| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 2/2/2009 7:14:06 AM | | Get a paternity test before you shell out one cent. Then I guess you can get another job, so you can pay child support. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 2/2/2009 10:14:54 AM |
yes he will get a paternity test before he pays support but his fear is that he is the father of a child that he had no intention of making and this young girl is constantly threatening him.
There are many things in life for which we must take responsibility even if they were not our "intention." The guy who has a beer before driving doesn't intend to have an accident. He still bears responsibility. If you sleep with a woman, you have responsibility for the outcome. The young girl is not threatening him, she is demanding that he take his legal responsibility. If he doesn't she can have the courts step in to force him to. And in my opinion she should. It does not matter how she got pregnant or whether it was her or his choice. He is an antecedent factor and his choice to stick his****in her **** makes him responsible. It may be an unfortunate state of affairs, but so is an accident influenced by alcohol. You want 100% prevention of pregnancy, you jerk off rather than insert. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 2/2/2009 10:35:17 AM | Your statement is rather ridiculous since it is contrary to nature. For the vast majority of birds and mammals including humans, it is the females that determine if there is going to be sex and the males are quick to oblige if the females are willing.
Um, which incompetent biology professor did you learn this from. Sexual interaction has a number of biological factors throughout the animal world. Females being available for--that is capable of becoming pregnant--is not the same as choosing. Males in many species are not going to hump a female who is not currently fertile and waste their sperm. In some species males keep multiple females and literally "herd" them waiting in each case for the female to reach her fertile period before HE decides to mount her. She is released from the herd ONLY when she becomes permanently infertile. Your version that "she decides" and "he acts" is both biologically and psychologically inaccurate. Only in those species where sex is PRIMARILY for pleasure do we have any notion of rational decision processes where one or both "choose" rather than simply act. Now it is true that if a woman says no, coitus is rape. Have you heard of rape? It does happen. So even in the human species MUTUAL CONSENT has its exceptions. BTW, if a man says no and is some how forced, that also is rape. Believe me, just because a woman spreads her legs doesn't mean every man is interested, even at age 19 when male hormones make rational decisionmaking difficult at times. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 2/2/2009 11:58:15 AM | Lost,
I agree that BOTH parties should be aware of using protection. First, I am not having sex with relative strangers. In fact, I don't want to have sex with any man I'm not having a relationship with. I don't do one-night stands. To me, sex is to be shared with someone you care about rather than just some stranger you might be attracted to.
Second, I was not saying that all deadbeats are the fathers. In my occupation I have seen many deadbeat mothers who never should have kids. They would be the "trash" who pop out kid after kid with several different fathers and no way to support them except welfare. I'm not arguing that the fathers should not have custody if they are the better parent, and I agree with your statement that many women would use more precautions if they knew that their child would be given to the father as soon as the baby is born. These would be the habitual welfare recipients. Some women do not have any maternal instincts.
However, with an unplanned pregnancy, both parties need to work together if abortion or adoption is not an option. As I said in a previous post, the only protection I'm able to use is condoms. However, if people are grown-up enough to have sex they need to talk about possible consequences. In my case, when I've started a relationship, I'm honest about that. While it may be true that'd I'd like to have another child, I do not want it to be unplanned. I only want a child if I am in a committed relationship and married. However, if the unthinkable happened, I am in a position where I could raise a child on my own, financially and emotionally. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 2/2/2009 2:21:58 PM |
First, I am not having sex with relative strangers.
I should have been more clear here. I was referencing the OP's situation as a part of our discussion, I did not mean to imply that you would engage in these type of casual interactions. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 2/2/2009 3:16:50 PM | | Every time you step in the bedroom to have sex you run the risk of pregnancy. If I ever got pregnant I sure in hell wouldn't be having an abortion. Abortions are emotionally damaging and especially at such a young age could scarr her for life. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 4/11/2009 4:37:43 AM | "Every time you step in the bedroom to have sex you run the risk of pregnancy. If I ever got pregnant I sure in hell wouldn't be having an abortion. Abortions are emotionally damaging and especially at such a young age could scarr her for life."
Hear hear. Her body, her choice. She lives with the decision she makes for the rest of her life either way.
Personally, I think he should "man up". Financially difficult for him???... come on! What men have to pay for child support rarely covers the costs of raising a child. And if he has nothing to do with the child he has no emotional and physical investment of time to make either. I say bravo to her for having the strength and guts to continue with her pregnancy. And... there are two sides to every story :-) | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 4/11/2009 5:09:26 AM |
38 yr old man has a couple of intimate encounters with a 20 yr old.
