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 HedonistDrifter

Joined: 7/23/2005
Msg: 51
Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 9/7/2005 11:33:09 AM
she's too stupid to swallow a pill? are you, by chance, mentally challenged? so he has no responsibility whatsoever?

I think the first two pages of the thread show he will be forced to assume financial responsibility...Now the debates; the right to hold someone financially responsible for a child they didn’t want in the first place.... She is choosing to have it without his consent or input so he was basically just a "sperm donor"...Perhaps she got pregnant to trap him into committing…Maybe she just wanted a child…hard to tell

She has had some mental issues and been hospitalized for cutting herself. He didn't find out till after he was intimate that she had scars on her arms.?

How's the saying go? "If at first you don’t succeed...try....Ooooops.. (Not politically correct)
 squirrly

Joined: 6/8/2005
Msg: 52
Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 9/7/2005 11:36:08 AM
What if this man is a good man who wants kids but just wants to be able to plan and prepare for them?I have seen people thrown into financial ruin because of simular circumstances.



That was exactly his plan.

@ bellachicka

He is NOT married. Read the opening post again. He is single and had a dream of one day finding a woman who he would start a family with. Yes yes...I know he shouldn't have slept with her but who out there doesn't make mistakes....
 shandogy

Joined: 6/27/2005
Msg: 53
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Posted: 9/7/2005 11:40:09 AM
thats the problem that i have with this type of situation i feel it's like going into a car dealership and saying you dont want it but someone signs your name on the dotted line regardless and you have a lifelong bill.I take care of my kids so dont send me a bunch of hatemail but until your in a situation like that where you are completely helpless you cant understand.It's not easy being a woman in that situation but at least you know that the decision whatever it may be is yours.funny though if she wanted an aborton and he didnt no one would say that she should suck it up and have the kid.
 SICutie

Joined: 6/8/2005
Msg: 54
Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 9/7/2005 11:40:13 AM
the first post said the condom broke. now maybe it's my cynical nature but i think there wa no condom, of course i have no proof.

i lurve it how idiots cry and whine about being "forced" to pay child support. no one forced them to commit the act. responsibility is a **** isn't it? and even better is the mental giants who assume straight off the bat this girl was trying to trap him. i gotta tell ya, a broke 38 year old loser who is so mentally unstable he is considering suicide because he can't have his way is NO CATCH. priest holmes, maybe, this guy, not so much.

if it's your child, pay for it. see to it that baby has a chance and a future. it's part of him. it takes real self hate or mass amounts of stupidity to reject that
 HedonistDrifter

Joined: 7/23/2005
Msg: 55
Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 9/7/2005 11:44:05 AM
thats the problem that i have with this type of situation i feel it's like going into a car dealership and saying you dont want it but someone signs your name on the dotted line regardless and you have a lifelong bill.I take care of my kids so dont send me a bunch of hatemail but until your in a situation like that where you are completely helpless you cant understand.It's not easy being a woman in that situation but at least you know that the decision whatever it may be is yours.funny though if she wanted an aborton and he didnt no one would say that she should suck it up and have the kid.

my point exactly...nicely put..
 SICutie

Joined: 6/8/2005
Msg: 56
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Posted: 9/7/2005 11:44:30 AM
yeah brawny i read it and i understood it.

i even quoted you. you said the guy was fuked. maybe your eloquent way of saying poor **stard has to live up to his responsibility and how terrible that is.

being forced is hardly showing up and facing it like a man.


if he doesn't want to buy the car, don't go to the dealership. or maybe go to an established dealership with more experience. i don't understand all the sympathy for a grown adult running away from a baby. makes no sense
 squirrly

Joined: 6/8/2005
Msg: 57
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Posted: 9/7/2005 11:49:27 AM
interesting SI Cutie...how you have made such a harsh judgement on someone you have never met from a short paragraph describing the scenario. This debate seems to have polarised into the difference between how women see things and how men see things. Maybe I would have seen things differently if he wasn't my friend and she was instead. Their relationship was purely sexual and she knew it.....she even wrote him letters describing sex acts that she had done. She isn't little miss innocent.
 shandogy

