| | THIS GOES OUT TO ALL THE NICE GUYS!!! READ MEPage 9 of 14 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14) | Ok Garf, you asked for it "nice guys=finish last (see like every other post)= drum roll please = LOSER! The winner, finishes first. the loser finishes last. So, I guess you answered your own question. Or are you agreeing with me?
Personally, my "niceness" has seemingly nothing to do with whether I get dates or laid or whateva. Maybe there is some other explanations why "nice guys finish last". Unless its just a cliche that has brainwashed "nice" minds.
Thanks ailurophile, I presume, since you are woman, you know what kind of guys you like? and who is carcross? | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 8:56:00 PM | | Hey Dude, I am going on 43 years old. In my younger days I felt and acted like you. Over the years I have refused to compromise who I am. (of that I am proud) I am the same as you. Caring, serving, loving, a good listener, dependable and always there for her. You are capeable of thinking with your heart and mind, not just your**** That's a good thing! What I have come to understand is that during all those years I was afraid to tell the women how I felt about them as individuals. If you tell them how much you desire to "be with them." you will have better results. It is obvious that your intentions are good (they will sence that) and the fact that you are not simply out for a piece of ass is..........what most of them want. The "****ing dogs" that stereotype men do well because they put it all out there w/ no shame just to score. Imagine the potential of a guy like your self that has good and honorable goals, like Love, along w/ the need to breed "so to speak." Shit, man you are exactly what they want and desire from a real man! So buck up and take a couple of rejections (by the undercover sluts) and learn to communicate your desires and live large, before you get old like me. You've got nothing to loose and all that life and personal relationships have to give to gain! Be a REAL MAN and learn how to communicate.........., Chef Steve...........Hind Sight is 20/20 trust me!! | |
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Garf
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Msg: 217 | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 9:01:23 PM | | Garf, when you say "excellent post" re the one above you, and I quote that persons post and use his info in my post, and you then say I'm "incorrect". I can only assume, you really aren't thinking well. | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 9:11:24 PM | | why are the nice guys so miserable? maybe you need to re-evalute your true intentions because i'm not a nice guy and i'm happy with the results. by the way, we ALL get the short end of the stick at some point or another, big deal. dust yourself off and try again, like aaliyah would tell you. i have friend that writes emails like these trying to create this air of chivalry and in the end, they are just pissed off that their self-glamourization is not appreciated in the way they anticipated. | |
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Garf
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Msg: 221 | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 9:17:05 PM | *sigh* ok, to clarify...
Ok Garf, you asked for it "nice guys=finish last (see like every other post)= drum roll please = LOSER! The winner, finishes first. the loser finishes last. So, I guess you answered your own question. Or are you agreeing with me? To which I replied;
That's your definition of nice guys?
If you finish last, it's because you're a nice guy?
That statement is incorrect.
Please try again. His post was excellent. Unfortunately, he's 24, and most women his age aren't looking, or want; nice guys. They do want the badass jerk for various reasons. He's not done living yet.
So what is your definition of nice guys? | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 9:18:36 PM | fishbill. I am so glad that I "caught" your note just now. As you are the finest example of a big time looser that THAT I HAVE EVER WITNESSED!! Small di-- and all. It simply matches your mental capacity. I would love to meet up w/ you buddy. A Biologist......... F---ing classic, as you have yet to develop past the pubic state. I suppose you almost (maybe on the 12 year plan) graduated from some wonderful State University. LOFL NOW!! Just ask and I will be glad to provide you with a place and time. Chef Steve......Laughing Out Loud Big Time Now! Man you are perfect!! Thank you for the Lab specimine pal!!!!!!  | |
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Garf
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Msg: 223 | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 9:30:32 PM | chef, I am glad you were fortunate enough to read my post. Was there some point I made or something I wrote you actually wanted to comment on? I am glad you are here, would you be my friend?
Please chef, only you can help one such as I develop past the "pubic state". And dont wimp out on us.... | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 9:41:04 PM | Hi Valariepainter, I wonder if your ex-husband had to put up with all your logical extractions and meanderings about people , behaviour and illusions. Imagine having to spend an evening being educated by someone like you in the finer subtleties of love and niceness.. I think I'd roll over and pretend i was dead. | |
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Garf
| | Joined: 4/4/2005
Msg: 227 | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 9:42:04 PM | Then why start, when you have nowhere to go, or nothing to back it up? Do you even have reasoning? Perhaps even a feeble excuse, aside from pubic comments that is.
Anyway, Bill...back to what we were discussing, before we were interrupted by the pubic remark.
What is your description of a nice guy?
Some nice guys do finish last, yeah that's obvious. So avoid that, because there's plenty of aggressive guys out there who finish last as well. | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 9:59:56 PM | Actually the real problem with this whole situation is that most women out there are so hung up on wanting Mr. Perfect that they are just unwilling to settle for what could be their Mr. Right. I mean women are so hung up on looks and money to even notice if the guy that they are saying is a good friend. If they're not all about the looks and the Money then they're into playing head games. I honestly don't think that there are any women out there who have enough sense to know a good thing when it's standing right there in front of them. I may be way off in saying this but that has been what I've seen.
