told I am eccentric. I have met nice guys that just think I am too nice. Heck even some of the bad guys think I am too nice. So I can't find a nice guy or a bad guy. It seems they just like to look at me and not get to know me. I am the "twig" type, but not intentionally, a high metabolism runs in the family. All me say is they find me sexy, but when they find out I am a "nice" girl, they go looking elsewhere!
 Poet102781

Joined: 8/22/2005
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:36:49 AM
The best friend list sux, My whole life ive ben on it. It teaches nice guys like me to not make the mistakes the a-holes make. There is no good without evil. Everthing has a balance, on many levels. Thanks for givin us big ups. I've done all that crap, but use the knowledge to my advantage. Listing to a woman has its advantages.
 chewidude

Joined: 5/1/2005
Msg: 38
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:47:33 AM
Though I am no longer single, well said. Well said. Best of luck my friend.
 takeitslowlyok

Joined: 8/31/2005
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:53:17 AM
Girls / Women.......When you have lost a nice guy, you don't really know until you've lost him and then you hook up with an **hole.then it's too late......Its a 2 way street. We don't like doing ALL the hard work keeing you happy and contented....it has to be reciprocated......Just because we seem 'soft and laid back', it doesn't mean we not full of life....we are trying to see the real you..But you are too impatient and want it NOW ... Guys, sometimes it's nicer to be on your own....not too long though !
 gamjam

Joined: 8/1/2005
Msg: 40
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:53:25 AM
this is not some new concept that just appeard as i began to approach 40. it was the same way when i was in my 20s. i think there are equally as many nice guys as there are nice women out there. my only point was that it seems to be very difficult for them to find each other.
 playful4321

Joined: 4/24/2005
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:55:10 AM

Women love jerks.. nice guys make them want to spew


That just sounds like sour grapes...I find lots of women I have met only once fall for me. Even when I am not interested and try to make it clear. I am a nice guy....

The reason some guys (not nice) make women spew is that they are spineless jellyfish without opinions. Spineless doesn't mean nice. Sometimes they are just cowardly (expletive deleted) people, who would, if they had courage be total jerks.

I took that nice guy test. My score was 32. Claims I am a genuine nice guy.

Yet I have no problems meeting lots of women. I just don't meet the ones that interest me in anything more than a one night stand. Which I don't do.

I don't know any woman that loves jerks. To say that women love jerks just exemplifies someone who is feeling left out and trying to figure out why.

I'll tell you what women don't want...this should be obvious...they don't want men who run around feeling sorry for themselves. DOH !!! Get off the self-pity routine. It won't help anybody.
 100%SWEET

Joined: 7/18/2005
Msg: 42
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Posted: 9/6/2005 7:56:48 AM
I WANT A NICE GIRL DAMMIT!
 Pellaken

Joined: 8/21/2005
Msg: 43
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Posted: 9/6/2005 9:14:25 AM
I want a girl who I have a lot in common with. weather she be my physical dream or the exact opposite. weather she be nice or bad, or whatever. Those girls who say "all guys" this and "all guys" that are wrong. all nothing, no one is all anything, nor is any all right. no all. never.
 jazzmansmomforever

Joined: 6/15/2005
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Posted: 9/6/2005 10:20:03 AM
I am looking for a nice guy that I feel attracted to physically. And most men are too, or we would all have found the "nice" of the opposite sex. Because it all comes down to s_e_x in the end.
So, if u are a nice guy I give them a chance to meet if we are mutually attracted.
 TgrScorpion

Joined: 6/9/2005
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Posted: 9/6/2005 11:41:30 AM
Thank you! I want to accredit you my friend...to be the one who seaks up and says what we're thinking, and creates a banner under which we can all be knowing it's not just us...it's and incredibly unfortunate phenomenon.
 vanchisel

Joined: 8/7/2005
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Posted: 9/6/2005 12:02:38 PM
Oh, God. You are so right. It's been 4, going on 5 years. And I'm REALLY tired of being Mr. Nice Guy! It's time for war; broken hearts, "I don't give a damn any more", and "Who care!"
 Javodka

Joined: 9/20/2004
Msg: 47
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Posted: 9/6/2005 12:07:26 PM
Too true and well written. As a man who has been the nice guy and the assd hole..( depending on which ex wife you talk too..smile)

I agree. I dont do anything for brownie points, but it seems women talk the whole I want a good man and someone who is faithful..yet when a good man comes along their prespective of relationship, love , friendship and sex change. If we dog you out you stay..if we are loving and loyal you walk all over us.

No we dont want to be given the panties just because we are nice. We want the whole package because you see the love , compassion and real men in us..to bad you dont see it that way and get walked on> Then in your next relationship again you pass the one looking in your face to see the one who walks all over you
Looking for a response from Valeire chick and her partner in crime
Jay
 Venomous

Joined: 3/31/2004
Msg: 48
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Posted: 9/6/2005 12:21:50 PM
Mortiis is one of the best all out industrial artists in the world!

and yes Nice guys finish dead last, sucking in the dust of those who passed
 Jemue

Joined: 1/26/2005
Msg: 49
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Posted: 9/6/2005 12:36:08 PM

Oh, God. You are so right. It's been 4, going on 5 years. And I'm REALLY tired of being Mr. Nice Guy! It's time for war; broken hearts, "I don't give a damn any more", and "Who care!"