Joined: 6/27/2005
Msg: 58
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Posted: 9/7/2005 11:49:43 AM
ok now i must say that ive seen some pretty ill informed responses but this is rediculos they both had sex so why is it just up to her?no one forced her either and if she wanted to keep a child if she got pregnant it's her responsibility to inform him of such as it is his to ask.no one gets a free ride and if thats her choice shouldnt she take the responsibility of paying for everything?why should any one male or female be forced to pay for anything financially or mentally that they didnt agree too?it pains me that we have to have these discussions both parties are responsible and if you want to take someone out of the process then take them out if he dosnt have any say so then why should he have anything to do with it.I would hope that regardless of wht happens he learns to become a good father but I dont agree with anyone being forced to do anything period.
 HedonistDrifter

Joined: 7/23/2005
Msg: 59
Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 9/7/2005 11:49:59 AM
i even quoted you. you said the guy was fuked. maybe your eloquent way of saying poor **stard has to live up to his responsibility and how terrible that is.

being forced is hardly showing up and facing it like a man.


SICutie, The guy you are putting down (Brawny) has a kid, pays his childsupport on time, takes part in his childs life, (all without a court order)...so maybe you are not as good a judge of charector as you think...Sounds like a pretty responsible guy to me...Food for thought...
 Toser

Joined: 8/31/2005
Msg: 60
Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 9/7/2005 11:54:52 AM
first off, he shouldnt be having these encounters if he doesnt want to take the responsibility afterwards....but in this case i think he should 1) get a test to make sure it is his 2) be a man and take care of it anyways.
 SICutie

Joined: 6/8/2005
Msg: 61
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Posted: 9/7/2005 11:56:59 AM
i was talking about the guy in the post. not brawny

the guy above has the right idea. though it should be expanded upon. be man, take care of the child and raise the child in a loving and encouraging way. not bytch about dollars and cents it's ridiculous
 shandogy

Joined: 6/27/2005
Msg: 62
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Posted: 9/7/2005 11:59:23 AM
ok sci cutie read my replies thuroughly the point with the dealership was this what would you do if you got a bill in the mail that you didnt agree to but still had to pay?it's a simple question everything we do in life has risk ther is no way to avoid them.bad things happen to good people look at louisiana and see that for yourself.I look at your comments the same as those who bad mouth the people who stayed at there homes some that died because of it.It's easy in hindsight to say what someone should have done but the reality of it is this some had no where to go.He thought he was preforming SAFE SEX with a booty call.Why would he prepare to have children with that woman?People have diffrent lives to not look past your own personal experiences to try to put yourself in someones shoes is a shame.
 brawnydog

Joined: 8/17/2005
Msg: 63
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:03:28 PM
Thanks Scott. I appreciate it. And damn true.

My ex is like that too. Hears or reads one thing......and by the time it get's through all of the mis-firing synopsi....it's totally whatever she wanted it to say.

She will still think that I'm a bas.turd though. Maybe if I change all the "fuks" to "intercourses".
 Pellaken

Joined: 8/21/2005
Msg: 64
Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 9/7/2005 12:05:59 PM
you cant force someone to get an aborition, that's worse the the pro lifers, its about choise.

what should he do, not have had sex, thats what he should do.
 SICutie

Joined: 6/8/2005
Msg: 65
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:06:09 PM
ok first of all getting a bill for something you didn't buy is a piss poor analogy for creating a life. i was just playing along. but to continue along those lines, he DID buy it. he needs to act responsibly now. it's more akin to buyer's remorse not being scammed.

secondly you should look at my posts regarding the hurricane victims in current events. another shytty analogy because sleeping with someone who has emotional problems, self mutilation was mentioned, then looking for sympathy because you can't act resposibly is so far away from what the good folks in new orleans have been through it's insulting and absolutely disgraceful you would compare the two.