Perhaps one day women will get over them selves and realize what they've had all along. Untill then I guess there's no reason to dwell on it. | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 10:19:38 PM | | I blame the romance novels for this. Women do seem to have higher expectations than normal and want to be made princess of whatever country. Forest Gump did not finish last, his girlfriend did and missed all the moments she could of had living a normal life. Mr. Gump lived a better life, besides the going to war part. But at least he knew what he liked in the first place. So I hope my simple example can explain my feelings. That's all I have to say about that. | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 10:30:23 PM | Agreed.....being a nice guy is a lost art, but that being said...personally I enjoy the evil side. ...sarcasm, making an idiot out myself and in general not giving a damn what anyone thinks...the nice part comes out only by sheer accident, thru poetic expression or random buying of flowers for some sweet lass I just met. | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 10:46:23 PM | | Cheers to the "nice guys". A lot of us are out there and we see the obnoxious over testosteroned guys that "win" this dating game all the time, just as the women see the stereotypically hot girls getting the attention from them... as fro myself, I know that some lucky woman will make me a lucky man someday. There are women who want to share in a relationship like I do, and will love me, and some wont-Im also sure ill love some and wont love others! so I end with cheers to the nice girls! | |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 11:39:36 PM | the proverbial "nice guy" on POF is anyone who thinks he is, and coincidently, doesnt have a GF and blames it on the fact he is "too nice" or "bad boys" get the girls. Uh, has he ever thought "maybe I got some serious character defects", and thats why I dont have a GF?
I looked nice guy up in the dictionary, and couldnt find it. kinda like trying to define "great party" or "good sex". But I know this, a truly nice guy will probably rarely if ever, mention how nice he is.
My real hope is that all these "nice guys" will go take a look at themselves, and realize it is no one else causing thier relationship problems. There are many good books on dating, sex, courtship, and relationships that any man who doesnt have a GF should read. Obviously on POF all the "nice guys" feed off each others lament, which is really bad information.
I dont think there are many books about "nice guys" either. | |
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Posted: 9/29/2005 5:36:09 AM | I have to say that I realy believe Fishbill has worked hard for 45 years to become a first class a**hole. You are a guy that for a first date you want the woman to open the door naked, and then you go to dinner. Do you always treat women as pieces of meat and only a f*** friend or only the ones you meet here. It is guys like you that cause women to curl up in a corner and not trust men in general.
I honestly believe that women are looking for men that will treat them with respect and dignity, whether you are a "nice guy" or "bad boy". Just ecause you are a so called "bad boy" dose not meen that you can't treat a woman you care about with respect. There are the exceptions, Men like Fishbill treat everyone like crap and only want to put people down and argue. If you notice he was arguing with people that had agreed with him. | |
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Posted: 9/29/2005 11:13:08 AM | | Let me put on my psychic hat and peer into the crystal ball..hmmaa..hmaaa: You probably think you are nice guy, and I bet you think nice guys finish last...hmmm...I see some more information that the future holds for you and all men who sit and feel put out that they are so nice, but cant get a GF. Have I seen the vision correctly? | |
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Posted: 9/29/2005 12:04:17 PM | | I would be very happy with a nice girl but the fact is out there and been proven that Nice guys do indeed finish last... so I'll be happy to finish last everytime cause that's just how i am ... | |
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Posted: 9/29/2005 12:52:27 PM | Get a clear head, here...then hear. If you are drawn to women who are themselves drawn to abuse...think about what is going on. The ancient Egyptian Philosopher King Thoth Hermes Mecurius Trismegestus wrote this bit of wisdom before the Pyramids were raised up: "The like takes to itself the like and the unlike never agrees with the unlike." Women who are drawn to abusive men are themselves abusive.. the biggest lie in the universe is that opposites attract. They only appear to. Abusive people are drawn to abusive people. Now you have to look at your own self. You are taking all this abuse from these women. What is in your soul that makes you want to take that abuse? You're filled with resentment and tiny hatreds towards all those women...even if you don't want to admit it. Really...this what your rant is all about. But you are becoming like them because each of them is a mental construct of yours and you obsess on them building them up into the form that you perceive them as having and those mental constructs are really part of you. You're in a feedback loop of abuse and women who really are not into abuse will not be attracted to you because you are like the women you obsess over. You want this cycle to change? Then forgive those women completely and pray for them and then don't have anymore to do with them. Don't think about them because if you resent them then you are obsessing and building up that form of them that is really you. The more you obsess the more you endow them with those properties that you don't like and in reality you are endowing yourself with those properties. Well over 90 percent of child abusers in prision were themselves abused as children. Growing up they hated their abusers and the more they hated them the more they obsessed and endowed the mental contruct of that person with pernicious properties. But their mental construct of others is part of them so they were endowing themselves with the same properties and then they find themselves strangely compelled to commit similar abuses. The escape is to forgive all those who betray your trust and who abuse you and spitefully use you. Otherwise, you are in hatred and hatred is obsession and obsession is mental creation and endowment of properties of which you yourself are the recipient.
Get free and forgive all those women and refuse to be drawn in by them. Then, when you have done this, you will be the very type of actual nice guy that a woman who is just like you will be drawn to. She will be filled with grace and forgiveness. Not tied to abuse...and not a woman who will abuse you. Charles. | |
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