Unfortunately you are right, the honest girls I talk to and most of the guys who have been on both side of the nice guy fence agree too.

You can change the language to "a confident man" " someone who will take charge" "not boring" yada yada yada.

All comes back to 1 thing, the vast majority of women will choose the b***rd over the nice guy get hurt and then complain to the nice guys.

Guys you have a choice, be nice and get no where and used as a sounding block, or treat women in the manner of men the choose, easy really.
 daniel102081

Joined: 4/5/2005
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Posted: 9/6/2005 12:50:35 PM
All I really gotta say to Mortiis is, THANKS!!!!! I've been the nice guy all my life and have come across many woman that can be total b*tches, take my ex-fiancee for instance. Everytime I did something to "piss" her off, she'd ramp and rave about anything, especially for the little things like looking at her the wrong way, that would set her off on her war path. I've had a really nice lady in the past, but I was to blind to realize that and she fell out of my heart and into some other lucky lad's. I'm 23yrs old with a bright future ahead of me in the Law Enforcement career, thanks all in part to my wonderfull college education that I'm getting at this time of my life. It was mentioned that nice guys get about 3 new e-mails a day, well apparently that don't apply to all of us. I haven't got one in God knows how long. I send out messages to all these women that I would love to meet but none tend to reply back. As far as women being with jerks. I agree with that. Why is it that when a woman gets with me she leaves for some dumba$$, which in returns beats her until she's black and blue? She then comes running to me, since I tend to remain friends with all of my ex's, crying about how dude beats the living crap out of her, when I tell her to leave him and find someone else, it's always, "I can"t I love him." Why is that??? I am a real genuine southern gentleman with a big heart that treats his women with the respect and dignity they deserve. I've never laid a hand violently on a woman, nor have a ever lied or cheated on a woman. I believe in 100% trustworthiness and communication in a relationship. Anyways to all you nice single guys, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, and you ladies, look us guys up, we're waiting for the right one.
 Jaysen7

Joined: 4/16/2005
Msg: 51
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Posted: 9/6/2005 12:55:29 PM
Very well said!!

Thank-you!
You have pretty well put down details of my life in the last decade.

J
 Tommy31

Joined: 8/18/2005
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Posted: 9/6/2005 1:53:56 PM
I read this post and felt compelled to write my story. I have just gone through a few very diffciult months in my life. I was with a girl for 5 years. I thought everything was perfect. We were great together and not a day went by that just walking in the door and seeing her face made me smile. I would have done anything for her and had every intenion of spending the rest of my life with her. She always seemed to be in love with me as well. I thought everything was right and we had been talking marriage and I was fully prepared for it. Then one day I came home early from work. Walked in and found her in my bed with someone else. Seeing it literally ripped my heart out. She never saw me. Never knew I walked in on them. I just turned around and left. In those few seconds I was there in the hallway I saw everything I held hear in my life just slip away. I saw the one person I held above all others betraying me in the worst possible way. I was devastated. I went and stayed at a friends house for a few months. I made several attempts to put it all behind me and move on but being there I wasn't able to. Everyone I talked to always asked me about her because they had always seen us together. We never went anywhere without one another so it was odd to see me without her. Everywhere I went made memories of her resurface. I finally decided that the only way I was going to be able to get over it and move on was to get as far away as I could. I lived in Texas at the time and on a spur of the moment, unplanned thing I moved to Maryland. I found a place to stay over the internet and within a couple of weeks found a good paying job and now in the process of rebuilding my life. I left behind my house (which would have been paid for in 2007) I left her my car and everything we owned 'cause I wanted nothing from that life to bring back the painful memories. I got on a bus with 2 bags of clothes and $1000 in my pocket not sure what the future held. I found myself in a place that I knew no one and still have no idea where to go. Now I've got most of what I left behind back. Got a better job than I had before I left but the one thing I AM missing is that special feeling of having a woman that I'm in love with to come home to. Someone to make the long hard days of work worthwhile knowing I had a loving woman at home waiting for me. I need that in my life. Nothing in this world makes ME happier than knowing I'm able to make one special woman happy. I am everything the guy in that post was talking about. I went out of my way to do everything I knew how to do to make her happy and in return I got my heart trampled on. Was given the worst form of rejection a person can experience. Now I'm left here with nothing while (I'm assuming) she has everything. I'm ready to move on with my life and try yet again to find someone who can love me as much as I love them. IS SHE OUT THERE????
 Molly42

Joined: 9/28/2004
Msg: 53
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Posted: 9/6/2005 2:13:51 PM
you are totally right...

the problem is, you can't help who you are attracted to...so, SOME nice guys (I think we all tend to generalize too much here) are attracted to girls that treat them like garbage just who are attracted to guys that in turn treat them badly...

nice people tend to become invisible some times, especially for someone who wants a challange, which is pretty much what the girls who like jerks are up for...someone "complicated", someone they can cure of their evil ways, or someone who's evil ways they adore anyway...I have many friends who are like that, and I have many friends who have been hurt by "nice" guys...

forget the nice guy/bad guy thing....people are people, and no one is all nice or all bad, and if you're yourself, someday someone will see that...someone who DESERVES that, because when it comes down to it, someone who does not appreciate you does not DESERVE you, end of story. no matter how wonderful you think they are. I've learned that the hard way, and he was a very nice guy...
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