the REAL shame is that there is going to be a child in this world who is going to feel unwanted and unloved. that man is 38 years old!! plenty old enough to take care of himself and own up to his responsibilites. i thank God daily i'm intelligent enough not to bring someone like that in my life and i discuss these things with partners. i suggest everyone who feels so sorry for this guy do the same

if i misinterpreted your post brawny, by all means correct me. what did you mean by the guy is fuked? and since when is being responsible and paying for your mistakes (lovely thing to call a child) being fuked? it's called being an adult
 Jaybo_31

Joined: 6/27/2005
Msg: 66
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:09:35 PM
He is screwed. Poor bas*ard. I'm not sure what else to say. He will be paying and paying for years to come. Expensive sex!
 HedonistDrifter

Joined: 7/23/2005
Msg: 67
Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 9/7/2005 12:10:52 PM
i was talking about the guy in the post. not brawny

Oh sorry...Guess the two quotes below VVV made me think you were being judgemental and hostile...My bad..

i even quoted you. you said the guy was fuked. maybe your eloquent way of saying poor **stard has to live up to his responsibility and how terrible that is.being forced is hardly showing up and facing it like a man.


she's too stupid to swallow a pill? are you, by chance, mentally challenged


IMO, they both made the kid, they should both have a say in the matter...Like someone else already pointed out, if he wanted the kid and she didnt he would not have a say...They share equally in the responsibility of making the child, raising the child...just seems right they share in the decision of keeping the child or not...
 Pellaken

Joined: 8/21/2005
Msg: 68
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:11:34 PM
I read this entire thread, and I'm sick!!!
not a single person has said what I did - if a girl does not want to get an aborition, how is she in the wrong? why should she be forced to get one if she does not beleive in one? Is aborition not about choise, is it not all about "your own body"? Why should a man be able to tell you what to do with your own body? why should you (thread starter) be able to tell anyone (the girl pergnant) what to do with her body? This is 2005, not the 1500's, people have freedom and do what they want to. Why is everyone so concerned about the guy here, if you have sex, no matter what, when, or how, there's a risk of pregnancy. If you dont like that, DONT HAVE SEX. Why does ANYONE feel sorry for anyone in this story, I dont, especially if the guy was trying to coerce her into getting an aborition.
 Pellaken

Joined: 8/21/2005
Msg: 69
Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 9/7/2005 12:13:00 PM
I'd also like to point out that when I was born my mother was 20 and my father was 40...
 brawnydog

Joined: 8/17/2005
Msg: 70
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:13:21 PM
Noone said that she should be forced to have one.
 Pellaken

Joined: 8/21/2005
Msg: 71
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:13:54 PM
^^^
in her first post, it makes it sound like it's her fault for not doing it when he told her to do it

edit:
---He tells her to go get the morning after pill. She doesn't get it. He finds out a couple of months later she is pregnant. He tells her to get an abortion. She doesn't.---
 forum_moderator

Joined: 1/24/2003
Msg: 72
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:14:28 PM
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 squirrly

Joined: 6/8/2005
Msg: 73
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:14:46 PM
it must be so nice to live in a perfect world where no one makes mistakes.

Would be nice if the world was like that...no one holding another hostage.

I totally agree that the child's welfare is of paramount importance. The problem is that my friend could face financial ruin and because he has been through a very bad time in his life, could end up taking his life. Therefore the child may not even know it's father.

It's fine for you ( SICutie) to denigrate him and say he's a loser, you haven't walked a mile in his shoes. You know nothing of the hardships he has faced. To him this just seems like one more nail in the coffin.

As for this nonsense of.....he could have just said no to sex. Grow up! He used a bloody condom!
 ksewell

Joined: 7/28/2005
Msg: 74
Pregnant girl threatening
Posted: 9/7/2005 12:16:47 PM
She may be biased as that is her friend...So she came here looking for advice.

if the child is his- he needs to live up to his responsibilities.

Until then- he needs to get a restraining order against her so she quits threatening and harassing him.
 SICutie

Joined: 6/8/2005
Msg: 75
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Posted: 9/7/2005 12:17:25 PM
the only true victim in all of this is the baby. the poor child is basically getting blamed for costing money and he/she never asked to be born at all.

it is indeed a sickening thread and it just goes to show the value we place on children. sad sad sad
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