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 painted_wings

Joined: 7/22/2005
Msg: 80
THIS GOES OUT TO ALL THE NICE GUYS!!! READ ME
Posted: 9/7/2005 9:13:49 AM
I have never heard that many men **** so much, and i'm a girl. Aren't we supposed to do the ****ing? Anyways, i have to make a point.......if any guy ever wondered why women have low self-estems, they should really think back to themselves. Honestly not every girl out there look like jessica simpson. therefore men want someone like that so they can be all "manly" If guys spent ,more time appreciating what women look like as they are, then all you "nice guys" would get the love you deserve, instead of us cry, moping and being all misserable. And yes sometimes thats not the case. But for you good guys, make yourself known, and appreciate the things that us "nice girls" do for you. Point made
 sleepless_in_Newmarket

Joined: 7/18/2005
Msg: 81
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Posted: 9/7/2005 6:11:00 PM
What it all comes down to is this: If you want a good-looking woman, you can't be perceived as a "nice guy" however that may be defined. Whine about it but don't expect a change in the weather. Know your station in life and get used to it. Or change your station.
 joe93

Joined: 7/6/2004
Msg: 82
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Posted: 9/7/2005 6:25:47 PM
Amen borther! Too bad those nice girls you speak of are so rear. And even when one is lucky enough to find such a girl, most to often she is already in a relationship.
 sleepless_in_Newmarket

Joined: 7/18/2005
Msg: 83
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Posted: 9/7/2005 7:24:32 PM
appreciate the things that us "nice girls" do for you...


YOU are a nice girl'? C'mon. Girls like you don't want a "nice guy". Girls like you are badboy fodder. I bet you rode home tonight on the back of a Harley driven very speedily by a guy with one earing, two tattoos, and a scar on his left check earned in a bar fight, all the while being chased by police.

I drove home tonight in a Toyoto Echo going the speed limit. Maybe less. No earing, no tattoo, no scar and no cop.

You and I are completely incompatible! Our DNA probably doesn't have the same number of chromozones. LOL
 B00MER

Joined: 7/8/2005
Msg: 84
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Posted: 9/7/2005 7:30:12 PM
I'll drink to that. Why do these so called "nice girls" show no interest in guys that will treat them with respect? I don't know, I don't want to rant. I keep being told how great a guy I am, but that seems to place me in the "friend" column. I don't know. If you see a nice girl that wants to be treated right, send her my way before she gets scooped up by the next a$$hole that goes by.
 Hill_Valley_Hick

Joined: 8/31/2005
Msg: 85
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Posted: 9/7/2005 8:40:01 PM
Its all evolution man its not girls fault. Logic doenst enter into the equation. ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE. No amount of convincing will make a woman feel attraction for a "nice guy". No amount of compliments, gifts, loyalty or anything else will build attraction for women. It all comes down to confidence and to a lesser extent looks. Just act confident and tease women a little bit and they will be more attracted to you.
 redseven

Joined: 7/5/2005
Msg: 86
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Posted: 9/7/2005 9:27:41 PM
Well they say "Blondes Have More Fun" for women

As for men "**stards,Players have more Fun"


Nice don't finish last,It is last !!!!!!!


The next time ,your female friend is about to unload on you ,,,,,ask what would Playerman do??????

Gal what does that have to do with me !!!!!!!!Tell some nice guy that stuff.....I am not here for that ,,,,,,,,,,,,
>>>>>>>
What is that Shittt?????? Find women how want You !!!!!yes that want you !!!!!
I saw your pic ,,,,,,man ,,,,there are lots women who would jump at spending time with you ,,,,OPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPs ,,,,,,,THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE YOUR WITH THE WOMEN WHO DON'T SEE!!!!!! YOU FOR YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Find some new women !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for the rest of you nice men ,no more free love and suppport ,to women that just use you ,,,,,,and then let some other guy ride them hard ,and put them out wet!!!!!!!!
 hunter642

Joined: 8/21/2005
Msg: 87
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Posted: 9/7/2005 11:22:53 PM
Okay, everyone, go back and read what Hill Valley Hick just wrote. Seriously. Go back and read it RIGHT NOW. Done? Okay, now read it AGAIN. Sinking in yet? No? Do it a third time, or however many times it takes.

You don't have to be a total jerk to be attractive. I've been a "nice guy" for a while. I've found that a lot of women aren't attracted to that because a nice guy will fall all over a woman and do everything she asks of him. How is that attractive? Seriously. The reason that "jerks" do so much better than the nice guys is that they give off a sense of confidence that your average nice guy doesn't. Women, do you like your guys with or without a spine?