That was your first mistake.
Unfortunately, the condom breaks.
Second mistake.
He tells her to go get the morning after pill. She doesn't get it. He finds out a couple of months later she is pregnant.
Controlling much?
He tells her to get an abortion. She doesn't.
LMAO...as IF you had THAT right.LOL
Now she is threatening him with child support....with her family going after him....writing him emails asking him why he doesn't want to have anything to do with the child.
Yeah........I have the same question! And why wouldn't you think it's your responsibility to support the LIFE you created? Even if you didn't intend on that happening....you still OWE this child.Not her.....the child.
He is at his wits end because he is barely scraping by on the money he has and feeling suicidal. What does he do?
Uh.......think of someone other than yourself for once?
MAN UP! You wanna play........you gonna pay!
Wait until the baby is born,even though you KNOW it's yours because you KNOW the condom broke...and you TOLD her to abort it....but get a paternity test....and yeah.......18 years of DEBT for one screw.......Hope it was a GOOD ONE! | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 4/11/2009 8:57:08 AM | Back to the original post:
38 yr old man has a couple of intimate encounters with a 20 yr old. . .. He tells her to go get the morning after pill. She doesn't get it. He finds out a couple of months later she is pregnant. He tells her to get an abortion. She doesn't. Now she is threatening him with child support...
A couple of points:
1. What gives him the right to tell her anything?
2. Threatened with child support? It is your responsibility.
So endeth the lesson. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 4/11/2009 9:25:04 AM | This tired thread still here ..Did she give birth yet? Did he do what we told him to d0?
Did everyone get their Easter outfit and Easter basket candy yet?
Peeps now come in orange and green. Wonder how they got them to be that color?
Btw did you know their factory is in the Allentown area of Pa ? So is the Crayola factory. They have a museum too! | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 7/3/2009 10:20:10 PM | Interesting points all around..I think the bottom line is two responsible adults, MMmm? What about precautions? Did anyone stop to think about condoms? I mean people have common sense to pull down their pants before going to the bathroom, why not use protection when having sex? Does anyone stop to think about the other cautions? STD'S? Hello??? Unprotected sex is nothing more then sexual Russian roulette. And now you know the rest of the story...
P.S. Just so nobody thinks I'm a MCP, The guy is equally responsible for the child that HE helped create. He should of thought about whom he was pointing his pistol at.....
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 7/3/2009 10:29:26 PM | How I see it is:
I believe you said the male was 38 she is 20. To me that says it all. The man new better. No excuse. Sex can lead to a child, I am sure he new that....... Get the paternity test if needed but take care of that child... Don't be a looser... | |
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Posted: 7/3/2009 11:02:13 PM | "Interesting points all around..I think the bottom line is two responsible adults, MMmm? What about precautions? Did anyone stop to think about condoms? I mean people have common sense to pull down their pants before going to the bathroom, why not use protection when having sex? Does anyone stop to think about the other cautions? STD'S? Hello??? Unprotected sex is nothing more then sexual Russian roulette. And now you know the rest of the story..."
Why do you use the screen name autteacher when you are not able to read or comprehending the OP_Post?  | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 7/3/2009 11:28:48 PM | This post is four yrs old...I'm pretty sure by now the guy got a paternity test or either off'ed himself... There should be a four year old runnig around right now from that night of passion.
Regardless Sex, like everything in life is a gamble. No condoms are not 100% so dont put all your trust into a piece of thin azz rubber. That's why it's just better to know the person you are with and have a familar understanding and bond. Before you go hopping into someones cooter make sure u have a mutual respect and understanding about the aftermath of sex and the possible outcomes of it.........Meaning if you have a damn slip up you both better be on the same page as too how you want to handle it! That's the bottom line cause Carmen said so  | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 7/4/2009 1:47:08 PM | I am of the opinion the OP_ was asking for thoughts and ideas about what can be done when the when the protection and precautionary measures that were or could be employed ether failed or were not used. This was when there was a chance and other methods that could have been employed and were not.
The first precautionary measure which should have been used was a birth control pill, which apparently was not used if she has become pregnant. And yes I am assuming this, and I am aware there are a possibility of failure, and the risk of STDs.
The second tried and true method that has been used for centuries, the condom broke, an unfortunate and rare occasion that seldom happens.