If you're a nice guy at heart (come on, a lot of us are), then let it show. Just remember that women are attracted to guys that are confident and while the ability to bend over backward might attract attention at parties, it isn't the best way to attract a woman.
 painted_wings

Joined: 7/22/2005
Msg: 88
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Posted: 9/8/2005 6:22:04 AM
AGAIN....do i hear whining? Yes the occational girl loves bad boys, but you know something, a bad boy isn't going to help me pass math class. understand? If you ask my personal opion, i do like bad boys too the point where they show me a good time, but i also like a gentleman, someone who can escort me to dinner at a nice resterant. Its a mixed thing for me. So stop ****ing like an old lady, and appericate what girls give you, good and bad. you can learn from it
 Carissima

Joined: 1/16/2005
Msg: 89
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Posted: 9/8/2005 6:48:33 AM
ahhh the old "nice guy routine" *giggles*
We, as Ladies do realize there are still some gentlemen/nice guys left out threre... althought it feels as though they are few and far between nowadays.

Ever stop and think that there are women out there that want the exact same thing boys?

We, as both genders, have our good and bad points don't we?

Men are sick of the women running after the bad boys
& women are sick of the**** know it all players as well.

Not ALL women should be sterotyped as "not nice" or Not wanting the nice guys...because some of us do *ahem thats me* AND
not ALL men should be as well.

ahhhhh the life of dating.....fun isn't it? *rolls eyes*
 kenshiro

Joined: 6/12/2005
Msg: 90
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:11:42 AM
[/i imagine the sheer number of scumbags you (women)have to weed through to reach quaility guys...but unfortunatly by the time you reach us (nice guys)you already have formed the opinon that guys suck..and or...that are scarce....so you build up your fortress defense walls and hostile edge]

u hit the nail right on the head. if i had a dime for evertime i talked to a woman from pof with that view.
they always seem to be at their wits end when i finnaly get to say hi to them.
 Carissima

Joined: 1/16/2005
Msg: 91
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:54:54 AM
YES KENSHIRO exactly!
But it goes both ways. I hear from MANY men here that the women are beyond superficial as well. Looking to see whom exactly will give them the most (material and otherwise) before making a decision to stop speaking to the 20 males they are and just try to get to know one man at a time. It's disgusting for both genders here and out there I think.

What ever happened to individuals with substance??? looking for love? being genuine???
ahhhh it's becoming a "dating rat race" I tell you!

~ Carissima ~
 B00MER

Joined: 7/8/2005
Msg: 92
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:28:58 AM
It all comes down to confidence and to a lesser extent looks.

Unfortunately, it seems looks play more of a factor than people like to admit. You can have all the confidence in the world, but you can only be shot down so many times before you lose it. It seems that if you don't have Brad Pitt qualities (just used as an example), you don't even get the time of day. Now please, before you feel it necessary to call me a whiner, please think about this for a second. I am saying this out of experience, and I've had my share of relationships, actually have found women that are willing to give me a chance. But there are a majority out there that have no interest, and sadly it seems superficial. Why is it when a guy feels this way, it instantly means that he's a spineless whiner? Honestly? How can you pass judgement without knowing? Just my point of view, and now I end my rant. Feel free to commence with the flaming.
 mystery woman

Joined: 4/27/2005
Msg: 93
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:49:36 AM
I am so sorry that you have had such bad experiences with women. I am actually a woman that is single, real, caring and unselfish.
One thing is for sure don't do all these things if they are not from your heart. That is not being genuine. I am sure the women appreciated your concern and time but it changed you into a very unhappy and dissappointed person.
When I do things for people I am not expecting anything in return, I am helping because I want to. I am caring because I simply care. There is a point and there is a point of letting yourself be used as well. There must be boundaries always because people will always use and take advantage of as much as they can. So help up to the point you feel comfortable in helping without expecting anything and feeling good about it. But be honest when you really don't want to hear it or think that they have something to deal with in their own lives themselves. I am not preaching but am sorry that you have been hurt this way.
Look at motives behind everything you do. Take care my friend and hopefully you will find happeiness and someone that appreciates you for you.
Mystery woman
 mt1

Joined: 9/4/2005
Msg: 94
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:55:25 AM
wow - from the sound of things, if you're NOT bitter, you're the only one on this forum! Hey, the reality of the matter is that people are attracted to a certain type and when someone who doesn't fit their parameters comes along, a lot of times they're just too cowardly to tell the person. Call it God's design or hormones or whatever - it's still the way of the world, and you can't feel attraction to someone who contradicts what you are instilled with! I'm attracted to fair skinned blue or green eyed redheads, and will turn down a blonde "pamela anderson" type every time. Grudge? No - I am attracted to a certain type. Brunettes may also apply, as well as the occasional blonde who avoids the stereotype. Want an excuse? Sorry, but I can't offer one because it's the truth. I've often been referred to as brutally honest. Oh well!
 Chris1.5

Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 95
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:58:26 AM
I could not agree with you more. I have always been a nice guy, not an idiot though. I know & accept everything I do as what I want to do.There are many women I would not date, or who would not date me., We can't have it all in life. I like being a friend to women, for friendships sake, just as with men(guys, you don't secretly pine for Steve c'mon).
Life is unfair, proven fact. We want what we can't have.I started soley dating "those girls" & found out they are no different than "all girls" only prettier. That kind of sucks.
so now I don't have any expectations etc, I might be seen with any women, if I like her!