The third recourse of precautionary measures was not with his means to force this decision but his wishes were made clear and thus so stated. The morning after pill which was her decision which she choose not to use was the third option.
Then there are a few other possibilities and choices that could be considered after this point which seemed to not have been brought up by the OP but I regress.
Therefore he is now stuck with the consequences of their action, an even that has transformed into an accidental pregnancy. A Pregnancy he did not want but a situation he is being forced into, that is if it is a real pregnancy, and IF it is his offspring.
So the question is not what should he have done, but what can he do now.
If I was answering him, which I did not due to this OP being posted four years ago, I would urge him to contact a Lawyer in this matter of possible entrapment (my opinion).
Furthermore I state that thought due to a previous experience may years ago I had an ex-girl friend try to pull the same scenario on me to get me back into a relationship with her.
I could go on about this matter especially those who stand and judge the situation with so Little Information but I do not see any point in wasting any more of my time to try to convince closed minded judgmental uninformed person to try to be a little more open minded.
Although I will put down again for the record, as I have it stated differently in my profile; age is a number and nothing more too some people.
My Ex wife was + 20 my age and I have had several LTR (Longer than 1 Year) that were much older than I and another that was much younger. Again, the age difference was never the factor for the relationships not working out. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 7/5/2009 2:37:59 AM |
Hear hear. Her body, her choice. She lives with the decision she makes for the rest of her life either way.
Personally, I think he should "man up". Financially difficult for him???... come on!
This is the second time today I've seen the modern feminism double standard applied.
Her body, her choice even though it affects him. However, he should man up and go along with whatever she decides.
Wait until the baby is born,even though you KNOW it's yours because you KNOW the condom broke...and you TOLD her to abort it....but get a paternity test....and yeah.......18 years of DEBT for one screw.......Hope it was a GOOD ONE!
You do realize this is the same mentality as those who think abortion should be completely outlawed, right? It treats having a child as a punishment. "Hey, you shouldn't have done it. Now live with the consequences of your actions."
Also, what's with all the people acting like the 38 and 20 thing was a factor? Is that what caused the condom to break? | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 7/5/2009 6:28:31 AM | | this is the SINGLE reason i never do sex anymore, sex is the same as death, everyone turns nasty after it... | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 7/5/2009 8:35:30 AM | Honestly kill her/seduce her and slip her something in food/drink that will cause a misscarriage, people that intentionally get pregnant (by not taking that pill) and then hides it for months as a ploy to exploit a child for money are the ****ing scum of the earth. The only people i can think of that are worse are child molesters.
Fyi to the dumb ****es who will flame me i wasn't sarcastic at all. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2009 11:11:21 AM |
Honestly kill her/seduce her and slip her something in food/drink that will cause a misscarriage, people that intentionally get pregnant (by not taking that pill) and then hides it for months as a ploy to exploit a child for money are the ****ing scum of the earth. The only people i can think of that are worse are child molesters.
wow, never saw that one coming, theres a interesting approach to how people act.. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 7/6/2009 8:29:24 PM | u have two options, leave the country somewhere very far away.
Take it to the supreme court and fight for procreation rights for men, then you could even have some input to keeping the kid if you wanted to. Until then, moving very far away or not having sex to begin with is the only option you have as a man.
oh yeah, if you can convince her to abort, adopt or whatever else women have the right to do. she has the all legal procreation options, u have the legal obligation. Even the marriage contract is no fault lol
u have no recourse or rights. I suggest u keep it in your pants for the rest of your life or decide to have children. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 8/23/2009 12:53:06 PM | | Well, it should. You chose to have sex, knowing this is a possibility. This is the consequence of your choice. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 8/23/2009 1:15:18 PM | | In order to collect child support there will have to be(as stated before)a paternity test. After that there isnt much else that can be done. The child either is or isnt his. I know in my state you just simply cant give up your parental rights to a child. There are several other things that need to be taken into consideration. The main focus should alway be the child. In situations like this they are the ones that suffer the most. Very ofter the child gets used as a "weapon" to hurt one parent or former partner. If she is harrassing you then file for a restraining order against her or her family. That too gets abused in the legal system. Either way take care of the child. Thats the only thing that should matter. | |
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| Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 8/23/2009 1:39:49 PM | It is her body. He cant tell her to do sh*t.
If it is genetically his child then he has to pay childsupport no matter how sorry a person can feel for him.
He accepts the situation and deals with it. | |
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