As a personal note to you dear, I had the same experience. I married a "nice girl" who then felt like I owed her something. She ended up going crazy running me off, f'n every guy in town
THEN realizing she screwed her life up.
I have no regrets, I learned many things from that screwed up marriage & now I'm very cool about things in life.So I think you have a great attitude about life.Keep it up we need more women like you in the world.
Chris
 StellasGroove

Joined: 8/29/2005
Msg: 96
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Posted: 9/8/2005 9:27:39 AM
This really made me tear up a bit..

Women are heartless.. you try to give & give they treat you like shit..
I was hopin' it was just the black girls but reading this thread
seems it's not confined to race at all


What a FOOL Adam was
 Textaxlady

Joined: 9/7/2005
Msg: 97
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Posted: 9/8/2005 10:18:28 AM
Mortiis88, hang in there guy. All those girls will eventually grow up to be women. Some will stay just as they are, but the others will realize what they've been missing. There really are nice girls out there that want nothing more than to have a "nice guy" fall head over heels for them.
 StellasGroove

Joined: 8/29/2005
Msg: 98
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Posted: 9/8/2005 11:04:45 AM
^^^We don't believe you.. you need more peeeople

More people, you need more people, thats can't be true...
 itechman63

Joined: 7/7/2005
Msg: 99
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Posted: 9/8/2005 1:28:48 PM
As one of the nice guys, I think I can say this comfortably.

When reading Mortis' post, didn't anyone else hear a Budweiser 'Real American Heroes' commerical in there?
 naturescandy

Joined: 9/30/2004
Msg: 100
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Posted: 9/8/2005 9:19:49 PM

to respond to alot of comments here...

it would seem that most of the self proclaimed "nice guys" are 20, and the self proclaimed "nice girls" are 40.


Um... I'm 25. I don't think this is an age issue. I think this is a problem with lack of communication, mistrust, subterfuge, hyper-sensitivity and most of all, over-generalization.

But I could just be full of $#it.
 naturescandy

Joined: 9/30/2004
Msg: 101
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Posted: 9/8/2005 9:29:48 PM

Nice guys rule

The weak shall inherit the earth


First, let's remember that "...nice is different than good!" -Steven Sondheim (Into the Woods)

Second, the beattitudes state that the meek shall inherit the earth, not the weak. Though the difference is slight, one of the things that makes English special is that every single word is unique and important. In this particular statement, the difference between meek, and weak are extremely important. Men that we might consider nice, could be mostly weak, or mostly strong. The best thing to do is to be strong enough to take the chance that this woman for whom you think you feel so strongly, and who is seemingly oblivious or uncaring will not ever find romantic common ground with you. So-called nice girls are all around, and we come in every shade, shape and size. But we are not clairvoyant. You will have to tell us how you feel. And don't hold it against us if we'd never considered you in a romantic way before.
 naturescandy

Joined: 9/30/2004
Msg: 102
And for the record...
Posted: 9/8/2005 9:44:45 PM
I like the nerdy type. I love brainiacs who are slightly awkward, and very funny. I like smart guys with sharp wits and low inhibitions. I like a confident geek who knows when to be naughty, and when to be nice. Ring my doorbell instead of honking the horn and tell my grandmother she looks like my sister. Open doors, hail cabs, pull out chairs, take the curbside, run the plans by me- but make all the arrangements. Be an ambitious go-getter who takes no prisoners at work, but be soft as butter for me, nervous and excited as I am. And then tell me I'm wrong when I say Janeway is the most boring of all the Starfleet captains. Be nice, but be a rock. Be funny, but be determined. The problem with the nice guys in this forum is that they are sitting here whining like 8ITCHES (weak) instead of forging ahead. Some of you even sound just like the shallow women you describe. You deserve eatch other. 8ITCHLY men deserve to be plagued by 8ITCHY women. Why? Because you do not deserve better if you do not demand better. And the only way to effectively demand better is to be honest with the women in your lives about your feelings for them, and only tolerate what you deserve.

You deserve everything you tolerate.
 oceanmystic

Joined: 8/21/2005
Msg: 103
And for the record...
Posted: 9/8/2005 10:13:36 PM
Goodness is it's own reward.
OM
 ~softEDGE~

Joined: 6/12/2005
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Posted: 9/8/2005 10:41:54 PM
i am impressed.
great job!
bravo!
encore, se vous plais;
i for one, enjoyed insight into this fish's views.
most excellent post.

most eloquent, and bonus points for usage of,
correct spelling and usage of the word "ubiquitously".


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